Can the cops do this?

[Glitchny]

beond billegerent, and a few are friendly, a few of them are nice guys but they most likley wont get in trouble, im opretty decided on the course of actiuon but i just wanted to know if the cops could do this... and its about damn time they got in trouble

 

[GroundZero]

since you are a repeat offender yourself that they can legally ticket anytime in the space of a year, they are not technically "blackmailing" you. they are offering you immunity from prosecution in exchange for your testimony.
so either suck it up eat the tickets and the fine, or turn rat. isn't it funny how kids are always the ones being persecuted by the police, even though they admitt to doing something that they know is wrong? for example "But the other day i got a ticket for taking a shortcut on campus through a oneway road at 12am for all of 10 yards. ". Now my guess is that you have to have some sort of a brain in your head to have even gotten into school, or your daddy built the school a gym or something. So in saying this you already new that you were taking a "short cut" on a known oneway road.
30 feet or 3000 feet the wrongway on a oneway is deserving of a ticket. and obviously you disregaurd the rules of the road if you already have 9 points and are ready to loose your liscense. So maybe you should just grow up, be a man and take responsibility for your own actions. just like your friends should. take your tickets and lose your liscense, you earned it, so quit whining about it.

 

[tarheelmm]

You break the law you pay the price. You decide

 

[KC5AV]

It isn't blackmail... they are giving you the opportunity to begin your career as a police informant.

 

[DrPizza]

you went the wrong way... you admitted you were guilty. Therefore, you can get the ticket.

The cops decide that in return for information from you, they will drop the charges/ticket. Happens every day. That's business as usual. Ever hear of plea bargains? (in exchange for testimony against the leader, lower level people get a reduced sentence, etc.)

Nonetheless, I saw those pictures. You've gotta be kidding? That's damage??
While I was RA, in one night, while I was off to a movie with a hot girl on campus, the following happened:

250 pound bike rack hopelessly lodged in stairwell, damaging cinder blocks.

Bathroom drains stuffed/blocked... all showers and sinks turned on. West stairwell became a waterfall (and several rooms had up to 1 1/2 or 2 inches of water in them... apparently the building wasn't perfectly level, but 2 inches over 100 feet isn't too bad. Maybe they planned to have runoff in just such an event)

One kids door completely axed apart (I never found out who "axeman" was, but someone had that nickname the rest of the year; it was a secret guarded from me however.) Several other doors had axe damage.

30? 40? empty cans of shaving cream.

Bathroom stall... the entire bathroom stall... thrown through the huge window, destroying window frame and all.

Fire-alarm ripped from wall (this created an incident later when someone set my neighbors door on fire... the entire dorm evacuated except the residents of my floor who slept through it... Fire burned itself out after his trophies (written warnings, etc.) had finished burning. The kid would have been thrown out of school, but daddy paid cash for his tuition and donated a lot of $$ to the school. Hence, he had a lot of trophies and got away with it.

Stop sign. Not just the sign though, but the entire stop sign, pole, and 200 pounds of concrete were in the bathroom. Not just a normal sized one from in the city, but a big one from a highway meant to be seen from a distance. Oddly, after I took a shower with the stopsign in the morning, it disappeared 10 minutes later, without a trace. I never figured out where it went.

And the final thing that happened that night... The RA returned to the dorm, hand in hand with previously mentioned desireable member of the opposite sex, thinking "I'm getting lucky tonight!" Girl leaves dorm 3 minutes later as RA all but has a nervous breakdown.

I never found out who did the damage. As a result, the entire floor had to split the costs. I can't believe that there wasn't one of them who wanted to avoid paying 1/30th of the cost by giving names.

However, you have pictures of some pretty drawings on the wall and a chair duct taped to the wall? Pathetic.
Also, you say that some of them are going to be kicked out next year for the damages, and that seems all right to you? But, how will they be kicked out (and they should be) if no one comes forth to give the names?
The way I see it, if you see a crime being committed and you refuse to help police when they ask for help, you're just as bad as the people committing the crime. If they're really "friends", you can say to them, "you broke the window. Be a man and admit it to the RA... pay the consequences, probably pay for the window. But, I'm sure as he** not going to stand here and help pay for the window because you chose to be an idiot."

