Can we stop with all the FDNY and NYPD tributes already!?!

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Dedpuhl

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<< You're missing the whole point. We all know that the NYFD and NYPD members are ALL heros and were doing their jobs to save lives. But we DO NOT need constant reinforcement of that idea on a continual basis. >>



Agreed.
 

jbod

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Also..
if you've ever been down by the WTC site, whenever a body is found, it is given a heroes honor guard. The flag is draped over the body, and it is escorted out of the site. Work stops as everyone pays their respect.

It does not matter if it was a member of the services, or an employee. Its all the same respect.

Still breaks our hearts here in NYC.

I lost a friend, he was in tower 1, around the 90th floor, with Cantor Fitzgerald.
We still do not know what happened to his body. His family does not have anything to bury.






:(


 

ViRGE

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<< You're missing the whole point. We all know that the NYFD and NYPD members are ALL heros and were doing their jobs to save lives. But we DO NOT need constant reinforcement of that idea on a continual basis. >>



Agreed.
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Agreed.
 

Rudee

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<< Also..
if you've ever been down by the WTC site, whenever a body is found, it is given a heroes honor guard. The flag is draped over the body, and it is escorted out of the site. Work stops as everyone pays their respect.

It does not matter if it was a member of the services, or an employee. Its all the same respect.

Still breaks our hearts here in NYC.

I lost a friend, he was in tower 1, around the 90th floor, with Cantor Fitzgerald.
We still do not know what happened to his body. His family does not have anything to bury.
:(
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Hypothetically speaking, what if the hijacked aircraft impacted a building consisting of several thousand "blue collar" workers. i.e. plumbers, pipe-fitters, construction workers, etc; and not a single police officer or firefighter was killed. Do you actually think that this unglamorous type of blue collar existance would warrant similar respect, mourning, celebrity, and sense of loss from the common American? Hell no! We put these police officers and fire fighters on pedestals, whereas the common man would certainly not garnish the same respect despite the equal loss of life.




 

jbod

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I am not missing the point. The point is that NYPD/FD are still, as we speak, digging in the pile of OBL's excrement while all of us are sitting here debating this issue. If you don't have compassion for that then you are sad and fail to see the importance of the comercials, tributes, and ceremonies.

These things are to remind us of what is ahead in the future not what has happened in the past. If we forget what this means to us, then we are goners.
 

Goldfish

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<< You want some? Bring it...

I live in SC by the way...
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FAITH IN HUMANITY WANING. Why are you going to challenge someone to a fight on the Internet?
 

jbod

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It was a joke, do you seriously think I would challenge someone to a duel on the Internet?

*joke alert*
*joker alert*
 

aphex

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<< yanno.. i noticed the further away you get from New York and Washington DC, the less people care <<

Not true for down here in South Florida.. Well, granted a large group of peeple down here are originally from the area (myself included), but there are american flags EVERYWHERE down here.. Pretty much on every other car, on windows, all over the place... Alot of Remember 9/11 stuff too...
 

jbod

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<< I still find it kinda sad that all anyone hears about is the 400 or so rescuers that died and nothing about the thousands that died in the buildings. >>





For all...

 

scm518

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Should we cancel veterans day then? - I mean the veterans that can celebrate didn't die and the ones that did were just doing their jobs. sounds a little retarted huh? I have seen enough bodies found at the site so far - and the local firehouse near my office lost 7 of 13 firefighters -- I am sure the fdny and nypd tributes will slowly fade away, but people should just deal with them as they watch the huskers lose.
 

jbod

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I am sure the fdny and nypd tributes will slowly fade away, but people should just deal with them as they watch the huskers lose.

heheheh!
 

Gulzakar

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If it bothers you, do what I do and just ignore it... No more American Flags thrown around (thank god). It's pretty sad when a tragic event has to happen for people to come together. I actually had someone scoff at me when I chose not to put a sticker on my car :) It's already full of cluttered stickers, why do I want more? ;)
 

T2T III

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I think the tributes are fine. I don't feel that they are overplaying the the recognition, but, maybe I'm tuning some of it out. BTW, I live within 20 miles of the Pentagon, so my area has featured quite a bit of news on events of September.

However, what does bother me is some firefighter from out in the sticks wearing a jacket displaying a logo from his own FD with a FDNY baseball cap. If he's paying tribute to firefighters of NY who lost their lives, then I'm fine with that. However, if he's wearing the cap so people recognize him, then this is not cool. I saw this while I was in S.C. during the holidays.
 

