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The video lays it out how the billionaires get the struggling working class to remain their bitches and keep making them rich forever. How tools like ben shapiro pretend to care while being bankrolled by the billionaire class.
 
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In this last few months, you've hada few things happen, which is Ben Shapiro

talked about going to one of your showsand complaining about you becoming woke,

which sort of then created this.

He doesn't even know what that word means.

God, I love this video.

In it, comedian Bill Burrtorches Ben Shapiro

and then exposes something that I don'tthink enough people are talking about.

And I don't even think peoplewho've seen this noticed he did.

And then he slams the Joe Rogan cloneswho take the lazy and profitable road

to fascist lapdog, all because they'rejust bad at comedy and he's not alone.

And I'll show you all that and more.But first, here's the backstory.

Ben Shapiro went to a show that BillBurr did, complained about him being woke,

and now Burr is about to nuke the guy.

His definition of woke isis white liberals definition of woke,

and they didn't even know what it was.

They just took the word from black people.

That's the worst thing about our people isnot only do we take from other cultures,

we don't even take the timeto understand the definition.

Yeah, he went there to be annoyedso he can then have something

to talk about, and then he can make moneyoff of dividing his own country.

Yeah.

Those people,that's treasonous, what they do.

There it is.

Regardless of what woke startedout meaning, which was just be aware

of how they're trying to you.

The right has made it mean I don't know.I can't believe there's the mermaid.

This mermaid is black.Why did you make me want to?

Eminem?

How dare you tell a childthat Rosa Parks existed?

And now the right wing is trying to saythat the left is killing comedy

and comedians should hate woke.

But comedians like Bill Burr just call outannoying things in a funny way, regardless

of what side of the aisle they fall on.

And apparently that broke BenShapiro's brain and Bill Burr

is about to call him out for it.

What I'm finding is that people keeptrying to categorize what it is that

you're doing, like that idiot Ben Shapiro.

Oh, he's he's woke now.He's like, I don't that guy.

Someone came to me and goes,hey, man, you should.

He was trying to bring me into his fold.

At one point, the guy liked me.Yeah, yeah.

You know, and then when I didn't, then allof a sudden, I'm a I mean, I'm supposed

to look at that guy like he's an adult?

Anybody else pick up on that?

It sounds like Ben Shapirosent an envoy to Bill Burr to try

to turn him into a minion of the right.

He was trying to bring me into his fold.

At one point, the guy liked me.Yeah, yeah.

You know.

And then when I didn't, then allof a sudden, I'm a I mean, I'm supposed

to look at that guy like he's an adult.

Yeah.

It didn't work on Bill Burr because he'sa good comedian who doesn't need that.

So when Bill Burr was calling out,like mealy mouthed liberals

for bastardizing, the term wokeand making it super annoying.

- Ben Shapiro was like.- Oh, we got him now.

We got him now.

Maybe if I rub his belly and callhim pretty, he'll come over to our side

like all the other sad, vapid comediansthat worked on before.

Theo Von, Andrew Schultz, Joe Rogan.

But Bill Burr has been at this for a longtime, and he's like in a Star War.

He doesn't need that.He still says stuff like this.

My new perspective is there's nothingwrong with being a billionaire, but

if somebody is working 40 hours a week,

160 hours a month,and they can't make their rent,

you're not paying them enough money.

Maybe you should justbe worth 900 million.

Yeah, yeah.

Like, how does a CEO take a eightfigure bonus and none of your employees

have dental insurance?

They can't even go out and get a filling.

Boom. Say something like that.

And Ben Shapirocan no longer go along with you.

And here's why.It makes me so damn happy to see this.

This is what happenswhen a grifter meets an artist,

when a bull meets a bull detector,when the bot meets the undeniable.

This right here.

This is the specific edgefor the right wing grift.

Because there are only two reasonswhy the right wing starts culture wars.

One, to make money Ben Shapiro.

Watch all my videosabout the military industrial complex.

But the other reasonis probably more nefarious.

