Can one explain why emos are what they are?

imported_goku

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I just don't understand, it's like a fscking paradox... Please explain.. Why is an emo, an emo? Why can't they be normal people?
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: goku
I just don't understand, it's like a fscking paradox... Please explain.. Why is an emo, an emo? Why can't they be normal people?

Actually, you should be asking yourself that question, "why can't I be normal?".
 

wetcat007

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Originally posted by: goku
I don't understand you people, I didn't say WHO ARE THEY, I said WHY ARE THEY THE WAY THEY ARE?

A group of people who try and to make friends by slitting their wrists. They spend all day crying about how difficult life is, and love to cry. "How could this happen to me?" type reaction falling down crying over little things that are completely trivial to a normal person.

Why are they? Well once upon a time depression became cool or something, so the emos came about cutting their wrists and crying to themselves in corners, often in groups. While listening to really pathetic music.

I tried my best to explain it.. lol
 

The Batt?sai

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girlfriend: C'mon, lets have sex.
boyfriend: I'm too sad to have sex.
girlfriend: I'm sad too; lets have sex and cry.
boyfriend: I'm already crying.

from urban dictionary

:confused:
 

Orsorum

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This generation (late 1970s onward) was raised with conflicting signals from the world around them.

First, they saw the allegiances of the old business world shift from one of loyalty (a vast generalization, but by and large it is true) to one of convenience and thrift: if it made immediate sense to cut costs and outsource jobs, then do it. The only loyalty in the business world is to the short-term profit - if our stock price falls tomorrow, it's a "plunge"; if you quadruple your stock value in a year's time, you're given fame and more interest, which only sustains the growth. If you build value over long periods, you're a "cautious" investor that's likely to lose out with the newest fad. This generation has lost an interest in a career as an end. We are no longer just engineers or accountants, as a profession. They're our jobs. When we leave at 5PM we're done. With no loyalty or personal identification to our employer we cease thinking of them as an extension of ourselves.

We have become more inwardly centered, in general, as a result, as we witness our parents coping with the new realities.

Second, we were raised with the persistent oversight of authorities. We are constantly prevented from acting in our own self-interest, be it in self-defense in a school fight (god forbid you defend yourself!) or driving (god forbid you go over 65 on a Seattle highway!). Our entire lives we've been babied, coddled, held to the lowest common denominator. We have warning labels on appliances and nutrition information on fast food. Do we REALLY need a label to tell us that McDonalds' is unhealthy? Do we need someone legislating car seats?

We've become dependent on others to tell us what to do. So, when we reach those points where we're forced to think (and fail) for ourselves, we're incapable of handling it. We're left to ask "Why oh why?" instead of knowing, intuitively, that in there being a winner there will always be losers. If you latch your seatbelt incorrectly, yes, you will die. If someone wins the trophy, yes, someone else will not get a trophy.

Third, we've grown up with the Internet. Whereas previous generations had to deal with maybe a small group of friends and a handwritten diary (or, if you were lucky, a tv show, like NPH) to express their innermost desires, all of whom would eventually tell them to shut the fvck up and stop whining, or simply run out of paper, the internet has given millions of young people the opportunity to blab on and on and on about the most inane details of their lives, resulting in the appearance of significance. By loose associations with people unknown to us, we project an image of credibility. If my webpage gets 500 hits a day, I must mean something, right?

We've lost the reality of obscurity. We've never been left to the pounding vacuum of our lonely thoughts, or been forced to confront those and deal with our meaninglessness. We've never been forced to deal with a break-up and say, "Wow, that hurt, cut me to my core... but, I'll never get anywhere by dwelling on it, time to wake up and live life." We've been allowed to lament and analyze and analyze again and wail like whiny little bitches.

And what do these conditions all lead to? Emo "music," the most pretentious bullshit ever invented. It speaks to a generation of worthless fvcks because we've been raised to believe that our emotions mean something. We've been raised to think that what we FEEL is more important than what we DO.
 

iamaelephant

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I think I was sort of half-way emo when I was 15, and I couldn't tell you why. I look back now and realise I was pathetic.
 
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SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Orsorum
This generation (late 1970s onward) was raised with conflicting signals from the world around them.

