Can you guess the largest five Federal government departments by employee count?

[bamacre]

What do 5 Norwegians have to do with republican hypocrisy?

Nothing, I suppose. :\

 

[Scotteq]

..Must have their reasons: http://www.bls.gov/oco/cg/cgs041.htm


Reason: The US Department of Labor counts the USPS (and the actual Military, as opposed to civilians who work for whichever military agency) separately.


Nice to have a nice, non partisan discussion with respectful people, though.

Admit you just got wrecked, and move on.

Please see the above. I said there must be a reason for leaving off the Post Office, and got attacked for it.

The issue I have is people's knee jerk reactions that anyone daring to question them is automatically some right wing lunatic.

But in the spirit of this forum: Thank You Very Much for being so stupid as to miss the point entirely.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

It's a government agency, however the bulk of it's funds comes from the service it provides, not from the general fund.

In this context it makes more sense to exclude it simply because if funding is an issue it isn't comparable on a per employee basis. Well, that's how I see it. s

I can't read the link but does it say 5 largest agencies by tax dollars spent on it or in terms of employees?
Like it or not, the post office is a governmental agency. And as of late, they are taking in Federal tax dollars because they can't surrive without them.

The United States Postal Service (USPS) is an independent agency of the United States government, organized as an "independent establishment of the executive branch", responsible for providing postal service in the United States. It is one of the few government agencies explicitly authorized by the United States Constitution.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service

 

[dca221]

Interesting.

It would be more interesting to see how much each agency spends. While the employee number is an indicator, throw in outsourcing and a bunch of contracts, and suddenly you could be looking at a totally different and larger number

Off memory, VA spends about $100B, DoD spends about $700B, 1:7 ratio (employees show 205K for VA and 611 for DoD, 1:3 ratio)

 

[xj0hnx]

What do 5 Norwegians have to do with republican hypocrisy?

Obama's Norwegian? What has your messiah done to shrink it? Oh that's right ...nothing. Bush might as well have been (D) Bush, just with the warfare state instead of the welfare state.

 

[JockoJohnson]

Interesting.

It would be more interesting to see how much each agency spends. While the employee number is an indicator, throw in outsourcing and a bunch of contracts, and suddenly you could be looking at a totally different and larger number

Off memory, VA spends about $100B, DoD spends about $700B, 1:7 ratio (employees show 205K for VA and 611 for DoD, 1:3 ratio)

Good point.

And for those that think the USPS is not a government agency, explain how they are not allowed to act like a private company? Every time a post office mentions that they need to close for budgetary reasons, there is a huge uproar and the gov't forces them to keep the office open.

 

[Thump553]

Frankly some of those numbers seem low to me, esp. for the DoD. I'm guessing they exclude contract personnel, etc? Are they excluding the members of the services in the DoD numbers-don't we have 130-140K servicemen just in Afganistan alone?

The order of size of the agencies is about what I expected, though.

 

[xj0hnx]

Frankly some of those numbers seem low to me, esp. for the DoD. I'm guessing they exclude contract personnel, etc? Are they excluding the members of the services in the DoD numbers-don't we have 130-140K servicemen just in Afganistan alone?

The order of size of the agencies is about what I expected, though.

Could also be that they're three years old?

 

[Scotteq]

Frankly some of those numbers seem low to me, esp. for the DoD. I'm guessing they exclude contract personnel, etc? Are they excluding the members of the services in the DoD numbers-don't we have 130-140K servicemen just in Afganistan alone?

The order of size of the agencies is about what I expected, though.

The numbers exclude Uniformed members of the Armed Forces, and the Post Office.

 

[bamacre]

Obama's Norwegian? What has your messiah done to shrink it? Oh that's right ...nothing. Bush might as well have been (D) Bush, just with the warfare state instead of the welfare state.

Nope, he was fully in favor of the welfare state, too. Medicare D.

 

[werepossum]

Interesting.

It would be more interesting to see how much each agency spends. While the employee number is an indicator, throw in outsourcing and a bunch of contracts, and suddenly you could be looking at a totally different and larger number

Off memory, VA spends about $100B, DoD spends about $700B, 1:7 ratio (employees show 205K for VA and 611 for DoD, 1:3 ratio)

Very good point.

Personally I would also include the Post Office, as it is a government agency and is at least partly an enforced government monopoly. While that money is not being disbursed directly from the budget, it is money that government takes in and then spends.

 

[soundforbjt]

Interesting.

It would be more interesting to see how much each agency spends. While the employee number is an indicator, throw in outsourcing and a bunch of contracts, and suddenly you could be looking at a totally different and larger number

Off memory, VA spends about $100B, DoD spends about $700B, 1:7 ratio (employees show 205K for VA and 611 for DoD, 1:3 ratio)

Don't forget all the outsourcing and contracts for DOD and you're ratio there is out the window!

 

[her209]

Bump for budget talks.

 

[Phokus]

Please see the above. I said there must be a reason for leaving off the Post Office, and got attacked for it.

The issue I have is people's knee jerk reactions that anyone daring to question them is automatically some right wing lunatic.

But in the spirit of this forum: Thank You Very Much for being so stupid as to miss the point entirely.

You got attacked for it because the overwhelming majority can 'read between the lines'.

Bump for budget talks.

Hah, didn't notice this was a necro'd thread

 

[Scotteq]

You got attacked for it because the overwhelming majority can 'read between the lines'.

If by "read between the lines" you mean "anyone who disagrees or dares to question what's presented or why is automatically some right wing lunatic in the eyes of the partisan fucktards who populate this message board", then I guess you're right...


Nice Necro...