 

[dethman]

god damn this guy needs mavis beacon.

 

[Glitchny]

Originally posted by: GroundZero
since you are a repeat offender yourself that they can legally ticket anytime in the space of a year, they are not technically "blackmailing" you. they are offering you immunity from prosecution in exchange for your testimony.
so either suck it up eat the tickets and the fine, or turn rat. isn't it funny how kids are always the ones being persecuted by the police, even though they admitt to doing something that they know is wrong? for example "But the other day i got a ticket for taking a shortcut on campus through a oneway road at 12am for all of 10 yards. ". Now my guess is that you have to have some sort of a brain in your head to have even gotten into school, or your daddy built the school a gym or something. So in saying this you already new that you were taking a "short cut" on a known oneway road.
30 feet or 3000 feet the wrongway on a oneway is deserving of a ticket. and obviously you disregaurd the rules of the road if you already have 9 points and are ready to loose your liscense. So maybe you should just grow up, be a man and take responsibility for your own actions. just like your friends should. take your tickets and lose your liscense, you earned it, so quit whining about it.

whoa dude why dont u calm down, i never once complained about my ticket nor did i mention it was unfair so the whole "young stupid ass kid" argument is kinda retarded on your point glad u can read u stupid A$$hat. not once have i said this is unfair or that i dont deserve the ticket etc. I know i deserve it and I was/am really glad that i didnt get the ticket i was just asking if it was legal for them to use it as a bargaining tool and u answerted that in your first sentance.. you could have stopped there but u had to keep going and look like tough sh!t and try to bitch at me. Next time when i ask a question either dont respond or jsut leave a polite messege i dont remember crapping on your threads so STFU you anal moron.

 

[ZaneNBK]

Originally posted by: Glitchny
Ok for the last simester my hallmatesd have kinda been destroying the hallway and breaking windows being billigerent etc. I ahvent been involved and most of the time I try not to be ehre when it happens. But the other day i got a ticket for taking a shortcut on campus through a oneway road at 12am for all of 10 yards. The cop let me off of the tickets though because if he gave them to me i will lsoe my license.. 9 points.

thing is now the cops are arresting people in the hallway etc... so they want statments from people in the hall and the cheif of police told the officer that, if i dont help them to write me the tickets cause the officer has a year to do so. <snip...>

Damn, who has the secret decoder ring? ...or did someone slip something in my Diet Pepsi?

This is the most unintentionally nonsensical thing I think I've ever read here. 😛

 

[Glitchny]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
you went the wrong way... you admitted you were guilty. Therefore, you can get the ticket.

The cops decide that in return for information from you, they will drop the charges/ticket. Happens every day. That's business as usual. Ever hear of plea bargains? (in exchange for testimony against the leader, lower level people get a reduced sentence, etc.)

Nonetheless, I saw those pictures. You've gotta be kidding? That's damage??
While I was RA, in one night, while I was off to a movie with a hot girl on campus, the following happened:

250 pound bike rack hopelessly lodged in stairwell, damaging cinder blocks.

Bathroom drains stuffed/blocked... all showers and sinks turned on. West stairwell became a waterfall (and several rooms had up to 1 1/2 or 2 inches of water in them... apparently the building wasn't perfectly level, but 2 inches over 100 feet isn't too bad. Maybe they planned to have runoff in just such an event)

One kids door completely axed apart (I never found out who "axeman" was, but someone had that nickname the rest of the year; it was a secret guarded from me however.) Several other doors had axe damage.

30? 40? empty cans of shaving cream.

Bathroom stall... the entire bathroom stall... thrown through the huge window, destroying window frame and all.

Fire-alarm ripped from wall (this created an incident later when someone set my neighbors door on fire... the entire dorm evacuated except the residents of my floor who slept through it... Fire burned itself out after his trophies (written warnings, etc.) had finished burning. The kid would have been thrown out of school, but daddy paid cash for his tuition and donated a lot of $$ to the school. Hence, he had a lot of trophies and got away with it.

