Ns1
No Lifer
yeah who needs a dealer that puts heroin in your joint when you can find a dealer that puts heroin in your heroin.
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Can someone explain the weed thing to me please?
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yeah who needs a dealer that puts heroin in your joint when you can find a dealer that puts heroin in your heroin.
mindless1
Diamond Member
No I didn't, but "tied" is a weaker relationship than you want to assume. While I don't use heroin, I know lots of people who did or still do. They're not ex-script users, 'except maybe if they stole some of mom's pills once upon a year(s) ago.
More like contrived surveys aimed at placing blame. One person in 5 says they started with a prescription and it sticks in your mind, but the other 4 people didn't state that.
I must've been in grade school when I learned that opiates were addictive. That was a LONG time ago. Kids hooked on heroin today weren't alive yet.
It could only get to be this way because people chose to take opiates. Don't blame the law for individual choice. Don't pick a snake up if you don't want to get bit.
Most of the kids doing heroin aren't a part of the lovey surveys concocted to place blame. Most have no insurance, haven't seen a doctor in years... maybe an emergency room doc.
Good one considering I live in city of 300k and in a metro area of 2 million. On top of it I sold every drug from weed to heroin in my young and dumb days. Guess what even then I wasn't stupid enough to waste heroin putting it in weed. For one it wouldn't do me any good, people stay coming back for more regular weed, they don't want bullshit in their weed they'd stop coming to me. Second putting heroin in weed would just waste the heroin, weed burns too hot, just like lacing weed with coke it wastes most of the coke.
Check out my link above, once again your living up to your username. Fertilizers might be good for making a plant grow but guess what they are still chemicals and not the nutrients we need, not that I'm trying to get nutrients from pot. Modern crops have less nutrients in them because the fields are all burnt out of real nutrients and keep going on just the shit the plants need to grow aka fertilizer.
Thebobo
Lifer
Sketchy circle of friends? Seriously? You sound like a throwback to the reefer madness days.
Living is a gateway to everything.
Squisher
Lifer
Good luck trying to sell weed that is chemically laced in Michigan. Around here all the dispensaries test the weed and if it's tainted they'll call all their buddies at all the other dispensaries and you'll be on a list. If you sell to private sellers you might get away with it.
I might have linked the wrong article, I read another from high times recently that said the testing is BS or rigged.
Ns1
No Lifer
"chemically laced" and "grown using chemicals" are not the same thing.
chemically laced refers to tales of putting a different drug (coke, PCP, RAID) on top of weed
grown using chemicals is just reality. even the organic guys, when you add a whole shitload of bat guano to your grow you're just using organic chemicals.
chemically laced refers to tales of putting a different drug (coke, PCP, RAID) on top of weed
grown using chemicals is just reality. even the organic guys, when you add a whole shitload of bat guano to your grow you're just using organic chemicals.
Love me some bat guano.
The United States of America is so weird; totally puritanical when it comes to most controlled substances, yet you can buy booze and a loaf of bread, or gas, at the same store like in Europe. Such a strange disconnect.
Just legalize it all, then there would be fewer deaths from bad drugs and the government could actually make some money off it, rather than just paying out to try and control it plus the costs for treating the sick/addicted.
KT
The United States of America is so weird; totally puritanical when it comes to most controlled substances, yet you can buy booze and a loaf of bread, or gas, at the same store like in Europe. Such a strange disconnect.
Just legalize it all, then there would be fewer deaths from bad drugs and the government could actually make some money off it, rather than just paying out to try and control it plus the costs for treating the sick/addicted.
KT
Ns1
No Lifer
In liberal states you can buy weed but no guns.
In conservative states you can buy guns but no weed.
bradly1101
Diamond Member
Yeah, I should have added the words that I meant this in MJ's ability to be grown from a seed, and in its unaltered form works for those purposes. It's more profitable than alcohol or pharmaceuticals if/when it is consumed at the same level (sending it higher?). I'm lazy about details sometimes.
It's pretty funny that you call someone 'mindless' when you make a statement that is outright wrong and shows that you don't understand the most basic concepts of plant biology and chemistry.
Nutrients are any chemical or compound that an organism uses to live. That's right, nutrients are chemicals. Did you know that compounds are made of chemicals?
Plants only require 16 or 17 chemical nutrients to produce everything they need to live. Plants in soils can absorb other chemicals that are similar to the chemicals they are attempting to obtain. Now if the soil doesn't contain any one of the 16-17 nutrients required to live, they obviously can't live. Now here is how you get the nutrients you need as a human - the plant synthesizes them. I'm sure you want some of that healthy arsenic and lead that plants can absorb but don't need.
Do you believe that all hydroponic and aeroponic produce has no nutrition compared to field grown crops? Do you have any evidence to back this up? And I want you to explain how the soil is supposed to retain nutrients when you harvest crops which contain nutrients which originated in the soil and bring them elsewhere. Does some kind of magic occur that automatically replenishes the soil's nutrients that you removed via harvest?
Modern crops contain less phytonutrients because they are bred to produce more sugar for sweetness, more starch per plant etc. which creates better tasting and more productive plants. But since this has been happening for over 10,000 years, you'd have to go back to the wild and believe me, you won't get much out of those crops and they will taste horrible.
Want to eat some wild corn?
GobBluth
Senior member
Wow, you sold heroin? You were kind of a piece of shit back then, weren't you? Glad you got out of that life, seriously, you're lucky it didn't ruin you forever. Also, if you ever sold to a kid you're garbage and I hate you.
It's pretty funny that you call someone 'mindless' when you make a statement that is outright wrong and shows that you don't understand the most basic concepts of plant biology and chemistry.
Nutrients are any chemical or compound that an organism uses to live. That's right, nutrients are chemicals. Did you know that compounds are made of chemicals?
