Can Ubuntu 9.10 beat Mac OSX 10.6?

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: OBLAMA2009
whats up with n on linux. do any cards work with it? i have dlink, netgear and linksys n cards and none of them work in linux. does anyone know if any usb (g or n) adapters work in linux?

802.11n just got ratified. Give it a little bit of time before getting too worked up.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: VinDSL

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Yep, I knew a few people back at my previous university that purchased Apple hardware only to install Ubuntu on it immediately.

I work with 100s of ppl. Most of them have computers, but the only other person (I know of) that runs Linux is an uber-brilliant, highly accredited electrical engineer and Microsoft MVP, with several master's degrees under his belt - an ardently vocal Vista-hater, BTW... no kidding!

I know 3 Mac users. One of them has spent $1000s maintaining his MacBook. He travels a LOT - several days a week. Something is always breaking (probably due to rough handling), and he just takes it to the $hop and has it fixed. When I've asked him why he puts up with it, he said the MacBook is a good ice-breaker, e.g. conversation piece. When he's in a meeting, he's the only guy at the table with an Apple, and everyone asks him about it. Whatever! I guess he's an unrepentant attention seeker. He's on a budget, so it doesn't come out of his pocket...

Another Mac user is a former Amiga fanboi that longs for the good old days of computing - in his case, the 80s. He says Macs are close enough...

The other one is gay and has a long-term, live-in relationship with a 4-star pastry chef. Let's not go there... :roll:

The other day, I heard that one of my work acquaintances bought a Dell Mini with Linux. I thought, "Cool! I got someone I can share Linux Netbook stories with now." No such luck! When I hooked up with him, he said he's going to wipe the drive and install XP. I looked at him in shock and disbelief. I wonder if it showed. I didn't even bother asking what version of Linux was installed. I figured, "What's the use?" After all, the Bible warns us about casting your pearls before swine, yes?

I just don't get it!

Um...

What was the topic?

Do you Linux users realize how off-putting you are? The smug is strong in this one.

 

[sourceninja]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: OBLAMA2009
whats up with n on linux. do any cards work with it? i have dlink, netgear and linksys n cards and none of them work in linux. does anyone know if any usb (g or n) adapters work in linux?

802.11n just got ratified. Give it a little bit of time before getting too worked up.

Of course all those card manufactures that have been making n cards will suddenly start writing linux drivers right

But seriously, I hope they do!

 

[Cogman]

Meh, the article didn't seem very conclusive to me. Most of the tests looked to be within normal ranges of operation, It didn't seem like there where a whole lot of flat out Ubuntu wins. (OpenSSL being the exception.) And even then, I think the difference is going to be in the way it was compiled, considering that OpenSSL is pretty much entirely CPU bound and not HD bound.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: sourceninja
Of course all those card manufactures that have been making n cards will suddenly start writing linux drivers right

But seriously, I hope they do!

There's what? Half a dozen chipsets out there? RALink has generally been good at interacting with devs/writing open code. Atheros has "recently" started working with the (linux) community a bit better, by writing code I think. Intel has written plenty of code, and even OpenBSD has drivers for most of their stuff (no 802.11n support, since there wasn't an official 802.11n until recently).

Who else is there at this point?

EDIT: madwifi and ralink supposedly support 802.11n for their chipsets.

 

[KeypoX]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: OBLAMA2009
whats up with n on linux. do any cards work with it? i have dlink, netgear and linksys n cards and none of them work in linux. does anyone know if any usb (g or n) adapters work in linux?

802.11n just got ratified. Give it a little bit of time before getting too worked up.

mine works otb. Its a dell forget the model... not on laptop right now.

Worked on 9.04, 910 alpha 5 + 6 and 8.10

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: KeypoX

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: OBLAMA2009
whats up with n on linux. do any cards work with it? i have dlink, netgear and linksys n cards and none of them work in linux. does anyone know if any usb (g or n) adapters work in linux?

802.11n just got ratified. Give it a little bit of time before getting too worked up.

mine works otb. Its a dell forget the model... not on laptop right now.

Worked on 9.04, 910 alpha 5 + 6 and 8.10

Out of curiosity, when you get a chance, post the chipset. If you don't mind.

 

[KeypoX]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: KeypoX

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: OBLAMA2009
whats up with n on linux. do any cards work with it? i have dlink, netgear and linksys n cards and none of them work in linux. does anyone know if any usb (g or n) adapters work in linux?

802.11n just got ratified. Give it a little bit of time before getting too worked up.

mine works otb. Its a dell forget the model... not on laptop right now.

