Can someone explain how Republicans came to be the racists?

[michal1980]

flawed / troll topic.

Republicans are not racists.

Anyone that thinks republicans as a majority/whole are racists, have been brainwashed by the lmsm.

 

[chucky2]

Most conservatives refuse to subscribe to white guilt, and are thus labeled as racist by everyone.

This. The end.

 

[LunarRay]

It would seem that one has to really look at what the term 'Racism' means... in historical terms.

I think the Romans thought their citizens were superior to any other people... A nationalistic pride supported by being the conqueror and the conquered being subordinated in most aspects... The English looked at the French as 'frogs'... The Irish Catholic vs the Irish Protestant....

So.... Where do the 'white' folks come from and have they in some manner defeated the other folks who live here? The answer is England mostly and yes! The Irish who arrived were less than human as were the blacks and browns and the poor Indian.... he was a savage...

So who lives under the Republican Umbrella and who under the Democratic one?.... Seems to me that the Republicans consider themselves to be the folks who by virtue of their color ought to rule and the rest ought to serve.... And all because they or we have had our fate sealed long ago... maybe it is in the genes...

 

[Geosurface]

I've been trying to figure this out all day. At what point did Republicans get the reputation of being racist?

at the point democrats realized it was an effective political attack.

 

[LunarRay]

Today's word is... 'Fluctuations'.......
I will never hear or see this word again without thinking of this joke.
I was at my bank today; there was a short line. There was just one lady in front of me, an Asian lady who was trying to exchange yen for dollars. It was obvious she was a little irritated . .. . She asked the teller, "Why it change? Yesterday, I get two hunat dolla fo yen. Today I only get hunat eighty? Why it change?" The teller shrugged his shoulders and said, "Fluctuations." The Asian lady says, more irratated now.

"Fluc you white people too"

 

[WHAMPOM]

I've been trying to figure this out all day. At what point did Republicans get the reputation of being racist? Was it at the same time Democrats got the reputation of siding with minorities?

Are we talking 1960s? 50s? 1800s?

No trolling please. I really want to figure this out.

Thanks!

In the late Fifties reports of mistreatment of returning Black Servicemen gave cause for the Dem party to grow a pair and criticize their Southern hood wearing compatriots[Dixiecrats]. These Southern gentlemen jumped ship in a state of pic. They were wooed by the birds of a like feather old money WASP {NO Irish need apply} Republicans, went to bed with them and rule the roost there to this day.

 

[LunarRay]

When our country adopted its Constitution only property owners or folks of such wealth that they could be taxed could vote... well... in Federal elections. In some States some other folks could vote like freed Slaves could vote in four States, I think it was.... So....

From the very start our country was founded with all sorts of '...ists' included. No wonder Scalia is a strict construction ist...
I wasn't there but I wouldn't doubt that the folks who had property and or wealth were white. The rest were simply chattel owned or not.

Minnesota's 6th Congressional district has a prime example of why Sarah Palin got the VP nod.... Sarah is like so much more intelligent than Bachmann.

 

[monovillage]

Well i'm wishing every member of the forum a Happy Thanksgiving. Which to some people would be a racist statement, not the good wishes of a fellow American for them to have an enjoyable Holiday.

Is it a racist statement? Not to me, but then I'm a Republican.

 

[Zaap]

In the late Fifties reports of mistreatment of returning Black Servicemen gave cause for the Dem party to grow a pair and criticize their Southern hood wearing compatriots[Dixiecrats]. These Southern gentlemen jumped ship in a state of pic. They were wooed by the birds of a like feather old money WASP {NO Irish need apply} Republicans, went to bed with them and rule the roost there to this day.

Lol. Congrats on a post where virtually not a single word is true.

 

[trenchfoot]

Let's see here...if I were a present day white supremacist, I wonder what Party would I feel more at home in? The party of exclusiveness, or the party of inclusiveness? The party that fights for minority rights or the party that fights for "the way things were"? The party that fought for equal opportunity or the party that fought against it? The party that can't seem to bring itself to have a vote in Congress concerning immigration reform or the party that is endorsing it? The only party that in lockstep institutes voting policies that will admittedly disenfranchise and suppress minorities/young people or the party that doesn't do that? And on and on and on.....

Just pointing out the obvious.