It is a way to divide the working classand convince it to vote along

the interests of the billionaire class.

Every time the right wingis like some trans or.

This.

Movie's too woke, they're just tryingto convince poor people to vote

the way the billionaires want them to.

I mean, what Bill Burr said is true andmoral, and no matter how moral and true,

Ben Shapiro wants you to believe he is,

he is not free to say the stuffBill Burr is free to say,

because it would anger the billionaireswho bankrolled his entire existence.

Not being able to say that kind of stuffis the reason Ben Shapiro gets money.

So when Bill Burr says stuff like that,Ben Shapiro basically turns

into the vampire who got to your doorstep.

He's like, I can't go in there,and I really want to.

And he gets really pissed off.And you know who else does?

Well, racists.

It became a thing onlinewhere then a certain portion of the right

complained about how you're woke.

Racists.

- And we're racist.- They're racist.

Yeah.

They send pictures of monkeysto me and my wife.

They're horrible peopleand they're cowards.

And they never say it to your face.Yeah, they never do that.

Now here's the turnthat I did not think Bill Burr was going

to take in this interview.

But he does.

He calls out the way that lesser comediansoffer psychopaths a path to legitimacy.

Look, dude, there's an ugliness that'sout there right now where, you know,

there's certain podcasts out there that ifyou're a racist, if you're an anti-Semite,

If you're a psycho nationalistand you want a softball interview,

there's podcast out there where you canand they will laugh at your bad jokes

and just give you this, this pass.

And it's like, you know,there's there's a really ugly thing

that's going on out there.

And, you know, it's the kind of thingswe've already seen this

and we've seen what it does to a nation.

And it's not it's not the way to go.It's not the way to go.

Now, when I watch that again, maybe he'stalking about Ben Shapiro and Tucker

Carlson and that whole complex of folks.

And he might not be talkingabout Joe Rogan and the clones,

because a lot of comedians are goingto take a step back before doing that.

But you know who is not afraidto call out these folks?

Marc Maron now, Marc Maronis a comedian's comedian.

He is in the vein of Mort Sahl, LennyBruce, George Carlin, that type of guy.

And he is not afraid to call out the folkswho moved to Austin to follow Joe Rogan.

I think the the Austinshelf life is going to be.

Well, I don't know, like I think that it'sso effectively tribalised at this point.

It really comes down to material.

I mean, at what point like at what pointit's like whatever they represented

in terms of policy.

And it's not a stretch.

It's like they won.Trans people are frightened.

They have no abilityto get health care anymore.

And and they they're afraid of being aliveand have no freedom left.

So that's done.When do you stop with the jokes?

Like immigrants?

Okay, well, they're being ripped awayfrom their homes and.

Yeah, and they're, you know,and they're all terrified and

and okay, so that's done.

- When do you stop with the jokes?- Right.

I mean, it's one thing to, to pickon the vulnerable and the marginalized,

but, I mean, they're down.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean.

Seeing Marin there is great because it'spart of a growing chorus of comedians

who are like, all right, enough's enough.

We see the hack comediansdoing their bits about trans people.

Let's actually focus on being funnyrather than just riding a wave.

Everyone else is riding.

And by everyone, I mean comedianswho aren't funny enough

to tell edgy jokes well or have skin thickenough to handle the blowback.

I've been seeing.

Like Jeselnik having an issue with peoplelike Tony Hinchcliffe, who he's saying

uses profanity or just shock value comedy.

- What's your thoughts on that?- Well, at.

This point, it's lazyand sloppy and hackneyed.

You know, to be in a club where,you know, I'm walking down the hall

at the comedy club, at the Comedy Storeand, you know, in one room someone's

doing their bit about trans people.

And then I get down the hall and there'ssomeone on stage going, well, I guess

I got to do my bit about trans people.Like, no, you don't, you don't.

It's it's hack now.

I don't know that comedianshave had that much power.

- Are you out of your mind?- No. I'm so good.

And by the way, here is that clipof Jeselnik they were both talking about.

