Can you marry a religious person?

[Lonbjerg]

I'd say that my faith is in the reliability of our senses. And we can't prove positively that our senses are reliable because the only way we could do that is by using those same senses, so we just have to have faith in them.

Scientific findings, on the other hand, are not something you should have faith in. You don't accept on faith that whatever experiment was conducted properly, you have to actually consider whether the scientists performing the experiment did it right. The only faith involved, assuming you accept that the experiment was conducted properly, is in the idea that a properly conducted experiment is capable of producing results that make sense.

I don't have "faith" in the non-existence of God, I just have faith in my senses that, by my own personal experience, show no evidence of God's existence. And because I believe in the reliability of my senses, therefore I do not and cannot believe in God.

The absence of faith is not a faith 😉

 

[JM Aggie08]

Yes, because I do not overgeneralize.

 

[PieIsAwesome]

Science is belief supported by evidence.

Faith is belief in the absence of evidence.

Not even comparable. The first is rational, the second is idiotic.


As for spiritual experiences, superstition has hijacked the word. People have spiritual experiences, but they are no evidence of anything supernatural. Superstition is an obstacle to understanding these experiences. See what Dr. Sam Harris has to say on spirituality.

 

[Lonbjerg]

Science is belief supported by evidence.

Faith is belief in the absence of evidence.

Not even comparable. The first is rational, the second is idiotic.


As for spiritual experiences, superstition has hijacked the word. People have spiritual experiences, but they are no evidence of anything supernatural. Superstition is an obstacle to understanding these experiences. See what Dr. Sam Harris has to say on spirituality.

Like this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0B-cUSX57Q

😉

 

[HAL9000]

No I am not...whackjobs better stay the fuck clear of me...

Fuck you.

I'd rather have a mental health condition than be a prejudiced moron.

From a "whackjob"

 

[Hugo Drax]

I probably would not.
But I would have sex with them.

Sex would suck because for religious people. Sex is evil, its just a duty for childbirth. So sex cannot be enjoyable its only for the sole purpose of procreation.

 

[brandonb]

Marry? Maybe! Date, yes!

If they are that hardcore, it means they believe in something. And aren't the typical sheep (or lemming if thats what you want to call them) who want to emulate Paris Hilton, Snooki, or some other retard in the media. That means something to me.

But since I haven't ever experienced it, I'm not sure how long it would last or if it would end up in Marriage. But just because someone is passionate about something doesn't mean they are bad. I'd rather have them passionate about that, than some other things in life. (Getting high, drunk, etc.)

 

[Lonbjerg]

Fuck you.

I'd rather have a mental health condition than be a prejudiced moron.

From a "whackjob"

You opinion holds no value as your cogentive powers are infected and thus operating falsely.

Your superstion is no different than any other superstion, but your mental defect makes you think that it(and thus) your are special.

What superstion did your parents choose to indoctrinate you with? 🙂

PS. Thanks for the offer of a fuck...but I am not gay...and isn't that kind of action agsint your superstiotion?
And I love your version of the values of your superstion...even if it i in TOTAL oppostion to the values you claim to have.

Is being false nice? 🙂

 

[brandonb]

You opinion holds no value as your cogentive powers are infected and thus operating falsely.

Your superstion is no different than any other superstion, but your mental defect makes you think that it(and thus) your are special.

What superstion did your parents choose to indoctrinate you with? 🙂

Stop posting please.

 

[HAL9000]

You opinion holds no value as your cogentive powers are infected and thus operating falsely.

My particular brand of mental health issue does not affect cognition.

Your superstion is no different than any other superstion, but your mental defect makes you think that it(and thus) your are special.

I'm not special, I'm not superstitious and you spelt you're wrong.

What superstion did your parents choose to indoctrinate you with? 🙂

I'm an atheist and was raised agnostic.

 

[HAL9000]

PS. Thanks for the offer of a fuck...but I am not gay...and isn't that kind of action agsint your superstiotion?
And I love your version of the values of your superstion...even if it i in TOTAL oppostion to the values you claim to have.

Is being false nice? 🙂

I wasn't offering to fuck you, I was saying fuck you as an expletive.

What is this superstition you keep referring to.

Being false? What?

 

[SP33Demon]

Then you understand nothin when you think the religious defination of faith encompasses all definations of faith.

Like I said...you are religious...and, as always, religious people are full of lies, fallacies and rape of terms and language.

Nice that you confirm my view of religiou people being that they suffer from mental defects that disallocate them from reality.

Now run off into you fairytale world...and leave the real world to the people that don't suffer from superstition...because your lies are the same old boring horseshite every religious moron spewes out 🙂

More hate for spirituality. And keep saying I'm "religious" if it makes you feel better. Your intolerance reminds me of Germany in WWII. Keep spreading the hate and I will continue to love you for who you are, a troubled person who needs to tear others down to feel good about themselves.

 

[kage69]

I could marry a spiritual person, sure (and did!) but a really religious southern baptist or really "involved" Mormon or scientologist? Hell no.

Religious women for the most part are boring prudes, and you know those kids will be on the fast track for indoctrination. I'll take the yoga instructor who studies Zen Buddhism and doesn't care about forcing her beliefs on others.

 

[Hugo Drax]

I could marry a spiritual person, sure (and did!) but a really religious southern baptist or really "involved" Mormon or scientologist? Hell no.

Religious women for the most part are boring prudes, and you know those kids will be on the fast track for indoctrination. I'll take the yoga instructor who studies Zen Buddhism and doesn't care about forcing her beliefs on others.

