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Can someone explain this road design to me?

iamwiz82

iamwiz82

Lifer
The freeway in question

Note how I70 comes north from the bottom of that page, hits Lincoln Ave, and then restarts 1000 feet to the east to continue west? 😕

The directions I have actually tell you to get off the freeway and then get back on .2 mile later to continue on I70.
 
Originally posted by: mobobuff
I70 basically attempts to merge into both US30 and I76, and that's where it ends.

Where are you confused?
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😕

I70 never ends. It ends up going west, so why not just curve it instead of running it into that road, making it a surface street, and then restarting the freeway a few hundred feet east so you can go west?
 
I-70 becomes part of I-76 going west. That map makes it appear as though I-70 ends, but it does not.

This is why the road configuration there is so strange: the economy of Breezewood is 90% dependent on all those cars who get off the Interstates and buy gas, stop to eat, etc. If they fixed it so you could smoothly transition between I-76 and I-70 (or to stay on I-70, for that matter), hundreds of jobs would be lost.

Once you go through that little stretch of Rt. 30, you'll see what I mean. It's one restaurant and gas station after another.
 
Originally posted by: kranky
I-70 becomes part of I-76 going west. That map makes it appear as though I-70 ends, but it does not.

This is why the road configuration there is so strange: the economy of Breezewood is 90% dependent on all those cars who get off the Interstates and buy gas, stop to eat, etc. If they fixed it so you could smoothly transition between I-76 and I-70 (or to stay on I-70, for that matter), hundreds of jobs would be lost.

Once you go through that little stretch of Rt. 30, you'll see what I mean. It's one restaurant and gas station after another.
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Breezewood was the first thing that came to my mind as well when I read the OP. That place is a boondoggle of the highest order.
 
I must admit, I found having exits from a freeway on the left on the Florida Turnpike was just NUTS. You have to traverse high speed traffic to exit. 😕 x11ty
 
Originally posted by: kranky
I-70 becomes part of I-76 going west. That map makes it appear as though I-70 ends, but it does not.

This is why the road configuration there is so strange: the economy of Breezewood is 90% dependent on all those cars who get off the Interstates and buy gas, stop to eat, etc. If they fixed it so you could smoothly transition between I-76 and I-70 (or to stay on I-70, for that matter), hundreds of jobs would be lost.

Once you go through that little stretch of Rt. 30, you'll see what I mean. It's one restaurant and gas station after another.
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So someone in Breezewood slipped Dwight Eisenhower a few bucks, eh? 😛
 
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
I must admit, I found having exits from a freeway on the left on the Florida Turnpike was just NUTS. You have to traverse high speed traffic to exit. 😕 x11ty
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That's not that uncommon due to the logistics of running a freeway through urbanized areas. There was a really scary one near our first apartment that forced you to take a very tight turn and then merge onto the freeway in the fast lane. The best part was that the turn was in such a way that those on the freeway would have only 1-2 seconds to react to a car merging at 25mph.
 
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
I must admit, I found having exits from a freeway on the left on the Florida Turnpike was just NUTS. You have to traverse high speed traffic to exit. 😕 x11ty
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That's not that uncommon due to the logistics of running a freeway through urbanized areas. There was a really scary one near our first apartment that forced you to take a very tight turn and then merge onto the freeway in the fast lane. The best part was that the turn was in such a way that those on the freeway would have only 1-2 seconds to react to a car merging at 25mph.
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Well I can, almost understand that, but not Here. Elevated section for 100ft> Exiting and entering the TP into high speed traffic.

There are NO exits on the right in the UK and we have more than our fair share of urban areas with highways through them. Example!
 
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
I must admit, I found having exits from a freeway on the left on the Florida Turnpike was just NUTS. You have to traverse high speed traffic to exit. 😕 x11ty
Click to expand...

That's not that uncommon due to the logistics of running a freeway through urbanized areas. There was a really scary one near our first apartment that forced you to take a very tight turn and then merge onto the freeway in the fast lane. The best part was that the turn was in such a way that those on the freeway would have only 1-2 seconds to react to a car merging at 25mph.
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Well I can, almost understand that, but not Here. Elevated section for 100ft> Exiting and entering the TP into high speed traffic.

There are NO exits on the right in the UK and we have more than our fair share of urban areas with highways through them. Example!
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That's a rest area, it looks like. It is cheaper to build one massive area than two smaller ones on either side of the freeway. Plus, they may not have owned that land on either side.
 
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
I must admit, I found having exits from a freeway on the left on the Florida Turnpike was just NUTS. You have to traverse high speed traffic to exit. 😕 x11ty
Click to expand...

That's not that uncommon due to the logistics of running a freeway through urbanized areas. There was a really scary one near our first apartment that forced you to take a very tight turn and then merge onto the freeway in the fast lane. The best part was that the turn was in such a way that those on the freeway would have only 1-2 seconds to react to a car merging at 25mph.
Click to expand...