Stop sign. Not just the sign though, but the entire stop sign, pole, and 200 pounds of concrete were in the bathroom. Not just a normal sized one from in the city, but a big one from a highway meant to be seen from a distance. Oddly, after I took a shower with the stopsign in the morning, it disappeared 10 minutes later, without a trace. I never figured out where it went.

And the final thing that happened that night... The RA returned to the dorm, hand in hand with previously mentioned desireable member of the opposite sex, thinking "I'm getting lucky tonight!" Girl leaves dorm 3 minutes later as RA all but has a nervous breakdown.

I never found out who did the damage. As a result, the entire floor had to split the costs. I can't believe that there wasn't one of them who wanted to avoid paying 1/30th of the cost by giving names.

However, you have pictures of some pretty drawings on the wall and a chair duct taped to the wall? Pathetic.
Also, you say that some of them are going to be kicked out next year for the damages, and that seems all right to you? But, how will they be kicked out (and they should be) if no one comes forth to give the names?
The way I see it, if you see a crime being committed and you refuse to help police when they ask for help, you're just as bad as the people committing the crime. If they're really "friends", you can say to them, "you broke the window. Be a man and admit it to the RA... pay the consequences, probably pay for the window. But, I'm sure as he** not going to stand here and help pay for the window because you chose to be an idiot."

thank you for the organized and non critical assinine response onlike the person above you. And I see your point in telling what happened. Those pictures arent nearly any of the damages. I'm usually not here when they do sh!t so i jsut see the stuff that has been cleaned up etc.. and i guerss your school was a little more lenient on the destruction issue

 

[Glitchny]

Originally posted by: ZaneNBK

Originally posted by: Glitchny
Ok for the last simester my hallmatesd have kinda been destroying the hallway and breaking windows being billigerent etc. I ahvent been involved and most of the time I try not to be ehre when it happens. But the other day i got a ticket for taking a shortcut on campus through a oneway road at 12am for all of 10 yards. The cop let me off of the tickets though because if he gave them to me i will lsoe my license.. 9 points.

thing is now the cops are arresting people in the hallway etc... so they want statments from people in the hall and the cheif of police told the officer that, if i dont help them to write me the tickets cause the officer has a year to do so. <snip...>

Damn, who has the secret decoder ring? ...or did someone slip something in my Diet Pepsi?

This is the most unintentionally nonsensical thing I think I've ever read here. 😛

well lets see read it and then when the letteres for some words are reversed... switch them back and there u go, english! u people spend more time yelling at othersd aobut the way they type then actually looking at their posts... If i wanted to type nicely i would but i obviously dont really care that much since i got the point across to most of the people that have responded.

 

[Ylen13]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
you went the wrong way... you admitted you were guilty. Therefore, you can get the ticket.

The cops decide that in return for information from you, they will drop the charges/ticket. Happens every day. That's business as usual. Ever hear of plea bargains? (in exchange for testimony against the leader, lower level people get a reduced sentence, etc.)

Nonetheless, I saw those pictures. You've gotta be kidding? That's damage??
While I was RA, in one night, while I was off to a movie with a hot girl on campus, the following happened:

250 pound bike rack hopelessly lodged in stairwell, damaging cinder blocks.

Bathroom drains stuffed/blocked... all showers and sinks turned on. West stairwell became a waterfall (and several rooms had up to 1 1/2 or 2 inches of water in them... apparently the building wasn't perfectly level, but 2 inches over 100 feet isn't too bad. Maybe they planned to have runoff in just such an event)

One kids door completely axed apart (I never found out who "axeman" was, but someone had that nickname the rest of the year; it was a secret guarded from me however.) Several other doors had axe damage.

30? 40? empty cans of shaving cream.

Bathroom stall... the entire bathroom stall... thrown through the huge window, destroying window frame and all.

Fire-alarm ripped from wall (this created an incident later when someone set my neighbors door on fire... the entire dorm evacuated except the residents of my floor who slept through it... Fire burned itself out after his trophies (written warnings, etc.) had finished burning. The kid would have been thrown out of school, but daddy paid cash for his tuition and donated a lot of $$ to the school. Hence, he had a lot of trophies and got away with it.