Granted, it's my considered opinion that the vast majority of Repubs aren't racist, but it's pretty obvious that if a white supremacist wanted to "feel at home" they'd definetely choose the Repub Party hands down.

Just say'in.

 

[michal1980]

Let's see here...if I were a present day white supremacist, I wonder what Party would I feel more at home in? The party of exclusiveness, or the party of inclusiveness? The party that fights for minority rights or the party that fights for "the way things were"? The party that fought for equal opportunity or the party that fought against it? The party that can't seem to bring itself to have a vote in Congress concerning immigration reform or the party that is endorsing it? The only party that in lockstep institutes voting policies that will admittedly disenfranchise and suppress minorities/young people or the party that doesn't do that? And on and on and on.....

Just pointing out the obvious.

Granted, it's my considered opinion that the vast majority of Repubs aren't racist, but it's pretty obvious that if a white supremacist wanted to "feel at home" they'd definetely choose the Repub Party hands down.

Just say'in.

you've bought into powerful left wing propaganda.

Reality is that the democrats want to legislate equal outcomes. Whereas republicans want equal opportunity.

Think about it. What party is really racists. The party that thinks no matter your skin color you can do anything?

Or the party that thinks because youre black your too stupid to do it on your own so you need government to 'level' the playing field.

 

[SNC]

Let's see here...if I were a present day white supremacist, I wonder what Party would I feel more at home in? The party of exclusiveness, or the party of inclusiveness? The party that fights for minority rights or the party that fights for "the way things were"? The party that fought for equal opportunity or the party that fought against it? The party that can't seem to bring itself to have a vote in Congress concerning immigration reform or the party that is endorsing it? The only party that in lockstep institutes voting policies that will admittedly disenfranchise and suppress minorities/young people or the party that doesn't do that? And on and on and on.....

Just pointing out the obvious.

Granted, it's my considered opinion that the vast majority of Repubs aren't racist, but it's pretty obvious that if a white supremacist wanted to "feel at home" they'd definetely choose the Repub Party hands down.

Just say'in.

He is a perfect example of why we will never be able to have a relevant conversation on the matter. The same could be said for a black supremacist or Mexican or..... and the Democrats. It still does not answer the question. It just add to the bloviating.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I'm not sure if it's true but I heard the Joker trumps a race card.

 

[trenchfoot]

you've bought into powerful left wing propaganda.

Reality is that the democrats want to legislate equal outcomes. Whereas republicans want equal opportunity.

Think about it. What party is really racists. The party that thinks no matter your skin color you can do anything?

Or the party that thinks because youre black your too stupid to do it on your own so you need government to 'level' the playing field.

Interesting point of view I must admit. Outcomes or opportunity. Let's have both I say. To me, what's of most concern is the way we accomplish equal outcomes and equal opportunity. Equal outcomes favor the middle class and the poor. "Equal opportunity" favors the rich, and I quoted that to point out that that phrase is invariably couched in disingenuity when used by conservatives. I've seen that exact phrase used to mean weak and impotent government, mass deregulation, tax cuts only for the very rich, anti-union propaganda and every other aspect of government policy that insidiously favors and blesses the elite class of our society.

Your final two comments, well, blather on I guess. It holds no water, not even a drop.

He is a perfect example of why we will never be able to have a relevant conversation on the matter. The same could be said for a black supremacist or Mexican or..... and the Democrats. It still does not answer the question. It just add to the bloviating.

Hard for me to comment on your post because you took my commentary out of context to make an unrelated point.

Suffice for me to say that as far as the OP is concerned, the Repub Party in some ways unjustifiably carries the image of being racist due to their practices, policies, legislative priorities at the leadership level. As I've stated in my first post and of which both of you have ignored to make your case, it's my opinion that the vast majority of Republicans are not racist. And if there's one party an white supremacist would congregate in, it surely wouldn't be the Democrat one, which adds to the "image" of the Repub Party harboring a racist faction in their midst. How you get around refuting this simple logic is beyond me, whereas the Dem Party with all of its pimples and boils, "appear" to be all-inclusive in their "big tent" philosophy and practice.

However, all one has to do is keep casual track of the proposals and legislative "accomplishments" our Repub legislators have been a party to and it's obvious beyond denial and dismissal how their actions in aggregate appear to be if not discriminatory, racist as a by-product thereof.