Just so you knowwhere they're coming from, these.

Comics now, it's like,almost the point is to get in trouble.

It's like, why are you giving me.

I'm a comic.I'm allowed to say whatever I want.

That's wrong. As far as I'm concerned.

Art always say it againso I don't miss it.

People think like, oh, as a comic,your job is to get in trouble.

And so.But they don't want to get yelled at.

It's like it's okay to make people mad,but they don't want any pushback.

And I think that's wrong as a comedian.You want to make people laugh.

Andy, this is a quote attributedto Andy Warhol that I love.

It's just art is getting away with it.

You know, if you put out a specialand everyone's pissed

like you didn't get away with it.

You know, you need to make everyone laugh.

They're like, yeah, you fucked up stuff,but we're all happy.

That's art.

- Otherwise, you're just a troll.- And I love that.

And like, honestly,there's tons of annoying people

on either side of the aisle.

I fully understand it, but I thinkthe ones that are the most annoying

are the ones that just want to kick down.

And even worse than that,it's the people who think they're

hilarious when really like,

do we really think that Ben Shapiro andpeople like Jordan Peterson on the right

are the arbiters of what's hilarious?

- I mean, have you heard them tell jokes?- Do you know the interrupting cow joke?

Of course.

Who doesn't knowthe interrupting cow joke?

The kids kids loved it.Interrupting cow joke.

Do you think. Do you think we can do it?

I probably.

Sure. Okay.

- All right.- Okay.

- Knock, knock.- Who's there?

No, I missed it.

No no no no. Let's try that again.

- Knock, knock.- Who's there?

The interrupting cow.

- Interrupting cow.- Moo moo.

- There we go.- So good.

There it is. I love that joke.

Yeah. They do.

Yeah. Why do ducks have flat feet?

- Why?- For stomping out flaming forest fires.

Why?

There's a wait. There's a kicker.

What? Elephants have flat feet.

- Why?- For stamping out flaming ducks.

I like that.

Actually,I feel like my kids will like that.

Maybe until they grow upand realize who their father was.

All right, everybody, that's my time.Thanks for watching.

Like and subscribe and you'll getmore videos from rebel headquarters.

That's it.

And this is a Lenny Bruce book that Iwas going to show you, but I didn't.

It gets really weird. By.

AI Summary:

Over the last few months, a chain of events started when Ben Shapiro showed up at one of Bill Burr’s shows and complained that Burr had gone woke. Burr’s response then kicked off a bigger takedown, and this video unpacks what Burr exposed and why it matters—including stuff that a lot of people probably missed.

First, Burr’s critique centers on what people mean by “woke.” Shapiro’s version is basically the white-liberal version, Burr argues, and Shapiro and his crew don’t even know what the word means—they merely borrowed it from Black culture without taking the time to understand it. Burr’s point is that Shapiro went to the show to be annoyed, to have something to talk about, and to cash in by fueling division in the country.

Burr also goes after the right’s claim that the left is “killing” comedy and that comedians should hate woke. Burr’s stance has always been that comedy should call out annoying stuff in a sharp way, regardless of which side you’re on. Shapiro’s reaction—“we’ve got him now”—is framed as trying to corral Burr into the fold, like rubbing a belly hoping he’ll behave, hoping Burr will become a reliable ally. Burr doesn’t bite, because he’s a seasoned comedian who doesn’t need that shtick.

The backstory Burr lays out is blunt: some people try to label him woke or not woke as a peg to put him on the other side. He recalls someone trying to pull him in, someone who once liked him but then treated him like an adult should bow to the other guy. Burr suggests Shapiro sent an envoy to win him over, and Burr’s answer was a clear no. That moment, Burr notes, shows how the right tried to weaponize his brand, but Burr remains independent and unbuyable.

