Can you be an atheist and not believe in evolution?

[acheron]

Originally posted by: DingDingDao

Originally posted by: shocksyde
What about Agnostics?

I'd say you have to be pretty unsure about creationism vs evolution as well here. If you have a definite belief about creationism or evolution, I'd say you were not agnostic.

wut.

How does belief or lack of belief in God translate to evolution/creationism? I mean, if you belief in creationism, then you'd probably have to believe in a creator, but the inverse isn't at all true. Maybe God exists but "allows" evolution, or whatever. There are plenty of scientists who are perfectly comfortable with the coexistence of evolution and religion, so certainly evolution and agnosticism shouldn't be a problem.

 

[sourceninja]

I purpose that there is no god and evolution is wrong.

We just randomly popped into being as a matter of chance. Everything just appeared exactly how it is now. How that happened, I have no clue. I do know it probably wasn't a being.


See it's possible.

 

[RaiderJ]

I don't see creationism and evolution as mutually exclusive..... never understood why God or a God could have done the initial creation and then let evolution take its course. But then, my religious beliefs don't really fall under any organized church's teaching. I do like how the Catholics aren't nearly as anti-science as the rest of the organizations, but they have weirdness just like the rest of them.

I figure neither "theory" is correct, but the actual truth is way more complex (and interesting).

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: MrWizzard

Originally posted by: torpid
Of course. You can be anything and not believe in evolution. All it takes to deny the principles of evolution is a basic disregard for science.

You know evolution is a theory not science until we can fully reproduce it. So not really. But I didn't come here to argue that.

Something tells me that you're a bit unclear on the concept of science.

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: Kadarin

Originally posted by: MrWizzard

Originally posted by: torpid
Of course. You can be anything and not believe in evolution. All it takes to deny the principles of evolution is a basic disregard for science.

You know evolution is a theory not science until we can fully reproduce it. So not really. But I didn't come here to argue that.

Something tells me that you're a bit unclear on the concept of science.

And the fact that we've seen evolution actually occur within our lifetime. Hell, our own species has evolved. Homo sapiens sapiens anyone?

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: sourceninja
I purpose that there is no god and evolution is wrong.

We just randomly popped into being as a matter of chance. Everything just appeared exactly how it is now. How that happened, I have no clue. I do know it probably wasn't a being.


See it's possible.

Yes, but do you actually believe in that?

 

[oogabooga]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: sourceninja
I purpose that there is no god and evolution is wrong.

We just randomly popped into being as a matter of chance. Everything just appeared exactly how it is now. How that happened, I have no clue. I do know it probably wasn't a being.


See it's possible.

Yes, but do you actually believe in that?

Probably not, but then again the question was could you.

I think the only thing an atheist is not able to "believe" in is creation/intelligent design. I guess in theory they could try to reconcile it by saying "God" is not the creator/designer and he is really some bored punk from a more advanced civilization doing a science project or something. It would be sort odd though.

I dunno why Atheism and Evolution would be linked, though to be honest I'm not sure what an Atheist believes for creation/evolution. Maybe they just don't care and don't believe in anything?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: oogabooga

I dunno why Atheism and Evolution would be linked, though to be honest I'm not sure what an Atheist believes for creation/evolution. Maybe they just don't care and don't believe in anything?

There are no beliefs one must necessarily hold to be an atheist. Atheism is about what belief(s) you do not hold. You cannot derive positive beliefs from the absence of certain other beliefs.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: MrWizzard

Originally posted by: torpid
Of course. You can be anything and not believe in evolution. All it takes to deny the principles of evolution is a basic disregard for science.

You know evolution is a theory not science until we can fully reproduce it. So not really. But I didn't come here to argue that.

Your ignorance is boundless. Every domestic animal and a good portion of the wild are products of human applied evolution.

 

[MrWizzard]

Originally posted by: WHAMPOM

Originally posted by: MrWizzard

Originally posted by: torpid
Of course. You can be anything and not believe in evolution. All it takes to deny the principles of evolution is a basic disregard for science.

You know evolution is a theory not science until we can fully reproduce it. So not really. But I didn't come here to argue that.

