Can someone explain to me why all of a sudden the news is showing concern for this douchebag?

amdhunter

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I searched, so forgive me if this topic is already being discussed, but this pisses me off big time.

Story Here.

Long story short, this man killed a young kid in Midtown Manhattan, and a manhunt ensued.

After the various news agencies finally ID'd this thug, the man killed himself.

Soon after, it was found out that he was an Army reservist, and all of a sudden, all the news agencies seemed more interested in making the murderer's story one of a tragedy, and the news of the victim was sent to the backburner.

That just irked me, him being part of the military should not have any influence on how his death was perceived. He is a cold-blooded killer, and him being in the military most likely made him the uncaring killing machine that he is.

I hate the fact that the media is starting to all of a sudden consider this murderers death as tragic. It is NOT tragic, it was a perfect end to a life that should have been taken the moment he decided to stab a kid 4 times in less than 10 seconds.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: amdhunter
He is a cold-blooded killer, and him being in the military most likely made him the uncaring killing machine that he is.
Being hoodwinked into an insane war of conquest under the guise of defending our freedom almost certainly made him an uncaring killing machine. As long as we keep fucking with peoples heads like that, we can only blame ourselves for the fact that some of them crack.
 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: amdhunter
He is a cold-blooded killer, and him being in the military most likely made him the uncaring killing machine that he is.
Being hoodwinked into an insane war of conquest under the guise of defending our freedom almost certainly made him an uncaring killing machine. As long as we keep fucking with peoples heads like that, we can only blame ourselves for the fact that some of them crack.

This thread's going places. Carry on...
 

Moonbeam

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You only have to look at his eyes to see he has suffered from extreme and debilitating racial prejudice. Probably that why there's some understanding.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You only have to look at his eyes to see he has suffered from extreme and debilitating racial prejudice. Probably that why there's some understanding.

Your blatent disregard for mayonnaise flattery is beginning to work on my nerves.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You only have to look at his eyes to see he has suffered from extreme and debilitating racial prejudice. Probably that why there's some understanding.

Your blatent disregard for mayonnaise flattery is beginning to work on my nerves.

This was the best I could find for you:

Ode to mayonnaise

Waking up in the morning, I find you there at the breakfast table,

A dollop atop by canned peas and corn.

At lunch, you glisten off of my plate of meat dumplings.

You line my stomach with enough slippery, caloric goodness to run 1,000 miles.

We meet again each supper.

You coat my beet, meat and cabbage salad.

Mayonnaise, you are the mortar that holds together the Russian Food Pyramid.

While the country?s Nouveau Riche trade you in for paté and pesto,

you?ve held your ground in the pantries of Siberia.

As my time in Russia rapidly draws to a close,

I know you will stick with me in the mind - if not the arteries.
 

Rhonda the Sly

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He could have had any number of psychological problems (PTSD is popular these days). People ending military duty sometimes aquire issues from the stressful and horrific experiences. It can be a problem. If it's a psychological disorder it makes the murder more understandable (though not forgivable or an appropriate action) and points to a larger problem we have with not helping our militarymen.

First I've heard of this story, btw.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Rhonda the Sly
He could have had any number of psychological problems (PTSD is popular these days). People ending military duty sometimes aquire issues from the stressful and horrific experiences. It can be a problem. If it's a psychological disorder it makes the murder more understandable (though not forgivable or an appropriate action) and points to a larger problem we have with not helping our militarymen.

First I've heard of this story, btw.

We can only hope that they sympathy isn't being exaggerated and the OP isn't ginning up a phony issue.
 

Skitzer

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You only have to look at his eyes to see he has suffered from extreme and debilitating racial prejudice. Probably that why there's some understanding.

Your blatent disregard for mayonnaise flattery is beginning to work on my nerves.

This was the best I could find for you:

Ode to mayonnaise

Waking up in the morning, I find you there at the breakfast table,

A dollop atop by canned peas and corn.

At lunch, you glisten off of my plate of meat dumplings.

You line my stomach with enough slippery, caloric goodness to run 1,000 miles.

We meet again each supper.

You coat my beet, meat and cabbage salad.

Mayonnaise, you are the mortar that holds together the Russian Food Pyramid.

While the country?s Nouveau Riche trade you in for paté and pesto,

you?ve held your ground in the pantries of Siberia.

As my time in Russia rapidly draws to a close,

I know you will stick with me in the mind - if not the arteries.

I love Mayo ..... I know it's not good for me but I can't help it. :heart:
Now Miracle Whip ............ I can live without that shit!! :thumbsdown:
 

Skitzer

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Rhonda the Sly
He could have had any number of psychological problems (PTSD is popular these days). People ending military duty sometimes aquire issues from the stressful and horrific experiences. It can be a problem. If it's a psychological disorder it makes the murder more understandable (though not forgivable or an appropriate action) and points to a larger problem we have with not helping our militarymen.

First I've heard of this story, btw.

We can only hope that they sympathy isn't being exaggerated and the OP isn't ginning up a phony issue.

Ooooops .... didn't realize this was a serious thread ..... my apologies to whoever was offended.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You only have to look at his eyes to see he has suffered from extreme and debilitating racial prejudice. Probably that why there's some understanding.

Your blatent disregard for mayonnaise flattery is beginning to work on my nerves.

so lets get this straight..my friend Moonbeam is getting on your nerves...ok thats 1 of you and 1 Moonbeam....

So how many hundreds of people`s nerves have you been on...

okay so thats 1 of you and 100`s of other people....
 

Oceandevi

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You only have to look at his eyes to see he has suffered from extreme and debilitating racial prejudice. Probably that why there's some understanding.

Your blatent disregard for mayonnaise flattery is beginning to work on my nerves.

so lets get this straight..my friend Moonbeam is getting on your nerves...ok thats 1 of you and 1 Moonbeam....