From there Burr pivots to a broader critique of the right’s use of woke as a grift. The pattern, Burr says, is that the right whipping up culture wars serves two purposes: money and division. The money angle is obvious—billions are tied to selling a certain narrative—but the more troubling angle is dividing the working class to vote in line with billionaire interests. Burr argues that the “woke” drumbeat is often a vehicle for this divide-and-conquer strategy, with the aim of keeping people angry at each other instead of looking at the real economic dynamics at play.

The video also pulls apart the uglier side of the online ecosystem. Burr names the racists who weaponize the debate, even sending pictures of monkeys to Burr and his wife. He notes that those people never say these things to your face, which makes the behavior even more contemptible. Burr’s critique isn’t just about jokes; it’s about what kind of people are being normalized in certain corners of the culture war.

What Burr didn’t expect to foreground, but did, is a critique of “lesser” comedians who give dangerous or psychopathic voices a path to legitimacy by booking them on friendly, forgiving platforms. Burr calls out the ugliness that’s proliferating on some podcasts and in some interview formats where racists, anti-Semites, or ultra-nationalists can get a soft pass. The message is clear: giving those voices a platform isn’t heroism; it’s enabling harmful ideas.

Burr isn’t alone in this critique. The piece also nods to Marc Maron, a comedian’s comedian, who isn’t afraid to call out the Joe Rogan crowd that decamped to Austin. Maron suggests that the Austin scene’s shelf life is questionable, because material—more than branding or location—will determine what holds up. He argues that once you stop punching up and start punching down, the material loses its edge. The implication is that some who followed Rogan’s model have lingered too long in a space where controversy has become the point rather than the payoff—unless the jokes still land.

Another thread in the discussion is the tension among comedians who push back against the easy road of shock and offense for its own sake. The piece cites Jeselnik’s critique of colleagues who rely on profanity and shock to get a laugh, arguing that it’s become lazy and hackneyed to grab attention with contrarianism about trans people or other marginalized groups. In a clinic-style exchange, the hosts replay Jeselnik’s feeling that a lot of modern club acts devolve into “I’ve got to do my bit about trans people” because the room expects it, not because it’s funny or necessary. The point: real comedy should be about cleverness and timing, not about punching down or trying to get canceled.

The conversation even loops in a Warhol quip: art, in its essence, is about getting away with it. If everyone leaves the room furious, that’s not necessarily a win—it’s a sign that the joke landed. The goal, as argued here, is to make people laugh while not surrendering the principle that you can be funny without giving in to low-effort provocation. The exchange also riffs on a few classic jokes—the interrupting cow gag, the perpetual goof that keeps both sides honest about what a joke is supposed to do.

Towards the end, the discussion lands on a broader testimony about who gets to define what’s funny, and who doesn’t. The vibe is that the loudest voices on the right—people like Shapiro and those who mimic him—aren’t the arbiters of what’s funny. They’re often trying to police humor to fit a political agenda, whereas Burr (and other comedians who push back) argue that humor should serve the truth and critique, not just shore up a faction’s power.

As the piece closes, the speaker keeps the camera rolling on a few final notes: the world of politics, entertainment, and media isn’t just a tug-of-war over ideas; it’s a theater where real money, real power, and real audiences collide. And when you see a grifter meet an artist—when a propaganda engine collides with a voice that actually tells the truth—there’s a clash that’s worth watching. The segment ends with the typical closing tease: like, subscribe, and more videos from Rebel Headquarters. It even teases a Lenny Bruce book that was going to be shown, but didn’t get there before the vibe shifts to something “really weird.”

In short, Burr’s takedown, as laid out here, isn’t just about one woke debate. It’s a critique of how the right uses culture wars to monetize division, how some comedians enable dangerous ideas by giving them free platforms, and how a few voices—like Burr and Maron—are pushing back to keep humor honest and pointed at power rather than at marginalized people.
 

Jaskalas

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Humans lack the capacity for innate critical thinking.
Meaning, that if such concepts are to be acted upon, these people must first be trained and educated towards this specific purpose.
Absent that, we are a feral animal bereft of the knowledge of the world, of how society and people function. We adopt idols and provide worship.
From the worship of false idols, propaganda is fuel to the fire of our own zealous damnation. Modern communication has taken that to heights never before conceived of.