Your ignorance is boundless. Every domestic animal and a good portion of the wild are products of human applied evolution.

Great point.

 

[EGGO]

Originally posted by: MrWizzard

Originally posted by: torpid
Of course. You can be anything and not believe in evolution. All it takes to deny the principles of evolution is a basic disregard for science.

You know evolution is a theory not science until we can fully reproduce it. So not really. But I didn't come here to argue that.

Have you looked at ANY botany or even what we've been doing to pets for hundreds of years?

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: MrWizzard

Originally posted by: torpid
Of course. You can be anything and not believe in evolution. All it takes to deny the principles of evolution is a basic disregard for science.

You know evolution is a theory not science until we can fully reproduce it. So not really. But I didn't come here to argue that.

/facepalm

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: MrWizzard

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: MrWizzard

Originally posted by: torpid
Of course. You can be anything and not believe in evolution. All it takes to deny the principles of evolution is a basic disregard for science.

You know evolution is a theory not science until we can fully reproduce it. So not really. But I didn't come here to argue that.

/facepalm

Be more ignorant. Please.

I see my point was missed, but it's ok arguing things on the interwebs is a moot point.

/facepalm

 

[SlitheryDee]

I don't think atheism is all that dependent on a theory of origin. What's to stop an atheist from not believing evolution just because they think the idea seems far-fetched? They don't have to replace that belief with something else. "I don't know" is always a valid option.

 

[thecrecarc]

Technically, atheism is merely the lack of theism, the belief in god. So it could happen, as belief in science and evolution in not a requirement for lack of belief in a god.

However, in practice it is rare as most atheists are that because of their views and trust in science and natural laws. That, combined with the fact that evolution is the preeminent scientific biological theory for speciation, and has been shown and proven many times, makes it unlikely that an atheist does not believe in evolution.

 

[Andrew1990]

Im an atheist and I dont believe in evolution.


Man should not worry about the past, but concentrate on the future.

 

[Crono]

I'm not an atheist, but I believe in evolution.
Partly, at least. I believe in the parts in parts of the modern evolutionary theory that can be tested and observed. If you can't test and/or observe it, it's not science, it's history or something else.

 

[thecrecarc]

Originally posted by: Andrew1990
Im an atheist and I dont believe in evolution.


Man should not worry about the past, but concentrate on the future.

Yes, because there is absolutely nothing you can learn from the past, and studying history is a complete waste of time with absolutely no benefit.

 

[Andrew1990]

Originally posted by: thecrecarc

Originally posted by: Andrew1990
Im an atheist and I dont believe in evolution.


Man should not worry about the past, but concentrate on the future.

Yes, because there is absolutely nothing you can learn from the past, and studying history is a complete waste of time with absolutely no benefit.

No, history in itself is very important to know but something like this in which no one really knows what happened isnt too important in my eyes.

 

[SonnyDaze]

You have to believe something....


I believe I'll have another beer.

 

[thecrecarc]

Originally posted by: Andrew1990

Originally posted by: thecrecarc

Originally posted by: Andrew1990
Im an atheist and I dont believe in evolution.


Man should not worry about the past, but concentrate on the future.

Yes, because there is absolutely nothing you can learn from the past, and studying history is a complete waste of time with absolutely no benefit.

No, history in itself is very important to know but something like this in which no one really knows what happened isnt too important in my eyes.

Despite the fact that much of modern biology is based on it, including medicine, gene therapy, antibiotic resistance etc.? Seriously?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: MrWizzard

Originally posted by: torpid
Of course. You can be anything and not believe in evolution. All it takes to deny the principles of evolution is a basic disregard for science.

You know evolution is a theory not science until we can fully reproduce it. So not really. But I didn't come here to argue that.

I think you just proved torpid's point.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Andrew1990

Originally posted by: thecrecarc

Originally posted by: Andrew1990
Im an atheist and I dont believe in evolution.


Man should not worry about the past, but concentrate on the future.

Yes, because there is absolutely nothing you can learn from the past, and studying history is a complete waste of time with absolutely no benefit.

No, history in itself is very important to know but something like this in which no one really knows what happened isnt too important in my eyes.

I'd say you're in worse shape than MrWizzard.