Can the NOW ever exsist?

[Vic]

The Now always exists. It is not a single point in time to be fixed, it is an ongoing continuum. It is the past and the future which have no existence.

 

[Moonbeam]

He knows what he's talking about.
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Moonbeam doesn't really know what he's talking about any more than the finger pointing at the moon IS the moon.

 

[CubicZirconia]

Originally posted by: wfbberzerker
damn. every time i think a thread like this is going to deteriorate into utter stupidity, moonbeam has to come in and smarten it all up. i hate that guy.

I don't have anything against Moonbeam, but what he said had virtually nothing to do with the existence of now.

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: MacBaine
When will then be now?

Soon.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: CubicZirconia

Originally posted by: wfbberzerker damn. every time i think a thread like this is going to deteriorate into utter stupidity, moonbeam has to come in and smarten it all up. i hate that guy.

I don't have anything against Moonbeam, but what he said had virtually nothing to do with the existence of now.

Well, time is what you make of it. Chances are that many conflicting points of view can be equally valid.

 

[Moonbeam]

Hay, do you think time could be quanticized coming in packets or descrete unites like a flim? I have perceived the world as a series of superimpositions not unlike what one see with a strobe light. I couldn't count, but I have a gut feeling there are probably seven of them and they are tied into the nature of the octave nature of the universe, or the phisiology of human perception or more likely both as one and the same thing. My guess is that, if so, they might be seven in kind, these packets.

 

[Nocturnal]

When will now be and how do we know when now is.

 

[SirChadwick]

What is the meaning of life Moonbeam?

 

[Martin]

i'll need to get high before I can answer

 

[Moonbeam]

The meaning of life, quite surprisingly, is to live, why?

 

[TallBill]

yes... it does right... NOW

 

[CubicZirconia]

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider

Originally posted by: CubicZirconia

Originally posted by: wfbberzerker damn. every time i think a thread like this is going to deteriorate into utter stupidity, moonbeam has to come in and smarten it all up. i hate that guy.

I don't have anything against Moonbeam, but what he said had virtually nothing to do with the existence of now.

Well, time is what you make of it. Chances are that many conflicting points of view can be equally valid.

I'm not saying there is a single correct point of view. I'm saying that in my opinion Moonbeam's first post in this thread had little to do with the topic in question. (Again in my opinion)- It philisophically skirted around actually answering the question. It could be that my aversion towards philosophy is preventing me from grasping what Moonbeam is trying to say though.

 

[nmcglennon]

I think time cannot be quanticized, however we try to for the sake of society and for progress.

We choose to relate our own time based relative to how our planet orbits. However, if you took away this, how would we measure it? I think it would be much harder... time isn't the same when there is nothing constant to measure it with... time is relative, and in space a second to us could be a million years to something else. It is relative to everything. You can even feel your sense of time warped when you are high... a 15 minute drive can feel like an hour, and the converse can be true. Thus in my own opinion you cannot truly quanticize time since we dont fully know what it is. We can only relate it to things that constants in our world... it is all relative.

To quote Einstein: "When you are courting a nice girl an hour seems like a second. When you sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. That's relativity."
Funny because it's true...

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Ya know M, I do not know how time is woven. Are there knots in the weave, or is it smooth like silk? I do think that time is static though. It is we who are moving, all dancing towards the what will be.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: MacBaine
When will then be now?

Soon.

How soon?

 

[Soccer55]

Dark Helmet: What the hell am I looking at? When does this happen in the movie?
Colonel Sandurz: You're looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now is happening now.
Dark Helmet: What hapened to then?
Colonel Sandurz: We passed then.
Dark Helmet: When?
Colonel Sandurz: Just now. We're at now now.
Dark Helmet: Go back to then.
Colonel Sandurz: When?
Dark Helmet: Now!
Colonel Sandurz: Now?
Dark Helmet: Now!
Colonel Sandurz: I can't.
Dark Helmet: Why?
Colonel Sandurz: We missed it.
Dark Helmet: When?
Colonel Sandurz: Just now.
Dark Helmet: When will then be now?
Colonel Sandurz: Soon.

-Tom

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
i'll need to get high before I can answer

Why has the greatest of all the sciences, philosophy and the study of the human condition, been degraded to the point where everyone thinks you need to be high before even considering it? :disgust:
Open your mind, man, give up your denials. Ponder your own awareness. You're not a non-sentient machine. It doesn't require drugs.

 

[nmcglennon]

I am not saying you need to be high to observe it, but when high you can certainly tell a difference...

 

[FrustratedUser]

You read this NOW, don't you!
Proof enough?

Be careful with the weed and crack pipe.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
You read this NOW, don't you!
Proof enough?

Be careful with the weed and crack pipe.

But I can read it over and over. Does this mean ATOT is stuck in the 'now'?

 

[Moonbeam]

Mind moves, eh Hay?

Is the now, from a personal perspective, perceptually identical in a black hole as it is riding a light beam? Perhaps time is some form of constant.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Mind moves, eh Hay? Is the now, from a personal perspective, perceptually identical in a black hole as it is riding a light beam? Perhaps time is some form of constant.

Its a space you can walk through while staying seated

 

[Moonbeam]

You mean like a dimension? Anyway, what's your take on the personal perception thing?

 

[MithShrike]

Read All of an Instant by Richard Garfinkle. That should help you.

 

[LethalWolfe]

Now is now. Now always exists because it's now. It's never the past, it's never the future, it's always now.


Lethal