Can someone help me understand thinking that obesity is ok?

[TechBoyJK]

Some pretty bad facebook discussions brought out the shitlord in me today.

So many content with being obese and thinking it's not a problem.

Oh, I have aids. It's ok. Not a big deal.

Oh, I have diabetes. It's ok. Not a big deal.

Oh, I have obesity. It's ok. Not a big deal.

This is what I see when someone who's obese tells me it's perfectly ok and there's nothing to fix.

 

[mmntech]

Because our culture would rather embrace victimhood than actually solve self inflicted problems. That would be too hard.

 

[GeekDrew]

Who gives a damn? Perhaps you should propose solutions that will work for everyone, without exception, if it bothers you.

 

[Jaskalas]

Who gives a damn? Perhaps you should propose solutions that will work for everyone, without exception, if it bothers you.

Forced medical intervention / imprisonment? :whiste:

 

[feralkid]

Let's all hate on some fatties.

 

[boomerang]

Parody thread? (I shouldn't have to ask...)

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Who gives a damn? Perhaps you should propose solutions that will work for everyone, without exception, if it bothers you.

Eat less and exercise.

You don't even need to exercise if you just eat less

 

[Aikouka]

I think there's a sort of mixed message out there. The usual response is that you should "love who you are", but I think people tend to mix that up with that you should never change anything about yourself. Boogie2988 (the guy that does the Francis rage videos on YouTube) recently posted a video about supposedly being a "fat enabler". To boil it down, he's a big guy, and he stated that while you should definitely love yourself, you should do your best to not end up like him because of the health complications and such, and I think that's the right type of message to promote. Believe it or not, treating fat people like shit is not great motivation -- this isn't boot camp.

 

[TechBoyJK]

I think there's a sort of mixed message out there. The usual response is that you should "love who you are", but I think people tend to mix that up with that you should never change anything about yourself. Boogie2988 (the guy that does the Francis rage videos on YouTube) recently posted a video about supposedly being a "fat enabler". To boil it down, he's a big guy, and he stated that while you should definitely love yourself, you should do your best to not end up like him because of the health complications and such, and I think that's the right type of message to promote. Believe it or not, treating fat people like shit is not great motivation -- this isn't boot camp.

to me coddling an obese person when they need a swift kick in the ass is passively treating them like shit. You just don't care enough to tell them how it really is. Your house is on fire, but it's ok. It's just really warm for a while.

 

[feralkid]

to me coddling an obese person when they need a swift kick in the ass is passively treating them like shit. You just don't care enough to tell them how it really is. Your house is on fire, but it's ok. It's just really warm for a while.

We need to stigmatize others in order to help them.

Thank you, you are one fine human being.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

to me coddling an obese person when they need a swift kick in the ass is passively treating them like shit. You just don't care enough to tell them how it really is. Your house is on fire, but it's ok. It's just really warm for a while.

If you're serious about helping them, you'll realize that the vast majority of people don't respond positively to a kick in the ass, especially from a complete stranger. If someone found out about an aspect of your life that you would be objectively better off if you changed, but then presented it in the form of "aren't you ashamed for how shitty you are," you'd ignore them, even if they were objectively correct. You can't shame people into better habits. It doesn't work.

 

[TechBoyJK]

We need to stigmatize others in order to help them.

Thank you, you are one fine human being.

To be clear, I'm speaking of situations, kind of like an out of control alcoholic, where an intervention is clearly needed. The tactics used will vary from person to person, but there comes a point where an intervention is needed, and not doing so is more harmful than rubbing them the wrong way.

Also, if you don't know them.. then of course your opinion doesn't mean shit to them. I'm talking about friends/family.

 

[TechBoyJK]

We need to stigmatize others in order to help them.

Thank you, you are one fine human being.

Yes, sometimes that is exactly what is needed. Not all times, but yes, sometimes it takes courage to admit pussyfooting around a bad situation isn't helping.

