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Stop by MTV for a few minutes if you can stomach it. The programming seems like it was thought up by a Berkley professor.
 
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Remember all those stories about how lopsided the 2004 election was? The vast majority of Bush coverage was negative, and the vast majority of Kerry was negative on almost all TV and Cable News networks.

The media is overrun, at large, by liberals and it shows, each and every day.

You can't report fact or truth without being negative towards Bush.
 
Imagine a jack rabbit that ran through a bunch of tortoises. They'd be talking about the liberal that hopped among them for a thousand years and inventing horror stories about what happens when shells collide.
 
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Remember all those stories about how lopsided the 2004 election was? The vast majority of Bush coverage was negative, and the vast majority of Kerry was negative on almost all TV and Cable News networks.

The media is overrun, at large, by liberals and it shows, each and every day.

You can't report fact or truth without being negative towards Bush.

That's the problem with your type, that is just YOUR opinion, Hollywood's opinion, and by and large the media reporter's opinion. Evidenced by the 2004 election, not everyone buy's into this line of bullshit.
 
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Remember all those stories about how lopsided the 2004 election was? The vast majority of Bush coverage was negative, and the vast majority of Kerry was negative on almost all TV and Cable News networks.

The media is overrun, at large, by liberals and it shows, each and every day.

Yeah, all that swift boat stuff was really about how Bush never went to Vietnam. In other news, I have no idea why a president overseeing two increasingly disasterous foreign invasions, record deficits, etc. would be the recipient of negative news coverage.

Must be because the media's so librul.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Imagine a jack rabbit that ran through a bunch of tortoises. They'd be talking about the liberal that hopped among them for a thousand years and inventing horror stories about what happens when shells collide.

Imagine If I had wheels and peddles i'd be a bicycle.
 
Originally posted by: smashp
Thank God those soy-loving, peacenik, Marxist-loving Liberal media types didnt propagate their Hippie shit to the masses when we needed to protect the Freedom and Safety of the US of A and Liberate Iraq. We wanted revenge and needed to fight them there before Iraq casued another 9/11. I mean did Saddam think he could get away with Destroying the World Trade Center?

Right on. Those damn liberals sure hate America, freedom, and our troops!
 
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Stop by MTV for a few minutes if you can stomach it. The programming seems like it was thought up by a Berkley professor.

I seriously doubt any person with an IQ over 70 was responsible for NEXT, Parental Control, or My Super Sweet 16.

Young people are overwhelmingly liberal. MTV caters to young people. Why should they not have more liberal programming?

And are you really trying to bring MTV in as evidence? Seriously? Do you see anyone else saying "I watched the Lifetime network! The media is in the pocket of Big Vagina!"
 
Originally posted by: Duwelon

That's the problem with your type, that is just YOUR opinion, Hollywood's opinion, and by and large the media reporter's opinion. Evidenced by the 2004 election, not everyone buy's into this line of bullshit.

Evidenced by Bush's approval ratings, it's not bullshit at all.

The truth has a well documented liberal bias.

- Colbert

 
I can explain it right here: Conservatives and right-wing GOP types are perpetual victims who love to play the victim card and pretend that somehow they're the underdog that is fighting to tell you the real truth that the big bad liberal media won't tell you.

It's downright stupid and pathetic.
 
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Stop by MTV for a few minutes if you can stomach it. The programming seems like it was thought up by a Berkley professor.

I seriously doubt any person with an IQ over 70 was responsible for NEXT, Parental Control, or My Super Sweet 16.

Young people are overwhelmingly liberal. MTV caters to young people. Why should they not have more liberal programming?

Kid's don't come programmed as liberals or conservatives. They are a product of their enviornment, nature and nurture. Much more nurture if you ask me. If you let them grow up watching nothing but liberal run entertainment outlets, don't be surprised if they grow up and vote liberal.

The problem with this whole argument is, we're basically arguing against a dictator on why a dictatorship is bad. Does the dictator want to give up his power? No, but he also knows that if enough want him to, eventually it could happen. That's exactly what's going on here. You know that reporters are overwhelmingly liberal and it shows all the time. Why the hell should we believe that the media isn't Biased when we know it is, especially when you have a stake in it?

What i'm saying is, you're not going to change any conservative's mind about the media unless you show real evidence that they are not biased. Your "wit" isn't going to cut it.
 
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
I can explain it right here: Conservatives and right-wing GOP types are perpetual victims who love to play the victim card and pretend that somehow they're the underdog that is fighting to tell you the real truth that the big bad liberal media won't tell you.

It's downright stupid and pathetic.

Dumb, not one thing you said is true, which should be obvious to you if you tried to find evidence for anything you just said.
 
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Stop by MTV for a few minutes if you can stomach it. The programming seems like it was thought up by a Berkley professor.

I seriously doubt any person with an IQ over 70 was responsible for NEXT, Parental Control, or My Super Sweet 16.

Young people are overwhelmingly liberal. MTV caters to young people. Why should they not have more liberal programming?