Ignore the above at your leisure to keep your self image intact, but what I've offered here is simply an observation devoid of bias and underlying intent.

 

[SNC]

Interesting point of view I must admit. Outcomes or opportunity. Let's have both I say. To me, what's of most concern is the way we accomplish equal outcomes and equal opportunity. Equal outcomes favor the middle class and the poor. "Equal opportunity" favors the rich, and I quoted that to point out that that phrase is invariably couched in disingenuity when used by conservatives. I've seen that exact phrase used to mean weak and impotent government, mass deregulation, tax cuts only for the very rich, anti-union propaganda and every other aspect of government policy that insidiously favors and blesses the elite class of our society.

Your final two comments, well, blather on I guess. It holds no water, not even a drop.



Hard for me to comment on your post because you took my commentary out of context to make an unrelated point.

Suffice for me to say that as far as the OP is concerned, the Repub Party in some ways unjustifiably carries the image of being racist due to their practices, policies, legislative priorities at the leadership level. As I've stated in my first post and of which both of you have ignored to make your case, it's my opinion that the vast majority of Republicans are not racist. And if there's one party an white supremacist would congregate in, it surely wouldn't be the Democrat one, which adds to the "image" of the Repub Party harboring a racist faction in their midst. How you get around refuting this simple logic is beyond me.

However, all one has to do is keep casual track of the proposals and legislative "accomplishments" our Repub legislators have been a party to and it's obvious beyond denial and dismissal how their actions in aggregate appear to be if not discriminatory, racist.

Ignore the above at your leisure to keep your self image intact, but what I've offered here is simply an observation devoid of bias and underlying intent.

Hardly out of context. You supposed that if a white racist was looking for a party to be comfortable in the one with the R would be a welcoming place for him, ie: "feel at home". intimating that the R's as a group would welcome such activity, or at the very least not frown on it. Saying some would fee at home, is akin to saying the receiving group is like minded. I am sure there are plenty of groups on both sides that find solace in either group, I am doubtful they are welcomed by either group as a whole. Case in point. The non prosecution of a black supremacy group by a black AG on the instruction of a black president. I highly doubt that the entirety of the democrat party endorsed this, while seen by a very race motivated move, the OP is not asking why the democrats are racist. We see things through the color of our political colored glasses regardless of party. And your response, with just a couple word changes, could have been used had the opposite been asked. So again I say, your response does not further the conversation except to add to the misrepresentation of a group and their beliefs.

I digress.

 

[Matt1970]

Let's see here...if I were a present day white supremacist, I wonder what Party would I feel more at home in? The party of exclusiveness, or the party of inclusiveness? The party that fights for minority rights or the party that fights for "the way things were"? The party that fought for equal opportunity or the party that fought against it? The party that can't seem to bring itself to have a vote in Congress concerning immigration reform or the party that is endorsing it? The only party that in lockstep institutes voting policies that will admittedly disenfranchise and suppress minorities/young people or the party that doesn't do that? And on and on and on.....

Just pointing out the obvious.

Granted, it's my considered opinion that the vast majority of Repubs aren't racist, but it's pretty obvious that if a white supremacist wanted to "feel at home" they'd definetely choose the Repub Party hands down.

Just say'in.

Quite the opposite. Racist can enjoy a long health career as a Democrat.

 

[papadage]

Sure.. but they are not the ones running policy, or being catered to.

The "Southern Strategy" is very well documented historically, and accounts for the majority party of the South switching to the Republicans due to fear mongering by Nixon. The Great Society had very little to do with it, since Nixon was pretty liberal when it came to government programs and regulation. He would be a leftist today, economically. The appeal to switch parties was on the basis of race baiting over the CRA.

 

[her209]

I'm not sure if it's true but I heard the Joker trumps a race card.

You could always play the "liberal MSM" card.

 

[trenchfoot]

Hardly out of context. You supposed that if a white racist was looking for a party to be comfortable in the one with the R would be a welcoming place for him, ie: "feel at home". intimating that the R's as a group would welcome such activity, or at the very least not frown on it. Saying some would fee at home, is akin to saying the receiving group is like minded. I am sure there are plenty of groups on both sides that find solace in either group, I am doubtful they are welcomed by either group as a whole. Case in point. The non prosecution of a black supremacy group by a black AG on the instruction of a black president. I highly doubt that the entirety of the democrat party endorsed this, while seen by a very race motivated move, the OP is not asking why the democrats are racist. We see things through the color of our political colored glasses regardless of party. And your response, with just a couple word changes, could have been used had the opposite been asked. So again I say, your response does not further the conversation except to add to the misrepresentation of a group and their beliefs.