NakaNaka

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I live in Manhattan and my school is 4 blocks from the WTC so you can't accuse me of not being close. I watched people jump from the WTC and get evacuated and everything. I think the tributes are overplayed. Yes, people died and its horrible and we will never forget what happened or the NYPD, FDNY or anyone who died or helped save people that day. But the fact is we don't need tributes every two seconds.
 

fastcobra

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Oct 12, 1999
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Word,
enough already,
just seems like the FD and PD are looking for glorification. Sorry for your loss, but there are more important things than fdny or nypd.
Enough already....!!!!!!!!!!
 

tim0thy

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naka, you go to sty?

as for being close. i work across the street from WTC, so seeing people jumping out, pieces of body, and running my ass away from the cloud of whatevers after the building crash will always be with me. but watching the tv tonight with there were too many references to 9/11 that is making me cringe. yes, what happened is a tradgedy, i've seen people die with my own eyes, and it has haunted me for quite a bit.

i too, am tired of the media coverage. we will not forget, just stop cramming it down our throats.
 

Sepen

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<< <<Good to see people like Madrat weren't there.>>

Gee wiz, maybe the first hundred freakin' thousand times people were sincere. Last h.s. basketball game I went to (last weekend) where they saluted the firefighters it was pretty obvious that people are numb to the cause. I can definitely tell you right now that I cannot pay any more respect to the NYPD/FDNY. Enough is enough. We all roll out of bed every day knowing that leaving our house is dangerous. We leave because life moves on. Its not uncaring to leave your family to go to work, especially knowing that for any given reason on this day one of you may not make it to tomorrow. Its not because we don't care, its because we need to move on with our lives. Now its time for them to move on.
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Why don't you move on and let the rest of us with a heart still mourn. You would feel so differently if it were one of your own. You are clueless.
 

Sepen

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<< You're missing the whole point. We all know that the NYFD and NYPD members are ALL heros and were doing their jobs to save lives. But we DO NOT need constant reinforcement of that idea on a continual basis. >>



You are in NC, how could this possibly bother? You must really spend to much time in front of the TV.
 

Hallzy

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Look no one is denying that the events on 9/11 were the most awful act of terrorism in history. and many people died. I agree that the Police and Fire Dept went above and beyond. But seriously people the horse is dead quit flogging it...
 

Ryan

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<< I think that what MadRat is trying to say is that the media and others are taking this tragedy a bit too far. I can remember everyone jumping down Charolette Church's back b/c she said something against the NYFD. I mean, she basically said that she did see why NYFD members were coming over to England and handing out awards at banquets and stuff. And I agree, WTF do they have to do with English awards ceremonies? But of course Americans bashed her for that.

What MadRat is saying is that the media has pushed pictures, footage, audio, video of the NYFD till people can't take it anymore. You know how people were all upset when Princess Diana died. And everyone was upset for the first couple of weeks, then people started getting tired of it after the upteenth time they showed it on TV? And then the little porcelan dolls and the TV specials and made for TV movies? There's only but so much that people can take of a tragedy. Some people don't want to be reminded of it day after day after day. I'm sorry for the losses that occurred, and lives forever changed, but I DO NOT care to see every function in the US made out to be a memorial to fire and police officers. They were just doing their job. They do their jobs to save lives, not to be plastered on the TV 24-7. What about all of the fire and police officers that died before 9-11? They get jack squat.

It's kind of how I'm tired of hearing God Bless America and seeing flags everywhere I turn. We've always had an American flag outside our home (even before 9-11), but now it's a big fad to have flags plastered all over the place and sing GBA on a whim.
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Damn straight!
 

Elledan

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<< naka, you go to sty?

as for being close. i work across the street from WTC, so seeing people jumping out, pieces of body, and running my ass away from the cloud of whatevers after the building crash will always be with me. but watching the tv tonight with there were too many references to 9/11 that is making me cringe. yes, what happened is a tradgedy, i've seen people die with my own eyes, and it has haunted me for quite a bit.

i too, am tired of the media coverage. we will not forget, just stop cramming it down our throats.
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Well said.
 

NFS4

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Oct 9, 1999
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<< You're missing the whole point. We all know that the NYFD and NYPD members are ALL heros and were doing their jobs to save lives. But we DO NOT need constant reinforcement of that idea on a continual basis. >>



You are in NC, how could this possibly bother? You must really spend to much time in front of the TV.
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WTH does living in NC have to do with anything. What kind of HOLIER THAN THOU attitude is that? People here in NC are affected by this as well. My roommate's Uncle works for the Pentagon. He was on his way to the Pentagon on 9-11 to do a training seminar. He was late to work, and the plane crashed in the same section of the Pentagon that he was going to. 20 of his friends/co-workers were killed.

But that probably doesn't matter to you b/c it wasn't in NYC:disgust:

You can't flip the channel without seeing NYFD or NYPD hamming up something else. Heck, they've even got radio spots down here.
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
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i'm w/ nfs4 and madrat on this one.

when you think about how many NYPD and FDNY members are being flown all over the country and even to england, you have to wonder who is staying in NY to actually do their jobs.

Enough is ENOUGH already. you can pay tribute to 9/11, to WTC, to all the people that died and to the NYPD FDNY but does a NY Policeman or Fireman have to be at everyone of their functions?