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Lifer
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Originally posted by: LunarRay
I rather expect CAD's reason for starting the thread has been realized. He, I don't think, expected a solution to result from this thread alone. I think he figured another 'Bitch Bin' thread could be used to allow folks to come together in a common objective and thereby resolve their own individual issues and become more civil toward each other. With few exceptions it has succeeded. The flames have diminished and folks who heretofor would lash out at first opportunity are a lot more tolerant or considerate.
Every twice in awhile another village 'person' pushes the right button but, on the whole there is a much better environment. Gee I miss reading the Flame wars.. Just kidding.. maybe :D
:beer:

CkG
 

Evadman

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I don't usually post in this forum, so I don't know about you, but I am perfect.
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: Evadman
I don't usually post in this forum, so I don't know about you, but I am perfect.
<-- bows to the almighty Evadman

:p

I vote we raise the standard used to determine perfection... at least so there are some imperfect folks around. It is hardly note worthy to find a millionaire living in BelAire,CA.
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: Evadman
I don't usually post in this forum, so I don't know about you, but I am perfect.
<-- bows to the almighty Evadman

:p
/me gives Insane3D a cookie :)

 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Evadman
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: Evadman
I don't usually post in this forum, so I don't know about you, but I am perfect.
<-- bows to the almighty Evadman

:p
/me gives Insane3D a cookie :)
You don't have time to bake cookies - now get back in the garage and build that bike/buggy/go-cart thing...or build another cruncher;)

CkG

**note - CKG doesn't bow to Evadman:p
 

phillyTIM

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wow, this thread is falling down...it's no longer a STICKY...i guess it's run its course :) with no real resolution, but good that alot of people got things off their chest
 

Moonbeam

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with no real resolution
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How was a fix going to be possible? The problem is always with the other guy, not with ourselves. How do you make the other guy change, especially when he's right like myself? :D
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
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How was a fix going to be possible? The problem is always with the other guy, not with ourselves. How do you make the other guy change, especially when he's right like myself? :D
You find an alternative person that every one can blame everthing on thus everyone but one is right. So all we need is to find the 'scape goat'... :D I know... we'll say everything that happens bad is Reagan's fault..

 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: LunarRay
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
with no real resolution
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How was a fix going to be possible? The problem is always with the other guy, not with ourselves. How do you make the other guy change, especially when he's right like myself? :D
You find an alternative person that every one can blame everthing on thus everyone but one is right. So all we need is to find the 'scape goat'... :D I know... we'll say everything that happens bad is Reagan's fault..
I thought it was 'they' and 'them'.

 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: LunarRay
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
with no real resolution
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How was a fix going to be possible? The problem is always with the other guy, not with ourselves. How do you make the other guy change, especially when he's right like myself? :D
You find an alternative person that every one can blame everthing on thus everyone but one is right. So all we need is to find the 'scape goat'... :D I know... we'll say everything that happens bad is Reagan's fault..
I thought it was 'they' and 'them'.
Yeah but, pseudo they and thems...:) alright your right and I'm Reagan...

 

DealMonkey

Lifer
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Originally posted by: LunarRay
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: LunarRay
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
with no real resolution
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How was a fix going to be possible? The problem is always with the other guy, not with ourselves. How do you make the other guy change, especially when he's right like myself? :D
You find an alternative person that every one can blame everthing on thus everyone but one is right. So all we need is to find the 'scape goat'... :D I know... we'll say everything that happens bad is Reagan's fault..
I thought it was 'they' and 'them'.
Yeah but, pseudo they and thems...:) alright your right and I'm Reagan...
I blame the founding fathers for starting this country in the first place. :Shakes fist at sky: Damn them! Oh, and Lunar, shouldn't you be "RayGun" instead?
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: LunarRay
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: LunarRay
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
with no real resolution
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How was a fix going to be possible? The problem is always with the other guy, not with ourselves. How do you make the other guy change, especially when he's right like myself? :D
You find an alternative person that every one can blame everthing on thus everyone but one is right. So all we need is to find the 'scape goat'... :D I know... we'll say everything that happens bad is Reagan's fault..
I thought it was 'they' and 'them'.
Yeah but, pseudo they and thems...:) alright your right and I'm Reagan...
I blame the founding fathers for starting this country in the first place. :Shakes fist at sky: Damn them! Oh, and Lunar, shouldn't you be "RayGun" instead?

raygun... reagan... I thunk that out in my very own photon... called brain... I can't be 'Mini me' to Moonbeam's 'Not me' if I ain't me and I ain't him so I must be me all be it a second hand reflection of time... I think...
Moonbeam made my say it...
Ma... he's doing it again... make him stop...
 

Moonbeam

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Well the problem with Rayguns has always been mirrors. Those who polish their souls just aren't that easy to hit. At least that's how my very own photon reflects. The bent light of them and they is us. So if you don't like to see yourself every where you go, I suggest you get heavy.
 

UltraQuiet

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First of all, in response to the forthcoming posts about my posting style, personal attacks, etc - "Guilty as charged." Ok. Moving on.

What exactly is wrong with a set of rules based on those I posted? Are we afraid that we might have to post something with content, a little more than a link with some inane rant? That's the impression I get from reading this thread. Those rules are blatantly stolen from one of the most successful, informative msg. boards of this type on the internet. They are moderated but mostly by the users themselves and it is a very, very ,very good board whether it is the tech forum, the serious OT forum or the less serious OT forum. It is also a very liberal forum, so I disagree with a lot of posters over there but arguments are normally made in such a way that the flames are not often ignited.

It is something to think about.
 

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