Plants only require 16 or 17 chemical nutrients to produce everything they need to live. Plants in soils can absorb other chemicals that are similar to the chemicals they are attempting to obtain. Now if the soil doesn't contain any one of the 16-17 nutrients required to live, they obviously can't live. Now here is how you get the nutrients you need as a human - the plant synthesizes them. I'm sure you want some of that healthy arsenic and lead that plants can absorb but don't need.
Do you believe that all hydroponic and aeroponic produce has no nutrition compared to field grown crops? Do you have any evidence to back this up? And I want you to explain how the soil is supposed to retain nutrients when you harvest crops which contain nutrients which originated in the soil and bring them elsewhere. Does some kind of magic occur that automatically replenishes the soil's nutrients that you removed via harvest?
Modern crops contain less phytonutrients because they are bred to produce more sugar for sweetness, more starch per plant etc. which creates better tasting and more productive plants. But since this has been happening for over 10,000 years, you'd have to go back to the wild and believe me, you won't get much out of those crops and they will taste horrible.
Want to eat some wild corn?
Good to know I was wrong about fertilizer. Probably some stupid article I read not based in fact, what you say makes sense.
Yeah I was hooked on it myself at the time. It was all fun and games til it got bad. I still don't think its wrong to sell it. I don't blame my dealers for getting hooked. It was my decision to try it and my decision to keep doing it. I believe it should be legal. Then addicts can get pure heroin thats a known quantity and quality for a fair price. It will also keep the money in legit business that get taxed instead of going to shady criminal enterprise.
Its also why mindless's assertion that weed is laced with heroin is insane. I've smoked weed for 17 years and did heroin for 6. After 1000s of batches of different weed, I've never had one laced with heroin. I know what it tastes, smells and feels like. I have had some bad batches of pot sprayed with the synthetic THC stuff and I've had batches that just looked smelled and tasted terrible. Like they were doused in pesticide or got burnt with too much fertilizer.
It's pretty funny that you call someone 'mindless' when you make a statement that is outright wrong and shows that you don't understand the most basic concepts of plant biology and chemistry.
Nutrients are any chemical or compound that an organism uses to live. That's right, nutrients are chemicals. Did you know that compounds are made of chemicals?
Plants only require 16 or 17 chemical nutrients to produce everything they need to live. Plants in soils can absorb other chemicals that are similar to the chemicals they are attempting to obtain. Now if the soil doesn't contain any one of the 16-17 nutrients required to live, they obviously can't live. Now here is how you get the nutrients you need as a human - the plant synthesizes them. I'm sure you want some of that healthy arsenic and lead that plants can absorb but don't need.
Do you believe that all hydroponic and aeroponic produce has no nutrition compared to field grown crops? Do you have any evidence to back this up? And I want you to explain how the soil is supposed to retain nutrients when you harvest crops which contain nutrients which originated in the soil and bring them elsewhere. Does some kind of magic occur that automatically replenishes the soil's nutrients that you removed via harvest?
Modern crops contain less phytonutrients because they are bred to produce more sugar for sweetness, more starch per plant etc. which creates better tasting and more productive plants. But since this has been happening for over 10,000 years, you'd have to go back to the wild and believe me, you won't get much out of those crops and they will taste horrible.
Want to eat some wild corn?
I believe this is the article I read.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/soil-depletion-and-nutrition-loss/
I was thinking the loss of nutrients had to do with growing the same crop that used up all of certain nutrients and there not being other plants dying and rotting on the soil.
I know about lead and arsenic too, I think it was someone on here saying that certain trees can't remember which were treated with arsenic in the soil around them back in like the 50s except for california. Thats why its better to get brown rice grown in california so you don't ingest as much inorganic arsenic.
KMFJD
Lifer
We don't need surveys. You can look at the data from the big spike in prescribing strong opiates, particularly Oxycontin. Then the government decides to "fix" the opiate pill problem and all of a sudden you have a huge spike in heroin use and heroin overdose. From 2002 - 2016 heroin users have more than doubled and heroin overdoses have gone up by over 500%. This is a spike unlike anything ever seen before and is directly attributed to the legal prescribing of opiates that were marketed to not be addictive or have a far less addictiveness.
Again, this was a new drug that was marketed to doctors as being far less addictive. You are really blaming people for trusting their doctors?
Then why not just make all drugs legal and leave it all to individual choice if that is your attitude?
See the above, we don't need surveys. Hell when the big crackdown on Oxy was happening sheriffs around the country said that they knew this would lead to a huge spike in heroin use before it even happened. But of course, you know more than basically every expert on every topic even remotely related to this...
KMFJD
Lifer
Yes, handguns are legal in Canada. If you want to own a handgun, (or other "restricted" firearms such as AR-15 rifles) in Canada you will additionally need to to pass a second course called the CRFSC (the R is for Restricted,) and pay a bit more on the application to get a PAL which allows you to buy restricted firearms.n
GobBluth
Senior member
Sorry to hear about that point in your life. I'm really glad you were able to overcome it as it has killed so many. Kudos to you. That said, wait wait wait wait wait hold the phone one damn second.... are you 100% serious with this statement or are you trolling? You think it is okay to sell heroin? I'm dying to hear the justification of this.
I already gave it, its a free country last I heard. If somebody wants to do heroin why shouldn't they be allowed? Plus its not as bad as the media or government make it out to be. Its actually healthier than alcohol, being thats its not an outright poison. It just gets a bad rep because its illegal. If it was legal, it'd be pure, affordable, known dose so less od's, plenty of clean needles so less disease, no drug wars over it, taxes would be paid on top of less spent on the prison and police. It'd be more like alcohol where the addicted don't have to rob people for their fix, its a win win for everybody.
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