I digress.

OK, I see your point. In my commentary, I tried my best not to infer that guilt by association was in any way attributable to the Repub Party's "image" of being racist as a whole. Instead, I used specifics to deliniate the difference between those folks who belong to the GOP who aren't racist ("the vast majority" as I previously mentioned and reiterated) and those who make it "appear" that way. If you felt I meant that those who are racist would be welcomed into the GOP, then let me assure you I meant no such thing. My reference to "feeling at home" was a convenient choice of words, where by comparison, a gathering of white supremacists would feel absolutely "not at home" in a party that professes to be all-inclusive and champions the cause of undocumented immigrants, people of color, free and open elections (that favor minorities thus the Dem Party) "dovish" foreign policy initiatives and other "liberal" ideological leanings.

Speaking of which, I haven't heard a peep from the GOP as far as their denouncing that small minority of white supremacists who populate their ranks for fear of losing the votes these folks represent. I mean really, where else would these folks go to express their philosophy through the ballot box?

And you seem to purposely ignore the fact that the Repub Party, for whatever reason they deem fit, regularly pass legislation on a unified basis that "at the end of the day" coincidentally(?) discriminates against the poor, people of color and the young who haven't had the chance to be properly indoctrinated and "de-liberalized".

Quite the opposite. Racist can enjoy a long health career as a Democrat.

Well, because you post in such general terms devoid of specifics I can either agree with you on the one hand and disagree with you on the other.

 

[shadow9d9]

you've bought into powerful left wing propaganda.

Reality is that the democrats want to legislate equal outcomes. Whereas republicans want equal opportunity.

Think about it. What party is really racists. The party that thinks no matter your skin color you can do anything?

Or the party that thinks because youre black your too stupid to do it on your own so you need government to 'level' the playing field.

You've bought into the right wing propaganda that there is a "left" in this country to balance out the extremism of the right. There is the middle/right democrats and the off the cliff right republicans. Congrats!

And yes, the party that goes after minorities on a regular basis, including voter discrimination, is most definitely the party of racist xenophobes as they prove time and time again.

 

[shadow9d9]

It would seem you contradict yourself.

Although I agree it is hard to eliminate racism when those who claim to be working against it are enacting racist policies to "balance things out".

If you actually read what I wrote, it wouldn't confuse you. Policies to reduce racism is needed until the old, fearful, and angry racists, die out. Having new people born, who are more accepting, is the only way to move forward.

 

[shadow9d9]

No you reinforce a racist worldview. Racists have had many rationalizations throughout history and your rationalizations are no different.

This is just a platitude with no content. Funny how you dodged what was in my post!

I'm not angry! Go die! Brilliant! You already admitted to what I accused you of. Too late to back out of it now. Try creating a new thread and pretending that it does not exist. That is what people like you are good at! You see, you need to prove your assertions, which I did(and you helped). Saying, "No, YOU are the racist" won't magically make it so.

 

[Agent11]

I do not have to be angry to be dismissive of you, goodbye.

 

[Matt1970]

Sure.. but they are not the ones running policy, or being catered to.

The "Southern Strategy" is very well documented historically, and accounts for the majority party of the South switching to the Republicans due to fear mongering by Nixon. The Great Society had very little to do with it, since Nixon was pretty liberal when it came to government programs and regulation. He would be a leftist today, economically. The appeal to switch parties was on the basis of race baiting over the CRA.

1969 called, it wants is post back. Sorry, but if I am going to catch all kinds of hell for mentioning Robert Byrd and the Democrat Senate leader's racism of 3 years ago, bringing up something 44 years ago is not valid.

 

[thraashman]

When just 2 years ago 46% of Mississippi Republicans thought interracial marriage should be illegal , you'll get a reputation for being a bit racist as a party. It doesn't help when you have Presidential candidates that were at one point leading the polls refer to the President as a "nig ... uh...." before catching himself.