Can someone help me choose between Athlon 64 3400+ & Athlon 64 3000+

[starwars7]

I'm trying to compare these two CPU's. I found them for a very simmilar price:

Athlon 64 3400+ 2200 MHz 512 KiB 64$ OEM
HT: 800 MHz
Multiplier: 11x
1.35/1.40 V 67 W
Socket 939
ADA3400DAA4BZ

VS

Athlon 64 3000+ 1800 MHz 512 KiB 64$ Retail
HT: 1000 MHz
Multiplier 9x
1.35/1.40 V 67 W
Socket 939
ADA3000DAA4BP

I found them for the same price but I'm having a hard time evaluating the two. I do intend to OC.

Will the CPU with a HTT of 800 work on the same MOBO's as the one that has a HTT of 1000? I'm looking at the Biostar TFORCE 6100

 

[Bobthelost]

It's a typo. Get the first one if you're not using the stock heatsink.

 

[starwars7]

are you sure it's a typo, wikipedia has it listed here and a couple others at the 800 HTT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Athlon_64_microprocessors

They note that it was a "The Socket 939 3400+ (both Newcastle and Venice versions) is an OEM-only chip and was never directly available from AMD. It shares all Socket 939 3500+ characteristics with the exception of the 800 MHz HyperTransport Link." The one I found is on Ebay from a PC pull before sale.

But I guess even if that's the case, it would probably still be a good deal. I just don't know how the 800 vs 1000 would effect over clocking.

 

[Bobthelost]

Well then, i may be wrong.

 

[starwars7]

do you have a sense of how the 800 htt would effect OC? or the MOBO?

 

[Bobthelost]

As far as i know it won't. The HTT buss is not nearly saturated with 939 systems and I don't think it'll be any worse for OCing than any other chip (hell, probably got more HTT headroom than most). Then again i've never even heard of it before this so you might want to keep bumping this till someone who knows more than me turns up. Good luck.

 

[Atheus]

You can easily overclock the HT bus to 1000, even 1200 or 1400Mhz, so it doesn't matter.

You know one of those comes with a heatsink, and the other not, right?

BTW - I am not at all sure about that Biostar board for overclocking. And 754 is a completely dead end platform, does not support dual channel, and will decrease your performance even it stock speeds.

 

[starwars7]

Cool, thanks, yeah, they are both 939, I linked the wrong MOBO, should be fixed now. Is there another cheap MOBO you know of that would OC well?

I'm trying to build a very basic pc for hosting music files and playing movies in the living room.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: starwars7
Cool, thanks, yeah, they are both 939, I linked the wrong MOBO, should be fixed now. Is there another cheap MOBO you know of that would OC well?

'Cheap' and 'OC well' do not go together.

I'm trying to build a very basic pc for hosting music files and playing movies in the living room.

Why on earth are you overclocking then? Get any old machine. I have a 1.6Ghz AMD duron doing that job - the total worth of the hardware in it is like £100.

 

[starwars7]

Yeah you're right, I understand that these low budget MOBO's won't OC very, is there a Solid less expensive MOBO that you know of? Something reliable that will get the job done.

I guess the reason I want to actually build this guy instead of buying an old used PC is because I enjoy building them. And I've got a 400w PSU and 1 GIG of PC3200 sitting around collecting dust that I'll be using. My target price is under $250 when it's all done. I posted it in the general forum last night before I found this other CPU deal. Here is the link to the general forums thread I had Link

 

[Mogadon]

Is $75 less expensive enough?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi...x&Submit=ENE&N=0&Ntk=all&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

 

[starwars7]

I see you're a fan of the EPoX line. The link you had wasn't for a specific board, were you looking at the EPoX EP-9NPA3ULTRA Socket 939?

 

[customcoms]

Thats the $75 board. Epox makes a good value board and probably the best for your existing components. DFI has better boards in the price range (under $100) but they require 480+ watt psu's to get support.