We are entering a new era of madness and tribalism. Where Democratic institutions are especially weak and unprepared to curb stomp human nature... before human nature devours them.

To wit, you ask.. will voters learn?
My post provides the reason behind my reply: Hell no. They cannot be reasoned with. A form of social rabies has infected humanity. They are Old Yeller.
 
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Humans lack the capacity for innate critical thinking.
I'm pretty sure that these people are aware that they are on the wrong side. At least, in their hearts. Every time they promote something bad and oppose something right, their inner voice says to them, WTF??? So then they turn angry and you can see their anger come out when they are questioned about their beliefs.

They are afraid. They don't want to accept or come to terms with the fact that they have lagged behind other races due to their complacency. It's fine by them as long as other races make them rich and they can live a lavish lifestyle but as soon as someone other than white comes into a leadership position or a white leader mentions even the possibility of more diversity and inclusion, they feel threatened. They fear a society where they are no longer the majority or at least, have the power to act like a majority and have control over essential decisions that could shape the future and change the demographics.

If they are facing failure because of their bad decisions or inaction or just plain laziness, they find it easier to lay the blame on the migrants. "They took away our jobs!". "They are enjoying welfare from our taxes!". They refuse to respect the contributions of countless non-white Americans that have helped the US make enormous strides in many industries. Mostly because many of them think everything of note was done by their own kind. These people are mostly ignorant A-holes who don't know any better and don't even want to bother.

If they would just browse through the member directory of distinguished Americans here: https://horatioalger.org/members/

They will see that race has nothing to do with excellence. Regardless of their background or skin color, these people made it in life through sheer hard work, perseverance and tenacity against all odds.
 

Jaskalas

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I'm pretty sure that these people are aware that they are on the wrong side. At least, in their hearts. Every time they promote something bad and oppose something right, their inner voice says to them, WTF??? So then they turn angry and you can see their anger come out when they are questioned about their beliefs.

They are afraid...
If they are facing failure...
If they would just...
They will see...
Where does this optimism come from?

I saw with my eyes how the American people cried out in pain in 2016. They needed an outside hero to shake our broken system to its core. To fix things for them.
I saw the monster they elevated to that position. With each passing day that monster surpassed even my wildest expectations for how evil and corrupt they would be.

Surely, the American people could see.

So the 2020 election was our opportunity. Just as Obama's election was a condemnation of Bush for the Iraq war. So too would this wrong be righted. It was not.
More votes than ever endorsed this evil. This stain on who we are as a people, as a Democracy, as a world leader in both military strength and economic trade.

Every time Trump's crimes against America got worse, surely the American people had to see.

From inviting Russia to attack our 2016 election.
To blackmailing Ukraine into attacking our 2020 election.
For refusing to accept the election results and inciting a violent mob to storm Congress.
From being convicted of 34 felonies, and being prosecuted for so much more.

Every. Single. Time. His acts of evil grew worse, his crimes more blatant. The good voters you hold out hope for... they proved that they would rather surrender their morals. Do you understand why they keep doing that? It is as I said. They worship a false idol. Trump is their god. The faith is MAGA. Their method is Nazism. And we will not find reason where there is none. It is not about their pain anymore. They have campaigned for and rallied behind their shared hatred. Have you ever seen News Max?

The pain of a broken trickle-down America where predatory Capitalism chews people up and spits them out. That is where they started, but it is the hatred for others that makes them stay. This is why they endorse full Presidential power over the People, the States, even over Congress and SCOTUS. This is why they endorse fully armed and deployed military on our streets. This is why they endorse concentration camps with torturous conditions. This is why they endorse GENOCIDE in Europe, and elsewhere. Why they have authorized military force against Mexico, Central and South America.

Do I need to keep going? The reality we face is not one of coexistence. We live in Nazi Germany Redux. We are not even close to how bad it is going to become.
 