Stop sign. Not just the sign though, but the entire stop sign, pole, and 200 pounds of concrete were in the bathroom. Not just a normal sized one from in the city, but a big one from a highway meant to be seen from a distance. Oddly, after I took a shower with the stopsign in the morning, it disappeared 10 minutes later, without a trace. I never figured out where it went.

And the final thing that happened that night... The RA returned to the dorm, hand in hand with previously mentioned desireable member of the opposite sex, thinking "I'm getting lucky tonight!" Girl leaves dorm 3 minutes later as RA all but has a nervous breakdown.

I never found out who did the damage. As a result, the entire floor had to split the costs. I can't believe that there wasn't one of them who wanted to avoid paying 1/30th of the cost by giving names.

However, you have pictures of some pretty drawings on the wall and a chair duct taped to the wall? Pathetic.
Also, you say that some of them are going to be kicked out next year for the damages, and that seems all right to you? But, how will they be kicked out (and they should be) if no one comes forth to give the names?
The way I see it, if you see a crime being committed and you refuse to help police when they ask for help, you're just as bad as the people committing the crime. If they're really "friends", you can say to them, "you broke the window. Be a man and admit it to the RA... pay the consequences, probably pay for the window. But, I'm sure as he** not going to stand here and help pay for the window because you chose to be an idiot."

split the cost?? If i was on the floor and i was told split the cost i would hand you my lawyer business card and tell you good luck.Unless you have evidence that i did it you can't force me to pay the fine because someone did it on my floor. I guess none of those studetn ever talked to a lawyer or ever took a law class

 

[Ylen13]

Originally posted by: Glitchny
Ok for the last simester my hallmatesd have kinda been destroying the hallway and breaking windows being billigerent etc. I ahvent been involved and most of the time I try not to be ehre when it happens. But the other day i got a ticket for taking a shortcut on campus through a oneway road at 12am for all of 10 yards. The cop let me off of the tickets though because if he gave them to me i will lsoe my license.. 9 points.

thing is now the cops are arresting people in the hallway etc... so they want statments from people in the hall and the cheif of police told the officer that, if i dont help them to write me the tickets cause the officer has a year to do so. Even though all of the RA's have vouched for me they still wont let me off unless i help them out. IS it legal for them to use my ticket as blackmail like this? I dont want to rat out the guys in my hall but i dont have much of a choice. Its either rat them out or, lose my license + $650 dollar fine.... Is it legal for the police to do this? and Most of the guys in my hall have casued enough damage etc that they are getting kicked out next simester.

wow. they stopped you and let you go. Now they saying they will write you a ticket after the fact. Call a local lawyer and talk to him i don't think they can do that.

 

[Glitchny]

Originally posted by: Ylen13

Originally posted by: DrPizza
you went the wrong way... you admitted you were guilty. Therefore, you can get the ticket.

The cops decide that in return for information from you, they will drop the charges/ticket. Happens every day. That's business as usual. Ever hear of plea bargains? (in exchange for testimony against the leader, lower level people get a reduced sentence, etc.)

Nonetheless, I saw those pictures. You've gotta be kidding? That's damage??
While I was RA, in one night, while I was off to a movie with a hot girl on campus, the following happened:

250 pound bike rack hopelessly lodged in stairwell, damaging cinder blocks.

Bathroom drains stuffed/blocked... all showers and sinks turned on. West stairwell became a waterfall (and several rooms had up to 1 1/2 or 2 inches of water in them... apparently the building wasn't perfectly level, but 2 inches over 100 feet isn't too bad. Maybe they planned to have runoff in just such an event)

One kids door completely axed apart (I never found out who "axeman" was, but someone had that nickname the rest of the year; it was a secret guarded from me however.) Several other doors had axe damage.

30? 40? empty cans of shaving cream.

Bathroom stall... the entire bathroom stall... thrown through the huge window, destroying window frame and all.

