Can the NOW ever exsist?

DX2Player

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If between any two numbers exsists an infinate amount of numbers how can we stop infinity so call something now? Actually if you think about it time could never start based on the concept of numbers in sequence.
 

DX2Player

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No but people believe in the present which is the now, so if you dont live in the now where do you live?
 

tweakmm

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Time is nothing more than arbitrarily placed markers on this thing us monkeys like to call existance

oh yeah, on a slightly different note, you should probably put the bong down:cool:
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: DX2Player
No but people believe in the present which is the now, so if you dont live in the now where do you live?

Kind of a moot point unless you have a time machine, isn't it?
 

DX2Player

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I would say we exsist in the future and live in the past, only understand can join the two because the now has never been.
 

db

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Why should "time" care about numbers?
Time is simply what we are wasting. W/o now, there wouldn't be then. Use the now to create your future or f*** it up--it's up to you.
 

Moonbeam

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Actually you have it all wrong. When the mind is fully turned on, when one becomes pure being, time ends and eternity begins. In the ocean of love there is no time, only the beloved. It the difference between watching the river of time and becoming the river. The only difference is that the river of time has no bank. Thought, division, the perception of time, these are all the fear of being.

To be or not to be, that is the question, this side of being.
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Actually you have it all wrong. When the mind is fully turned on, when one becomes pure being, time ends and eternity begins. In the ocean of love there is no time, only the beloved. It the difference between watching the river of time and becoming the river. The only difference is that the river of time has no bank. Thought, division, the perception of time, these are all the fear of being.

To be or not to be, that is the question, this side of being.

*head explodes*
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Actually you have it all wrong. When the mind is fully turned on, when one becomes pure being, time ends and eternity begins. In the ocean of love there is no time, only the beloved. It the difference between watching the river of time and becoming the river. The only difference is that the river of time has no bank. Thought, division, the perception of time, these are all the fear of being.

To be or not to be, that is the question, this side of being.

He knows what he's talking about.

The Now is always happening. It's your choice whether you live within it or not.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: Evadman
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Actually you have it all wrong. When the mind is fully turned on, when one becomes pure being, time ends and eternity begins. In the ocean of love there is no time, only the beloved. It the difference between watching the river of time and becoming the river. The only difference is that the river of time has no bank. Thought, division, the perception of time, these are all the fear of being.

To be or not to be, that is the question, this side of being.

*head explodes*
*poop*
 

BD231

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This sounds like something a Vulcan would say :confused:. "Why are we, we, I mean, who is, we"
 

DX2Player

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We are, regardless of acceptance, but what causes the now to change. To say that there is no progression is to say that only a singularity ever exsisted and that singularity only phantoms a now with an idea of now leaving everything else outside the fixation to a premade false exsistance.
 

dave127

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Without reading the thread, I thought this topic was about the National Orginization of Women, the liberal feminist group, and I was going to say they don't deserve to exist.

Dave
 

CubicZirconia

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Actually you have it all wrong. When the mind is fully turned on, when one becomes pure being, time ends and eternity begins. In the ocean of love there is no time, only the beloved. It the difference between watching the river of time and becoming the river. The only difference is that the river of time has no bank. Thought, division, the perception of time, these are all the fear of being.

To be or not to be, that is the question, this side of being.

He knows what he's talking about.

I'm sticking with my original idea. Now, in a physical sense, never really exists. As far as I can tell, what Moonbeam wrote above is purely philisophical and has almost nothing to do with whether or not now exists.
 

zayened

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Originally posted by: DX2Player
We are, regardless of acceptance, but what causes the now to change. To say that there is no progression is to say that only a singularity ever exsisted and that singularity only phantoms a now with an idea of now leaving everything else outside the fixation to a premade false exsistance.

*picks up DX2Player's bong :D*
 

xBopx

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Technically our perception of the events around us are limited by our physical capability to percieve those events. Before we get much farther in this discussion though, I think we need to more clearly define what 'NOW' actually is. Is now the present according to our perceptions, or is it the present according to the actual physical events that are occuring? WHere do you draw the line that distinguishes the two?
 

Zebo

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Yaya theres not such thing as an exact measurment either but we generalise so we can just move on with life.
 

wfbberzerker

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damn. every time i think a thread like this is going to deteriorate into utter stupidity, moonbeam has to come in and smarten it all up. i hate that guy. :D