Worked on 9.04, 910 alpha 5 + 6 and 8.10

Out of curiosity, when you get a chance, post the chipset. If you don't mind.

sorry its not dell its intel 5100. in a dell computer

 

[Brazen]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Do you Linux users realize how off-putting you are? The smug is strong in this one.

I know, big shocker finding people who prefer Linux here, right? Welcome to the *nix Software forum. If you want entirely unbiased and completely objectional discussion, maybe you should go to the Windows Software forum.

/sarcasm

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Brazen

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Do you Linux users realize how off-putting you are? The smug is strong in this one.

I know, big shocker finding people who prefer Linux here, right? Welcome to the *nix Software forum. If you want entirely unbiased and completely objectional discussion, maybe you should go to the Windows Software forum.

/sarcasm

Sarcasm noted.

But anyways, I find hardcore Windows and Mac users to be just as smug. And BSD users to be a bit smugier (With good reason in fact , despite my use of a non-word).
It is a talent to look beyond the ego to the real meat of the issue at hand.

 

[JJChicken]

I've just installed Linux (Ubuntu 9.04) on my laptop and connected to the internet for the first time! It was a pain setting up net because Kubuntu's wireless manager sucks balls. Plus, my laptop has no cd drive so it was a pain setting up a bootable usb drive!http://start.ubuntu.com/9.04/

/joining the *Nix Software Club

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Barack Obama
I've just installed Linux (Ubuntu 9.04) on my laptop and connected to the internet for the first time! It was a pain setting up net because Kubuntu's wireless manager sucks balls. Plus, my laptop has no cd drive so it was a pain setting up a bootable usb drive!http://start.ubuntu.com/9.04/

/joining the *Nix Software Club

Welcome!

 

[Colt45]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

There's what? Half a dozen chipsets out there? RALink has generally been good at interacting with devs/writing open code. Atheros has "recently" started working with the (linux) community a bit better, by writing code I think. Intel has written plenty of code, and even OpenBSD has drivers for most of their stuff (no 802.11n support, since there wasn't an official 802.11n until recently).

Who else is there at this point?

evil evil Broadcom, that won't even give you a fucking datasheet without a 20 page NDA, and a contract to build a billion routers/wifi cards/etc

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

There's what? Half a dozen chipsets out there? RALink has generally been good at interacting with devs/writing open code. Atheros has "recently" started working with the (linux) community a bit better, by writing code I think. Intel has written plenty of code, and even OpenBSD has drivers for most of their stuff (no 802.11n support, since there wasn't an official 802.11n until recently).

Who else is there at this point?

evil evil Broadcom, that won't even give you a fucking datasheet without a 20 page NDA, and a contract to build a billion routers/wifi cards/etc

I forgot about them. Thankfully mini-pci/mini-pcie/usb adapters with better chipsets (and even Intel chipsets that "work") are available.

I picked up a small buffalo adapter that's about an inch long (including the usb plug). Should be a nice replacement for the large adapter in my netbook. It's using RaLink, of course.

 

[LuckyTaxi]

neat, i guess, but i dont expect that anyone picks one or the other based on performance.

THANK YOU! I know a couple of ppl who bought Mac's because they thought it was cool. Just for web browsing and listening to music they told me they wanted a nice system to handle the "load." Sigh, and here I am with an old P4 desktop running VMs.

Anyways, I'm tired of reading these reviews about how Ubuntu/Fedora takes less than 10 seconds to boot up. Who the f*** cares? Once my system is up, I rarely reboot or take it down so it doesnt bother me if the boot up process takes 20 seconds. Give me a stable OS where flash doesnt f'n freeze my browser and drivers that actually work out of the box w/ my dual monitor setup and I'll be happy!

 

[VinDSL]

Well...

I installed Ubu 9.10 on my P4 EE box... and... um... it works. What can I say?

LoL!

To tell you the truth, it looks n' feels just like 9.04. GRUB is butt fugly, but the loader is nicer. The only 'shocker' was...

I needed to print something (like right now) and didn't have my network and/or printer sharing set up, so I grabbed a USB-USB cable and connected my printer directly to the computer. When I went to configure it, Ubu had already found my HP Deskjet 990cxi and installed it (correctly too). Hello?!?!? Never had that happen before.

Anyway, so far, so good... but hardly earth-shaking, you know? Printer aside...

 

[jvroig]

Well...
... so I grabbed a USB-USB cable and connected my printer directly to the computer. When I went to configure it, Ubu had already found my HP Deskjet 990cxi and installed it (correctly too). Hello?!?!? Never had that happen before.

I had that same experience as well, but for an Epson Stylus C45 printer, and on a Fedora 9 installation. Seems Linux in general does have some great surprises every once in a while.