Fire-alarm ripped from wall (this created an incident later when someone set my neighbors door on fire... the entire dorm evacuated except the residents of my floor who slept through it... Fire burned itself out after his trophies (written warnings, etc.) had finished burning. The kid would have been thrown out of school, but daddy paid cash for his tuition and donated a lot of $$ to the school. Hence, he had a lot of trophies and got away with it.

Stop sign. Not just the sign though, but the entire stop sign, pole, and 200 pounds of concrete were in the bathroom. Not just a normal sized one from in the city, but a big one from a highway meant to be seen from a distance. Oddly, after I took a shower with the stopsign in the morning, it disappeared 10 minutes later, without a trace. I never figured out where it went.

And the final thing that happened that night... The RA returned to the dorm, hand in hand with previously mentioned desireable member of the opposite sex, thinking "I'm getting lucky tonight!" Girl leaves dorm 3 minutes later as RA all but has a nervous breakdown.

I never found out who did the damage. As a result, the entire floor had to split the costs. I can't believe that there wasn't one of them who wanted to avoid paying 1/30th of the cost by giving names.

However, you have pictures of some pretty drawings on the wall and a chair duct taped to the wall? Pathetic.
Also, you say that some of them are going to be kicked out next year for the damages, and that seems all right to you? But, how will they be kicked out (and they should be) if no one comes forth to give the names?
The way I see it, if you see a crime being committed and you refuse to help police when they ask for help, you're just as bad as the people committing the crime. If they're really "friends", you can say to them, "you broke the window. Be a man and admit it to the RA... pay the consequences, probably pay for the window. But, I'm sure as he** not going to stand here and help pay for the window because you chose to be an idiot."

split the cost?? If i was on the floor and i was told split the cost i would hand you my lawyer business card and tell you good luck.Unless you have evidence that i did it you can't force me to pay the fine because someone did it on my floor. I guess none of those studetn ever talked to a lawyer or ever took a law class

The thing about splitting the cost is in our housing contract, which we had to sign to live there, so getting a lawyer doesnt really work out

 

[ZaneNBK]

Originally posted by: Glitchny

Originally posted by: ZaneNBK

Originally posted by: Glitchny
Ok for the last simester my hallmatesd have kinda been destroying the hallway and breaking windows being billigerent etc. I ahvent been involved and most of the time I try not to be ehre when it happens. But the other day i got a ticket for taking a shortcut on campus through a oneway road at 12am for all of 10 yards. The cop let me off of the tickets though because if he gave them to me i will lsoe my license.. 9 points.

thing is now the cops are arresting people in the hallway etc... so they want statments from people in the hall and the cheif of police told the officer that, if i dont help them to write me the tickets cause the officer has a year to do so. <snip...>

Damn, who has the secret decoder ring? ...or did someone slip something in my Diet Pepsi?

This is the most unintentionally nonsensical thing I think I've ever read here. 😛

well lets see read it and then when the letteres for some words are reversed... switch them back and there u go, english! u people spend more time yelling at othersd aobut the way they type then actually looking at their posts... If i wanted to type nicely i would but i obviously dont really care that much since i got the point across to most of the people that have responded.

I wasn't referring to your spelling or grammar. I was referring to the fact that thoughts seem to have been thrown in there at random. Nevermind. 🙂

 

[Glitchny]

Originally posted by: ZaneNBK

Originally posted by: Glitchny

Originally posted by: ZaneNBK

Originally posted by: Glitchny
Ok for the last simester my hallmatesd have kinda been destroying the hallway and breaking windows being billigerent etc. I ahvent been involved and most of the time I try not to be ehre when it happens. But the other day i got a ticket for taking a shortcut on campus through a oneway road at 12am for all of 10 yards. The cop let me off of the tickets though because if he gave them to me i will lsoe my license.. 9 points.

thing is now the cops are arresting people in the hallway etc... so they want statments from people in the hall and the cheif of police told the officer that, if i dont help them to write me the tickets cause the officer has a year to do so. <snip...>

Damn, who has the secret decoder ring? ...or did someone slip something in my Diet Pepsi?

This is the most unintentionally nonsensical thing I think I've ever read here. 😛

well lets see read it and then when the letteres for some words are reversed... switch them back and there u go, english! u people spend more time yelling at othersd aobut the way they type then actually looking at their posts... If i wanted to type nicely i would but i obviously dont really care that much since i got the point across to most of the people that have responded.