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Do I need to keep going? The reality we face is not one of coexistence. We live in Nazi Germany Redux. We are not even close to how bad it is going to become.
I think simply blaming the people for electing trump a second time is not right. The voting machines were manipulated by Palantir. This is a ploy by the billionaire class to force the democrats to declare an insurrection, giving them the excuse to shut it down with brute force and then forever remove them from the equation, thus creating a one party state. Just as that monster Peter Thiel publicly said that people never have to vote again. The bloodsuckers want to assure the people that they have the best interests of the country at heart when all they really want is to go about their business of breaking laws with impunity and amassing wealth for their coming generations and becoming ruling families.

Hating and antagonizing the right may not be the best course of action. They need to be made aware of the threat that faces everyone, including themselves and their families. Once all is lost, even they will be powerless to do anything.
 
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I think simply blaming the people for electing trump a second time is not right. The voting machines were manipulated by Palantir.
Incredible claims require incredible evidence.

There's no reason not to believe that Trump won legitimately (the votes themselves were not tampered with) even if he unfairly benefitted from certain policies (e.g. voter suppression).

Plenty of demographic blocks swung towards trump in 2024 in addition to democrat voters staying home. That's a recipe for a loss no matter how good a candidate is.
 
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brycejones

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Incredible claims require incredible evidence.

There's no reason not to believe that Trump won legitimately (the votes themselves were not tampered with) even if he unfairly benefitted from certain policies (e.g. voter suppression).

Plenty of demographic blocks swung towards trump in 2024 in addition to democrat voters staying home. That's a recipe for a loss no matter how good a candidate is.
The evidence:

Women work at palantir and there are 8 letters in the company’s name. Plus 5 from the founders first name equals 13 which is a bad hombre number.
 

hal2kilo

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Incredible claims require incredible evidence.

There's no reason not to believe that Trump won legitimately (the votes themselves were not tampered with) even if he unfairly benefitted from certain policies (e.g. voter suppression).

Plenty of demographic blocks swung towards trump in 2024 in addition to democrat voters staying home. That's a recipe for a loss no matter how good a candidate is.
This guy is getting weirder and weirder.
 

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Where does this optimism come from?
……………………..
Do I need to keep going? The reality we face is not one of coexistence. We live in Nazi Germany Redux. We are not even close to how bad it is going to become.
Sorry, reply was lost in edit as well as a second attempt.
 
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Incredible claims require incredible evidence.

There's no reason not to believe that Trump won legitimately (the votes themselves were not tampered with) even if he unfairly benefitted from certain policies (e.g. voter suppression).

Plenty of demographic blocks swung towards trump in 2024 in addition to democrat voters staying home. That's a recipe for a loss no matter how good a candidate is.
There are reasons to believe irregularities occurred, they're going through the court system now. Obviously with the election already certified it's not going to change the outcome, but I don't see the sense in pretending everything happened normally and smoothly with the people we know who absolutely did attempt to cheat in the 2020 election, there's no reason to believe they wouldn't do so again in 2024 when the stakes were even higher.
 
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Humans lack the capacity for innate critical thinking.
Meaning, that if such concepts are to be acted upon, these people must first be trained and educated towards this specific purpose.
Absent that, we are a feral animal bereft of the knowledge of the world, of how society and people function. We adopt idols and provide worship.
From the worship of false idols, propaganda is fuel to the fire of our own zealous damnation. Modern communication has taken that to heights never before conceived of.

We are entering a new era of madness and tribalism. Where Democratic institutions are especially weak and unprepared to curb stomp human nature... before human nature devours them.

To wit, you ask.. will voters learn?
My post provides the reason behind my reply: Hell no. They cannot be reasoned with. A form of social rabies has infected humanity. They are Old Yeller.
As long as you feed into people's fears it alleviates them from having to think critically.

People who overuse the word woke don't know what it means. They only thing they know "we can use it to bash black people and libs"

The right has convinced to 10 trans college athletes are the downfall of America. We have bigger things to worry about like healthcare but right wingers don't want to work on that.
 
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