So how many hundreds of people`s nerves have you been on...

okay so thats 1 of you and 100`s of other people....

You must be a mustard guy.
 

IceBergSLiM

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Misleading...

THe story is the kid he stabbed squared up to fight him. This wasn't a random I'm gonna kill someone thing. Not that it was justified either but....there is less of "innocent victim" in it.

They were both douchebags and now they are both dead. One happened to be a confused and mentally unstable war veteran. And yes he was a cold blooded killer, one that happened to be confused and mentally unstable and trained by the military.
 

Moonbeam

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Just in case folk are worried, I want everybody to know I'm OK. The Mayo thingi, which at first wounded me deeply and almost caused me to take my life, has abated slightly, sufficient that I think I will choose to live, and I think for the reason that, although I knew it was deadly, is because I don't have any fucking idea what he meant.
 
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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: amdhunter
He is a cold-blooded killer, and him being in the military most likely made him the uncaring killing machine that he is.
Being hoodwinked into an insane war of conquest under the guise of defending our freedom almost certainly made him an uncaring killing machine. As long as we keep fucking with peoples heads like that, we can only blame ourselves for the fact that some of them crack.

This thread's going places. Carry on...

Yeah, no sheit my friend.... All is well, i hope?
 

Grunt03

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Just another thug, being in the military does has nonething to do with the crime at hand.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Grunt03
Just another thug, being in the military does has nonething to do with the crime at hand.

You must not have looked at his eyes.
 

datalink7

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Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: amdhunter
He is a cold-blooded killer, and him being in the military most likely made him the uncaring killing machine that he is.
Being hoodwinked into an insane war of conquest under the guise of defending our freedom almost certainly made him an uncaring killing machine. As long as we keep fucking with peoples heads like that, we can only blame ourselves for the fact that some of them crack.

Yeah I didn't acquire my taste for baby's until I went to Iraq. But let me tell you, they sure do taste good!
:roll:

 

JD50

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: amdhunter
He is a cold-blooded killer, and him being in the military most likely made him the uncaring killing machine that he is.
Being hoodwinked into an insane war of conquest under the guise of defending our freedom almost certainly made him an uncaring killing machine. As long as we keep fucking with peoples heads like that, we can only blame ourselves for the fact that some of them crack.

Yeah I didn't acquire my taste for baby's until I went to Iraq. But let me tell you, they sure do taste good!
:roll:

Ignore them both, amdhunter drives a yellow car and kylebisme is a truther so obviously they're both idiots.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: JD50

Ignore them both, amdhunter drives a yellow car and kylebisme is a truther so obviously they're both idiots.
amdhunter drives a Cab?

 

JSt0rm

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: amdhunter
He is a cold-blooded killer, and him being in the military most likely made him the uncaring killing machine that he is.
Being hoodwinked into an insane war of conquest under the guise of defending our freedom almost certainly made him an uncaring killing machine. As long as we keep fucking with peoples heads like that, we can only blame ourselves for the fact that some of them crack.

Yeah I didn't acquire my taste for baby's until I went to Iraq. But let me tell you, they sure do taste good!
:roll:

well if they were basted in their own fat they probably would be good.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: amdhunter
He is a cold-blooded killer, and him being in the military most likely made him the uncaring killing machine that he is.
Being hoodwinked into an insane war of conquest under the guise of defending our freedom almost certainly made him an uncaring killing machine. As long as we keep fucking with peoples heads like that, we can only blame ourselves for the fact that some of them crack.

Yeah I didn't acquire my taste for baby's until I went to Iraq. But let me tell you, they sure do taste good!
:roll:

well if they were basted in their own fat they probably would be good.
I bet you think you are clever,well you're not.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Yeah, no sheit my friend.... All is well, i hope?
If that was intended for me, yes all is well. I hope you understand that have no doubt that your intent is be your best for Great Britain, and I respect your service. While I am often hostile in responding to you, this is only because that is how you generally make your approach, and I tend to respond to people in the tone they choose to take with me. I hold no personal hostility towards you though, and while we tend to differ in opinions, I mean well for you as much as anyone.

Originally posted by: Grunt03
Just another thug, being in the military does has nonething to do with the crime at hand.

Originally posted by: datalink7
Yeah I didn't acquire my taste for baby's until I went to Iraq. But let me tell you, they sure do taste good!
Please understand that I hold great respect for all of you who dedicate your lives to serve our nation, and mean you no offence with my comments.

That said, I'm guessing you know well that war can be hard on a man, and while many of you are strong enough to endure such hardship, inevitably some crack. I grew up an Army brat, and my father was PM of Kuwait City during Desert Storm, and of Ft. Bliss after. So I watched first hand as the crime rates among troops went up after the war, and saw some crazy shit go down. Furthermore, that was a war we were in and out of in a flash, and went in with a much clearer purpose than the battles we are currently embroiled in. I also have friend who served in this conflict, and while I do believe his service made him a better man in many regards, it also left him with PTSD.

So, while I can understand that some are averse to acknowledging any possibility of connection between the murder/suicide and the perpetrator's service, I hope you can respect my reasoning for suggesting otherwise. The question of the OP was as to why the media is showing empathy for the criminal here, and I believe it is because they acknowledge a connection too.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: JD50
Ignore them both, amdhunter drives a yellow car and kylebisme is a truther so obviously they're both idiots.
No man, I figured out the physics of 9/11 with the help of this video.

So I'm on your side with that now. ;)
 

amdhunter

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: JD50

Ignore them both, amdhunter drives a yellow car and kylebisme is a truther so obviously they're both idiots.
amdhunter drives a Cab?

Better than being a truther...even I hate those guys.