 

[Platypus]

you sure have a wicked hard on for hating on fat people

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Who gives a damn? Perhaps you should propose solutions that will work for everyone, without exception, if it bothers you.

How many problems can be solved for everyone, without exception?

 

[MongGrel]

Parody thread? (I shouldn't have to ask...)

Apparently.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Let's be honest, there does seem to be a "I'm morbidly obese and that's ok" attitude going around these days. It's actually not ok to be morbidly obese and people and the media should not be encouraging it. Sure, don't shame then but at the same time don't say crap like "you're beautiful" to them. Being morbidly obese is a serious health risk and you're not helping them by giving them positive feedback about their weight.

 

[Perknose]

How many problems can be solved for everyone, without exception?

None or almost none, which was the point of his post.

As for the OP, JC on a stick, you're one shallow, ignorant twerp.

Can you help me understand why you think your loud-mouthed ignorance is ok?

 

[purbeast0]

Who gives a damn? Perhaps you should propose solutions that will work for everyone, without exception, if it bothers you.

are you serious? there is a very fucking simple solution that will 100% work for everybody. and everybody already knows the solution they are just too fat and lazy to do it.

 

[Platypus]

Can you help me understand why you think your loud-mouthed ignorance is ok?

Hey, you can actually do stuff about that you know

 

[Nograts]

A fellow shitlord!

Obesity costs the taxpayers money for selfish decisions.

That alone makes it not okay.

This fat acceptance movement is like encouraging meth addicts to love themselves and not worry about quitting.

Stop stuffing your fucking face and get off your ass.

 

[artemicion]

A fellow shitlord!

Obesity costs the taxpayers money for selfish decisions.

That alone makes it not okay.

This fat acceptance movement is like encouraging meth addicts to love themselves and not worry about quitting.

Stop stuffing your fucking face and get off your ass.

What's wrong with method acting???

Edit: Damn, you fixed it ^^

 

[HamburgerBoy]

None or almost none, which was the point of his post.

As for the OP, JC on a stick, you're one shallow, ignorant twerp.

Can you help me understand why you think your loud-mouthed ignorance is ok?

It's a point without justification. Now that I know he accepts that very few problems have solutions for everyone, the question becomes why they someone should be expected to provide a solution for everyone. If 95% of obese people could become non-obese through simple calorie counting, it's obviously not a solution for the 5% with severe hormonal issues. It's still a good solution, for most people.

 

[bradley]

Shaming or quilting people into good health just compounds their problem. If one truly cared, instead empower others toward positive change with basic exercise and nutritional information.

I know it's tough, but learning from the successes and failures of others is empowering in itself. Then take these learned principles and apply them to yourself. Stereotyping people is the sign of a very weak mind.

Yet there is a far more pragmatic and selfish/indifferent approach. The greater amount of these unhealthy people surrounding us the less competitive the atmosphere. Why would anyone negatively give such a fuck about other people? What purpose does it serve??

But then, passive-aggressive people always pretend their motives are ignoble. These same people often ridicule the very things they see (yet ignore) in themselves.

Again, if you can't do at least 40 pushups and 40 pullups and run 1.5 miles, you need to stfu.

Take those wasted moments thinking mostly about others and start turning them into opportunities for yourself. Otherwise the more big, strong, educated and focused (your true competition) will exploit your weak lazy mind and eat you fucking whole.

 

[artemicion]

Unless Tony Horton is posting in this thread, I'm pretty sure everybody in here has sub-optimal health practices. Personally, I think people have the right to do whatever the F they want with their life without other people nagging them to eat less hamburgers or run more marathons.

I'm overweight by medical BMI standards but not morbidly obese. I exercise about as much as I want to. I don't suffer from any tangible medical conditions as a result of my weight. I'm happy with my weight and my appearance, and frankly I don't give a rat's a$$ if you think I should eat less and exercise more because it'll extend my life by X number of years. I'd rather live 60 years eating steak and hamburgers than munch kale and quinoa every day just so I can see what years 60 through 90 are like.