Can someone prove to me (with benchmarks) that a Mac is faster than a PC??

NFS4

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I'm getting tired of this bullsh!t. I want some numbers damnit.

I was watching ZDTV and I nearly kicked Steve Jobbs in the head when he said that a G4 450 was three times faster than a PIII 1GHz machine.

WTF is he talking about? I hate it when people make claims and then don't explain them:|:|
 

xtreme2k

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well

they love benchmarking Macs with ATI and then PC with S3 Virge

they dont know how to do proper benchmarks

anyway
i guess they can only give u some HIGHLY G4 optimised Photoshop filters running on G4 with 2G of ram SCSI hdd and then using a NOT-as optimised filter on the P3 with 128MB of ram and some crappy 5400rpm hdd

then it might be 3x faster
 

NFS4

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<< Whats next which is better a banana or an orange? >>


What kinda dumb question is that?? J/K The orange is better of course ;)
 

paulerdos

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macs are faster than pc's for somethings (rc5, photoshop), and pc's are faster than macs for somethings (everything else hehe). so it's meaningless to say, &quot;A is faster than B,&quot; they're both better at something than the other.
 

NFS4

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<< so it's meaningless to say, &quot;A is faster than B,&quot; they're both better at something than the other. >>


So Steve Jobs needs to be shot ;)

 

NFS4

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I'll raise an eyebrow when a Mac machine can touch my machine in Quake 3, or any other game/app that I currently use for that matter (even with my SDR GeForce).

 

Modus

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The G4 is a fantastic processor and, by all accounts, it's faster than equivalently clocked x86 CPU's from AMD and Intel. The G4's only problem is that it lags behind in clock speed -- just breaking 500 MHz I believe. Motorola can't seem to ramp it up to save their lives.

The Mac OS is the only good thing about the Mac. It's stable, elegant, easy to use, and simple to maintain -- years ahead of Windows in the areas that matter. But again, this advantage is dulled because operating systems have been stagnating since the release of Windows 95. Interfaces (at least the traditional 2D GUI with a mouse and a keyboard) have neared perfection and true multitasking is limitted only by the power of the machine. Operating systems are a dime a dozen these days, and since most people already know Windows 9x (and since it is relatively easy to get a free copy) and the Mac only offers slight advantages over it, there is very little reason to jump in with Apple.

Software is another issue. To have access to the huge array of titles available on the PC, Macs require a clunky SoftWindows interface that dramatically reduces performance. Sure, all the major software is readily attainable for Macs, but the same could be said for Linux or BeOS -- you don't see many people adopting those operating systems.

Another vital flaw of the Mac platform is its inability to stay current with the latest 3D video and sound hardware. This is actually a very important criteria, because the only justification for buying a fast, modern computer (other than professional graphics rendering) is 3D gaming. No other process is so demanding on computer hardware. Anything else can be done with a fraction of the power boasted by today's machines. So without modern 3D hardware, the Mac platform is crippled in the one area that makes a smart buyer consider a modern PC. And we cannot blame 3D hardware developers for not wanting to tailor their solutions to a small minority of the market.

The last, most important disadvantage of the Mac platform? Price. Take an average PC, say an A/700, 128M, 20G, GF256, 17&quot;, and compare it on a bang-for-buck basis with an equivalently-priced Mac. Enough said.

That is, unless you run Mac Photoshop filters all day.

Modus
 

NFS4

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<< It's stable, elegant, easy to use, and simple to maintain -- years ahead of Windows in the areas that matter. >>


Hmmm, I'd say that Win2k is the best OS out there.


<< Another vital flaw of the Mac platform is its inability to stay current with the latest 3D video and sound hardware. >>


That shall change with the addition of the Radeon to the Mac's lineup.
 

Thor_Sevan

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Oula oula oula !!! :)

1. Mac sucks
2. Mac sucks
3. Mac sucks

Reasons ?

1. Mac sucks
2. Mac sucks
3. Mac sucks

More reasons ?

1. UGLY
2. MAC OS !! AHHH NO !!! :)
3. Stupid ATI video card and some crappy sound card

So in conlusion, Mac sucks !

Thor !!!! Bouhahaha ! :)LOL !

 

dvch

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Think Different-think backwards: thus all bench marks prove the Mac is superior! :p
 

Charles

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Mac and other new Apple products are beautiful and fashionable. They are designed to be used by Versace or DKNY not for hardware enthusiast. ;) I personally like their colors and designs. Not their hardwares.

MacOS X. Hmm. I'm very impressed. Try to watch the movie demo at apple.com You'll like it...
 

paulerdos

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NFS4: Hmmm, I'd say that Win2k is the best OS out there.

um... come again? any *nix OS is better than w2k, unless you're gaming, in which case you'd use w98 anyhow...
 

NFS4

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paulerdos, don't give me that *nix crap. The world revolves around Windows 9x, WinNT, Win2k.

Can *nix run all of my apps? Hell no. Can it run all of my games. Hell Hell no. Can it run all of my DVD software and support my video card properly? No. Will it support my Winmodem? Prolly not. Will it support my 7 USB devices? Hell no.

Does Win2k do all of the above? HELL YES!!!!!!!!

Until *nix can run all of my apps and hardware with no problems, it will be a steaming hot pile of sh!t to me.

 

Mday

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&quot;The world revolves around Windows 9x, WinNT, Win2k.&quot;

Yeah, hopefully the sun will burn the first and second up... :p
 

ForeverSilky

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Jobs is just doing his usual PR bullshit. He knows a G4 450 can't even hold a P3 1ghz's jock. But it's amazing to see how all G4 users think their cpu can beat a 1ghz x86 cpu. Steve has done a good job convincing them of that.