Kid's don't come programmed as liberals or conservatives. They are a product of their enviornment, nature and nurture. Much more nurture if you ask me. If you let them grow up watching nothing but liberal run entertainment outlets, don't be surprised if they grow up and vote liberal.

The problem with this whole argument is, we're basically arguing against a dictator on why a dictatorship is bad. Does the dictator want to give up his power? No, but he also knows that if enough want him to, eventually it could happen. That's exactly what's going on here. You know that reporters are overwhelmingly liberal and it shows all the time. Why the hell should we believe that the media isn't Biased when we know it is, especially when you have a stake in it?

What i'm saying is, you're not going to change any conservative's mind about the media unless you show real evidence that they are not biased. Your "wit" isn't going to cut it.

It isn't going to cut it but it will cut through it. You are a blind bigot and nothing can touch you where you live. You are a block of cement. The media is what you see when you look with your eyes. You wear conservative blinders and see liberal. I see a bunch of folk who are trying to say what will collect a lot of people together in one place to sell them Viagra.
 
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Remember all those stories about how lopsided the 2004 election was? The vast majority of Bush coverage was negative, and the vast majority of Kerry was negative on almost all TV and Cable News networks.

The media is overrun, at large, by liberals and it shows, each and every day.

You can't report fact or truth without being negative towards Bush.

That's the problem with your type, that is just YOUR opinion, Hollywood's opinion, and by and large the media reporter's opinion. Evidenced by the 2004 election, not everyone buy's into this line of bullshit.

not to mention the overwhelming opinion of the american public.
 
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Stop by MTV for a few minutes if you can stomach it. The programming seems like it was thought up by a Berkley professor.

I seriously doubt any person with an IQ over 70 was responsible for NEXT, Parental Control, or My Super Sweet 16.

Young people are overwhelmingly liberal. MTV caters to young people. Why should they not have more liberal programming?

Kid's don't come programmed as liberals or conservatives. They are a product of their enviornment, nature and nurture. Much more nurture if you ask me. If you let them grow up watching nothing but liberal run entertainment outlets, don't be surprised if they grow up and vote liberal.

The problem with this whole argument is, we're basically arguing against a dictator on why a dictatorship is bad. Does the dictator want to give up his power? No, but he also knows that if enough want him to, eventually it could happen. That's exactly what's going on here. You know that reporters are overwhelmingly liberal and it shows all the time. Why the hell should we believe that the media isn't Biased when we know it is, especially when you have a stake in it?

What i'm saying is, you're not going to change any conservative's mind about the media unless you show real evidence that they are not biased. Your "wit" isn't going to cut it.

Children being more liberal than their parents is nothing new, and it far far predates mass media. Care to venture a guess as to why that is?

EDIT: Oh, and I've showed you and others real evidence that the media is not biased many many times. It still hasn't made a dent.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
It isn't going to cut it but it will cut through it. You are a blind bigot and nothing can touch you where you live. You are a block of cement. The media is what you see when you look with your eyes. You wear conservative blinders and see liberal. I see a bunch of folk who are trying to say what will collect a lot of people together in one place to sell them Viagra.

That would have been a far out poem back in your glory days on the grassy gnolls duuuude....
 
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Stop by MTV for a few minutes if you can stomach it. The programming seems like it was thought up by a Berkley professor.

I seriously doubt any person with an IQ over 70 was responsible for NEXT, Parental Control, or My Super Sweet 16.

Young people are overwhelmingly liberal. MTV caters to young people. Why should they not have more liberal programming?

Kid's don't come programmed as liberals or conservatives. They are a product of their enviornment, nature and nurture. Much more nurture if you ask me. If you let them grow up watching nothing but liberal run entertainment outlets, don't be surprised if they grow up and vote liberal.

The problem with this whole argument is, we're basically arguing against a dictator on why a dictatorship is bad. Does the dictator want to give up his power? No, but he also knows that if enough want him to, eventually it could happen. That's exactly what's going on here. You know that reporters are overwhelmingly liberal and it shows all the time. Why the hell should we believe that the media isn't Biased when we know it is, especially when you have a stake in it?

What i'm saying is, you're not going to change any conservative's mind about the media unless you show real evidence that they are not biased. Your "wit" isn't going to cut it.

Children being more liberal than their parents is nothing new, and it far far predates mass media. Care to venture a guess as to why that is?

EDIT: Oh, and I've showed you and others real evidence that the media is not biased many many times. It still hasn't made a dent.

Care to post it again? Sounds like you got a list of links saved in a textfile.
 
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Stop by MTV for a few minutes if you can stomach it. The programming seems like it was thought up by a Berkley professor.

I seriously doubt any person with an IQ over 70 was responsible for NEXT, Parental Control, or My Super Sweet 16.

Young people are overwhelmingly liberal. MTV caters to young people. Why should they not have more liberal programming?

Kid's don't come programmed as liberals or conservatives. They are a product of their enviornment, nature and nurture. Much more nurture if you ask me. If you let them grow up watching nothing but liberal run entertainment outlets, don't be surprised if they grow up and vote liberal.