Well I can, almost understand that, but not Here. Elevated section for 100ft> Exiting and entering the TP into high speed traffic.

There are NO exits on the right in the UK and we have more than our fair share of urban areas with highways through them. Example!
Click to expand...

That's a rest area, it looks like. It is cheaper to build one massive area than two smaller ones on either side of the freeway. Plus, they may not have owned that land on either side.
Click to expand...

I know it's a rest area, it was the only location I could find on the road in a hurry like that. I used this rest area as it happens. Just as well the Avalon I was driving was kinda punchy. I'd hate to exit there in a Smart...

As for ownership, for the safety of all they should have bought 2 acres either side and built proper ramps to the centre. IMHO.
 
Over the years there has been talk of "fixing" the Breezewood configuration but because the locals don't want it, it won't happen.

Pittsburgh has a couple of places where traffic coming onto an Interstate merges from the left, and one especially scary place where I-376 East is two lanes. One on-ramp merges in from the left, and 300 feet later another on-ramp merges in from the right, and 2000 feet after that is an exit on the right (the exit is off the edge of the linked map).
 
Seriously - I just had to deal with Breezewood last fall when I went to Altoona - My Yahoo Maps directions were not correct, and the whole intersection with the turnpike was a huge clusterf*ck.
 
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
I must admit, I found having exits from a freeway on the left on the Florida Turnpike was just NUTS. You have to traverse high speed traffic to exit. 😕 x11ty
Click to expand...

That's not that uncommon due to the logistics of running a freeway through urbanized areas. There was a really scary one near our first apartment that forced you to take a very tight turn and then merge onto the freeway in the fast lane. The best part was that the turn was in such a way that those on the freeway would have only 1-2 seconds to react to a car merging at 25mph.
Click to expand...

Well I can, almost understand that, but not Here. Elevated section for 100ft> Exiting and entering the TP into high speed traffic.

There are NO exits on the right in the UK and we have more than our fair share of urban areas with highways through them. Example!
Click to expand...

That's a rest area, it looks like. It is cheaper to build one massive area than two smaller ones on either side of the freeway. Plus, they may not have owned that land on either side.
Click to expand...

I know it's a rest area, it was the only location I could find on the road in a hurry like that. I used this rest area as it happens. Just as well the Avalon I was driving was kinda punchy. I'd hate to exit there in a Smart...

As for ownership, for the safety of all they should have bought 2 acres either side and built proper ramps to the centre. IMHO.
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Don't wonder why we need power in the US 😉
 
approximately 10 miles west in that map and you will see I-99, it shouldn't be there or labeled as such, I99 should be east of I-95, or at least be some sort of coastal highway, but no, it's in the middle of nowhere, Pennsylvania.
 
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
I must admit, I found having exits from a freeway on the left on the Florida Turnpike was just NUTS. You have to traverse high speed traffic to exit. 😕 x11ty
Click to expand...

That's not that uncommon due to the logistics of running a freeway through urbanized areas. There was a really scary one near our first apartment that forced you to take a very tight turn and then merge onto the freeway in the fast lane. The best part was that the turn was in such a way that those on the freeway would have only 1-2 seconds to react to a car merging at 25mph.
Click to expand...

Well I can, almost understand that, but not Here. Elevated section for 100ft> Exiting and entering the TP into high speed traffic.

There are NO exits on the right in the UK and we have more than our fair share of urban areas with highways through them. Example!
Click to expand...

That's a rest area, it looks like. It is cheaper to build one massive area than two smaller ones on either side of the freeway. Plus, they may not have owned that land on either side.
Click to expand...

I know it's a rest area, it was the only location I could find on the road in a hurry like that. I used this rest area as it happens. Just as well the Avalon I was driving was kinda punchy. I'd hate to exit there in a Smart...

As for ownership, for the safety of all they should have bought 2 acres either side and built proper ramps to the centre. IMHO.
Click to expand...

Don't wonder why we need power in the US 😉
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I should have brought my own car with me. 😛
 
Originally posted by: EKKC
approximately 10 miles west in that map and you will see I-99, it shouldn't be there or labeled as such, I99 should be east of I-95, or at least be some sort of coastal highway, but no, it's in the middle of nowhere, Pennsylvania.
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interstate numbers increase west to east, and the north-south routes are odd. thus, I-95 is fitting.
 
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: EKKC
approximately 10 miles west in that map and you will see I-99, it shouldn't be there or labeled as such, I99 should be east of I-95, or at least be some sort of coastal highway, but no, it's in the middle of nowhere, Pennsylvania.
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interstate numbers increase west to east, and the north-south routes are odd. thus, I-95 is fitting.
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Wha, no. I-75 is west of I-95, makes sense. Likewise, I-95 should be west of I-99, putting I-99 somewhere in the Atlantic ocean, but nooooo, it's in Pennsylvania...

WTF? I-70 merges with US 30 and becomes at-grade? Doesn't that make it not an interstate?
 
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