Can real civil discourse and good governance exist in our current 2-party paradigm?

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Can real civil discourse and good governance exist in our current 2-party paradigm?

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 34.6%
  • No

    Votes: 17 65.4%

  • Total voters
    26

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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I think they are trying to blame it on Pelosi because they literally have nothing else. While yes I agree it's a ridiculous idea to say 'it's Nancy Pelosi's fault for not fortifying the Capitol sufficiently against a violent mob of our supporters we incited', what else are they supposed to say?
Maybe, “We we’re fucking scum and we are sorry.”?

But I do think they have carried the altered reality thingi where the ice is thinning and showing cracks.
 

mect

Platinum Member
Jan 5, 2004
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Right, so is the idea that nothing can be done to make Republicans more reasonable and therefore civil discourse and good governance are now impossible? If so, and this is a genuine question, why isn't the logical answer to strike now while we control the machinery of government and destroy them before it's too late? Please note I don't advocate this in any way, because I think there is a chance of making things better.

I think when people say it's impossible it's mostly out of frustration because Republicans are so committed to tribalism and insanity, but I don't think it's impossible, and I don't think we should give up.
I do think our best hope is to strike now (from a legislative perspective). If we don't get voting legislation passed to prevent republicans from suppressing votes and gerrymandering the map, I think our democracy might end up past the point of no return. I think the only way to get back to the point of reasonable republicans is to prevent them from being able to win without getting the majority of the votes.
 
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