The problem with this whole argument is, we're basically arguing against a dictator on why a dictatorship is bad. Does the dictator want to give up his power? No, but he also knows that if enough want him to, eventually it could happen. That's exactly what's going on here. You know that reporters are overwhelmingly liberal and it shows all the time. Why the hell should we believe that the media isn't Biased when we know it is, especially when you have a stake in it?

What i'm saying is, you're not going to change any conservative's mind about the media unless you show real evidence that they are not biased. Your "wit" isn't going to cut it.

Do you suggest a "Political Affiliation" box, to check liberal or conservative, on job applications? Right next to age, gender, sex, and race ?

So, does a company have to say no if they get too many liberals applying? Is that not discrimination?

Or does a company have to make sure it hires an even amount of those that checked each box? Is that not affirmative action?

How about letting the best qualified person have the job, regardless of personal beliefs?

How would you like it if your company said, Hey, we gotta let you go .. seems we got too many conservatives in our office, and well, it may bother some customers
 
Originally posted by: deftron
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Stop by MTV for a few minutes if you can stomach it. The programming seems like it was thought up by a Berkley professor.

I seriously doubt any person with an IQ over 70 was responsible for NEXT, Parental Control, or My Super Sweet 16.

Young people are overwhelmingly liberal. MTV caters to young people. Why should they not have more liberal programming?

Kid's don't come programmed as liberals or conservatives. They are a product of their enviornment, nature and nurture. Much more nurture if you ask me. If you let them grow up watching nothing but liberal run entertainment outlets, don't be surprised if they grow up and vote liberal.

The problem with this whole argument is, we're basically arguing against a dictator on why a dictatorship is bad. Does the dictator want to give up his power? No, but he also knows that if enough want him to, eventually it could happen. That's exactly what's going on here. You know that reporters are overwhelmingly liberal and it shows all the time. Why the hell should we believe that the media isn't Biased when we know it is, especially when you have a stake in it?

What i'm saying is, you're not going to change any conservative's mind about the media unless you show real evidence that they are not biased. Your "wit" isn't going to cut it.

Do you suggest a "Political Affiliation" box, to check liberal or conservative, on job applications? Right next to age, gender, sex, and race ?

So, does a company have to say no if they get too many liberals applying? Is that not discrimination?

Or does a company have to make sure it hires an even amount of those that checked each box? Is that not affirmative action?

How about letting the best qualified person have the job, regardless of personal beliefs?

How would you like it if your company said, Hey, we gotta let you go .. seems we got too many conservatives in our office, and well, it may bother some customers

The intelligence level on this forum is depressing. How in the WORLD did you extrapolate this piece of crap that your post insinuates from what I wrote?
 
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: eskimospy

Children being more liberal than their parents is nothing new, and it far far predates mass media. Care to venture a guess as to why that is?

EDIT: Oh, and I've showed you and others real evidence that the media is not biased many many times. It still hasn't made a dent.

Care to post it again? Sounds like you got a list of links saved in a textfile.

I've posted it at least half a dozen times. Use the forum search function.
Also, can you explain the kids being more liberal than their parents in the past as well?
 
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: eskimospy

Children being more liberal than their parents is nothing new, and it far far predates mass media. Care to venture a guess as to why that is?

EDIT: Oh, and I've showed you and others real evidence that the media is not biased many many times. It still hasn't made a dent.

Care to post it again? Sounds like you got a list of links saved in a textfile.

I've posted it at least half a dozen times. Use the forum search function.
Also, can you explain the kids being more liberal than their parents in the past as well?

If it had something to do with the media bias I might.

edit: and i'm not going to search for the "evidence" you've posted because i doubt i'll be able to recognize it. It's probably just random opinions you've pieced together that you want to believe is evidence... no offense of course...
 
Everything is biased. What that bias looks like to you depends on your own bias. Does that make any sense to you? Do you not see that what you want to do is call your bias the south poll and anything you see a distance away is northern liberal?
 
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: eskimospy

Children being more liberal than their parents is nothing new, and it far far predates mass media. Care to venture a guess as to why that is?

EDIT: Oh, and I've showed you and others real evidence that the media is not biased many many times. It still hasn't made a dent.

Care to post it again? Sounds like you got a list of links saved in a textfile.

I've posted it at least half a dozen times. Use the forum search function.
Also, can you explain the kids being more liberal than their parents in the past as well?

If it had something to do with the media bias I might.

edit: and i'm not going to search for the "evidence" you've posted because i doubt i'll be able to recognize it. It's probably just random opinions you've pieced together that you want to believe is evidence... no offense of course...

The evidence I compiled was a series of academic studies and meta-analysis of the American media, peer reviewed.

As for kids being more liberal than their parents it certainly does have something to do with media bias. You attributed the liberalism of children compared to their parents to liberal media bias. I countered with the fact that this has pretty much always been the case for kids, long before the 'librul media' existed. Will you admit that your correlation of the two is not correct?
 
So far, no one in defense of the term has defined "mainstream liberal media"


I think everyone concedes the point that there is a liberal media.

As well, we acknowledge there is a conservative media.


Now, we need to figure out what is the "mainstream" media,

and why is that media the liberal media


Please enlighten.
 
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