Why do you think those Religous folks have like 10+ kids.

Cause the only time the Husband gets access to intercourse activities is for the purpose of childbearing.

 

[SP33Demon]

I'd say that my faith is in the reliability of our senses. And we can't prove positively that our senses are reliable because the only way we could do that is by using those same senses, so we just have to have faith in them.

And as a result, a spiritual (metaphysical) realm could exist which is beyond our senses.

 

[SP33Demon]

I could marry a spiritual person, sure (and did!) but a really religious southern baptist or really "involved" Mormon or scientologist? Hell no.

Religious women for the most part are boring prudes, and you know those kids will be on the fast track for indoctrination. I'll take the yoga instructor who studies Zen Buddhism and doesn't care about forcing her beliefs on others.

Agreed, there is a distinct difference between spirituality and religion. You can accept that a higher being exists just as the great minds of history such as Descartes, Galileo, Kepler, Copernicus, Pascal, Newton, Boyle, Mendel, Kelvin, Planck, and Einstein did. Hell Einstein even believed in religion.

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." and "I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know his thoughts. The rest are details. (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, 2000 p.202)"

How many of you worship Einstein? How many of you worship science? Because many of the creators of modern science believed in a higher being.

 

[Lonbjerg]

Stop posting please.

Use your brain please...

 

[Lonbjerg]

More hate for spirituality. And keep saying I'm "religious" if it makes you feel better. Your intolerance reminds me of Germany in WWII. Keep spreading the hate and I will continue to love you for who you are, a troubled person who needs to tear others down to feel good about themselves.

More FUD from a religious nutter *shurgs*

 

[Lonbjerg]

And as a result, a spiritual (metaphysical) realm could exist which is beyond our senses.

My invisble blue penguin says you are wrong...

 

[AstroManLuca]

And as a result, a spiritual (metaphysical) realm could exist which is beyond our senses.

Yes, it could. ANYTHING could. But it would be impossible to ever know anything about some sort of metaphysical realm because, by definition, we can't perceive it.

Therefore, in my opinion, it's not even worth hypothesizing about it. To me, the question "what if God is real?" is no more interesting than the question, "what if Star Wars was real?"

 

[Lonbjerg]

How many of you worship Einstein? How many of you worship science? Because many of the creators of modern science believed in a higher being.

I have seen that idocracy before.
You should watch this..thus you are correct and won't spread that lie again...right? 😉

http://www.haydenplanetarium.org/tyson/read/2005/11/01/the-perimeter-of-ignorance

It's called "god of gaps"..and only religious nutters try to use that excuse.

But nice fallacy of appeal to authority that horribly backfired...

 

[AstroManLuca]

Agreed, there is a distinct difference between spirituality and religion. You can accept that a higher being exists just as the great minds of history such as Descartes, Galileo, Kepler, Copernicus, Pascal, Newton, Boyle, Mendel, Kelvin, Planck, and Einstein did. Hell Einstein even believed in religion.



How many of you worship Einstein? How many of you worship science? Because many of the creators of modern science believed in a higher being.

Do you actually think Einstein believed in God because he mentioned God in the context of thought experiments?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Albert_Einstein#Personal_God_and_the_afterlife

Einstein basically shared the same belief system that I and many others have - that a personal God is an extremely farfetched notion, but also that there is no evidence that God DOESN'T exist, and that it's pretty brash for anyone to claim they know for sure that God does or does not exist.

 

[pelov]

How many of you worship Einstein? How many of you worship science? Because many of the creators of modern science believed in a higher being.

Interchangeably. Einstein believed that scientific exploration and God were one in the same, basically. To get closer to God is to find out how everything works, thus science was a way of achieving that. A really shitty analogy would be prayer, but, again, that would be a very shitty analogy.

Also, the usage of the word "worship" makes the rest of your statement bereft of meaning due to misinterpretation. You don't "worship" science and if you do you're doing it wrong.

 

[mk]

Agreed, there is a distinct difference between spirituality and religion. You can accept that a higher being exists just as the great minds of history such as Descartes, Galileo, Kepler, Copernicus, Pascal, Newton, Boyle, Mendel, Kelvin, Planck, and Einstein did.

Appeal to inappropriate authority.

Hell Einstein even believed in religion.

No, he didn't.

It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Albert_Einstein#cite_note-6

How many of you worship Einstein? How many of you worship science? Because many of the creators of modern science believed in a higher being.

Who worships Einstein? Or science? Seriously? If anything believing in a creator god was in many cases a hindrance for some of the luminaries in the history of science e.g. Isaac Newton. When they were confronted with something they couldn't understand they invoked "God did it" and stopped investigating.

 

[Aikouka]

You have to believe in something.
Even if you are a hardcore scientist, you still have to believe in the findings of other scientists.
Even if you test something, you have to believe your apparatus and results are accurate.

Faith/belief is a broad concept.

There's a difference between "having faith" in something tangible and something intangible. You do realize that even as "a hardcore scientist", I can simply read the findings of the other scientists. Can I go play ding-dong-ditch with God's doorbell to see if Alannis Morisette answers?

Let me give you an even better idea. If I say that I have faith in my friend that he will do something. I am not basing this faith off of nothing. I am basing it off of everything that has occurred in the past with said friend. I have empirical evidence to back my claim. I still cannot guarantee that it will happen, which is why the word "faith" is used.

Faith in God is also known as "blind faith" for a reason.