I wasn't referring to your spelling or grammar. I was referring to the fact that thoughts seem to have been thrown in there at random. Nevermind. 🙂

understandable, yet i had just gotten back from the police station and wasnt in the mood to organize everything, and i had hoped that u guys would be smart enough to figure iut out without making smart remarks

 

[her209]

Why are you protecting those people who have cause hundreds if not thousands of damage to your hallway. In the end, it will come back to bite you higher rent. Besides, those hoodlums are getting kicked out next semester, so wtf are you protecting their arsses.

 

[Mill]

If I am able to understand your post(which I seriously doubt because of the way it was written)it seems as if they are willing to dismiss the tickets in exchange for your cooperation. That is completely legal. Why would it not be? They have discretion when it comes to almost everything.

 

[Glitchny]

Originally posted by: Millennium
If I am able to understand your post(which I seriously doubt because of the way it was written)it seems as if they are willing to dismiss the tickets in exchange for your cooperation. That is completely legal. Why would it not be? They have discretion when it comes to almost everything.

i dunno just didnt seem right at the time but now i do see that it is legal jsut kinda annoying guess im going to avoid those tickets

 

[Ylen13]

Originally posted by: Millennium
If I am able to understand your post(which I seriously doubt because of the way it was written)it seems as if they are willing to dismiss the tickets in exchange for your cooperation. That is completely legal. Why would it not be? They have discretion when it comes to almost everything.

I personally read it differently so maybe he can clarify it. I understood it as they have not given him a ticket yet but threaten to give him one for that incident if he don?t' help them. So basically they didn't give him one on the day of the incident but threaten to give him one now

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Ylen13

Originally posted by: Millennium
If I am able to understand your post(which I seriously doubt because of the way it was written)it seems as if they are willing to dismiss the tickets in exchange for your cooperation. That is completely legal. Why would it not be? They have discretion when it comes to almost everything.

I personally read it differently so maybe he can clarify it. I understood it as they have not given him a ticket yet but threaten to give him one for that incident if he don?t' help them. So basically they didn't give him one on the day of the incident but threaten to give him one now

And that is simple discretion. More than likely there was a report made and the tickets not issued in lieu of him informing on the troublemakers.

 

[Glitchny]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Ylen13

Originally posted by: Millennium
If I am able to understand your post(which I seriously doubt because of the way it was written)it seems as if they are willing to dismiss the tickets in exchange for your cooperation. That is completely legal. Why would it not be? They have discretion when it comes to almost everything.

I personally read it differently so maybe he can clarify it. I understood it as they have not given him a ticket yet but threaten to give him one for that incident if he don?t' help them. So basically they didn't give him one on the day of the incident but threaten to give him one now

And that is simple discretion. More than likely there was a report made and the tickets not issued in lieu of him informing on the troublemakers.

yeah exactly

 

[Ylen13]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Ylen13

Originally posted by: Millennium
If I am able to understand your post(which I seriously doubt because of the way it was written)it seems as if they are willing to dismiss the tickets in exchange for your cooperation. That is completely legal. Why would it not be? They have discretion when it comes to almost everything.

I personally read it differently so maybe he can clarify it. I understood it as they have not given him a ticket yet but threaten to give him one for that incident if he don?t' help them. So basically they didn't give him one on the day of the incident but threaten to give him one now

And that is simple discretion. More than likely there was a report made and the tickets not issued in lieu of him informing on the troublemakers.

if the report was issued but they didn't write a ticket,i will guess the ticket is infraction(could be totally wrong) then it can only be issued at the scene and not any other time

 

[Glitchny]

the officer told me that he had a year to give me the ticket and other people on the forums have said that as well so I think he can give it to me if he wants to

 

[sharkeeper]

WTF is up with pancakes on heads as of late?!

-DAK-

 

[eakers]

at my school destruction like this in residences is never caused by the actual people who live there.

why would you want to destroy the place where you live?!

i know i wouldn't like to come home to see garbage all over the place.