Can you name any succesfull/unsuccesfull examples of regime change by the US in the last 100 years?
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Each and every Presidential election of the United States.
Well, Carter and Clinton are possibly debatable but you get the idea.
Well, Carter and Clinton are possibly debatable but you get the idea.
Those are all much smaller and less complex situations that Iraq though. I can also name Haiti which has been a complete failure.
That is no where near the same as invading a country and setting up our own government. The Soviets/Russians/all the other people of the USSR did the regime changing and establishing of new governments and social structures themselves. We had nothing to do with that.
That is still in a very very early stage, although it does seem to be going better than expected. Most of the actual nation building is being done by the UN with help from the International Security and Assistance Force. We are basically just providing bodyguards for Karzai and continuing to hunt down Taliban/Al Qaeda/destroy weapons. We haven't really taken on the warlords in any meaningful way in order to strengthen the fledgling central government. All Karzai controls is Kabul, and that is just barely.
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Not yet. Things are going bad there right now. Will probably get better again though, eventually.
Successful = subjective. I thiink Afghanistan is a success already given the progress made, though.
Just to put in prespective. Here is a sampling of the countries that most people have actually heard of where the United Nations is currently engaged or very recently have left after nation building.
Cambodia (UN Recievership is over and new elected government is in place, war crimes triles beginning for former Khmer Rouge)
East Timor (UN has handed over power to new democratic local government, remains in force for various missions)
Bosnia Herzevogina (UN built multi-ethnic government is now in control, much rebuilding must continue)
Albania (UN efforts to stabilize government still ongoing)
Kosovo (UN efforts to stabilize government still ongoing, Kosovos status is still not resolved)
Afghanistan (UN leading efforts to build Afghan government and Civil Society)
At any one time something like 40-50,000 UN peacekeeprs are deployed worldwide. Less than 1000 of those are Americans.
US maintains large presence in NATO forces in Bosnia, US forces in Afghanistan, etc.
I have yet to see an example of succesfull regime change in a comparable or even close to the situation in Iraq. Answer/Argument, it is all worthwile discussion.
I am saying no such thing. I am far far from an isolationist, and if I gave that impression please be aware that I was not saying that in any way. I believe engagement, power projection, and powerful alliances are key to our security. I am also trying to point out that this concept of removing a government and setting up your own is not one that has historically worked out well when done unilaterally.
Germany and Japan were over thirty years ago. What exactly is the population of Grenanda again??
Haiti is a mess maybe even worse off than before we intervened, although I really don't think that has anything to do with the regime change. We didn't change the regime in the USSR, and Afghanistan is yet to be decided. It could turn into a free fire zone in a minute.
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When did we succesfully change the regime in Iran?? We brought the Shah into power, supported him as he set up his pro US government and then watched it blow up in our faces with disastrous results when we found out we really had no idea what was going on??
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