First, they saw the allegiances of the old business world shift from one of loyalty (a vast generalization, but by and large it is true) to one of convenience and thrift: if it made immediate sense to cut costs and outsource jobs, then do it. The only loyalty in the business world is to the short-term profit - if our stock price falls tomorrow, it's a "plunge"; if you quadruple your stock value in a year's time, you're given fame and more interest, which only sustains the growth. If you build value over long periods, you're a "cautious" investor that's likely to lose out with the newest fad. This generation has lost an interest in a career as an end. We are no longer just engineers or accountants, as a profession. They're our jobs. When we leave at 5PM we're done. With no loyalty or personal identification to our employer we cease thinking of them as an extension of ourselves.

We have become more inwardly centered, in general, as a result, as we witness our parents coping with the new realities.

Second, we were raised with the persistent oversight of authorities. We are constantly prevented from acting in our own self-interest, be it in self-defense in a school fight (god forbid you defend yourself!) or driving (god forbid you go over 65 on a Seattle highway!). Our entire lives we've been babied, coddled, held to the lowest common denominator. We have warning labels on appliances and nutrition information on fast food. Do we REALLY need a label to tell us that McDonalds' is unhealthy? Do we need someone legislating car seats?

We've become dependent on others to tell us what to do. So, when we reach those points where we're forced to think (and fail) for ourselves, we're incapable of handling it. We're left to ask "Why oh why?" instead of knowing, intuitively, that in there being a winner there will always be losers. If you latch your seatbelt incorrectly, yes, you will die. If someone wins the trophy, yes, someone else will not get a trophy.

Third, we've grown up with the Internet. Whereas previous generations had to deal with maybe a small group of friends and a handwritten diary (or, if you were lucky, a tv show, like NPH) to express their innermost desires, all of whom would eventually tell them to shut the fvck up and stop whining, or simply run out of paper, the internet has given millions of young people the opportunity to blab on and on and on about the most inane details of their lives, resulting in the appearance of significance. By loose associations with people unknown to us, we project an image of credibility. If my webpage gets 500 hits a day, I must mean something, right?

We've lost the reality of obscurity. We've never been left to the pounding vacuum of our lonely thoughts, or been forced to confront those and deal with our meaninglessness. We've never been forced to deal with a break-up and say, "Wow, that hurt, cut me to my core... but, I'll never get anywhere by dwelling on it, time to wake up and live life." We've been allowed to lament and analyze and analyze again and wail like whiny little bitches.

And what do these conditions all lead to? Emo "music," the most pretentious bullshit ever invented. It speaks to a generation of worthless fvcks because we've been raised to believe that our emotions mean something. We've been raised to think that what we FEEL is more important than what we DO.

Orsorum for elite!!
 

Buck Armstrong

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You're overanalyzing this. Its simple: TRENDINESS. Hey everybody, look at me, I'm so deep and/or different. I'm a tortured genius and you'll never understand my pain. Same reason why some teenagers are so vocal about being punks, homos, granola bars, pot-smokers, etc.

I'm so unique and fake and hardcore that I'm like all the other fags.
 

Nab

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Originally posted by: quasarsky
girlfriend: C'mon, lets have sex.
boyfriend: I'm too sad to have sex.
girlfriend: I'm sad too; lets have sex and cry.
boyfriend: I'm already crying.

from urban dictionary

:confused:


hahahahahha
 

MartyMcFly3

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They don't want to conform to everyone else, so they go off into there own little group where they all dress the same and look the same and listen to the same type of music. Basically, they fight conformity by conforming with the non-conforming crowd.

In other words, Emo is really really dumb.
 

imported_bum

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Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
They don't want to conform to everyone else, so they go off into there own little group where they all dress the same and look the same and listen to the same type of music. Basically, they fight conformity by conforming with the non-conforming crowd.

In other words, Emo is really really dumb.

"Emos" are just part of another social group or clique that behaves a certain way. There is not just a conforming crowd and a non-conforming emo/punk/goth crowd. People conform to the behavior their friends and those around them. There are plenty of different types of social groups.

edit: Hmm, that's not exactly what I meant to say. Punks/goths/whatevers are looking for a way to fit in without conforming to "normal" behavior. In the end, they aren't doing anything but choosing another group to conform to. Anyway, I think most of that attitude comes from confidence or esteem issues. In any case, I'd say it's usually involved with some sort of social inadequacy. God I'm tired, I'm going to sleep.
 

MartyMcFly3

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Originally posted by: bum
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
They don't want to conform to everyone else, so they go off into there own little group where they all dress the same and look the same and listen to the same type of music. Basically, they fight conformity by conforming with the non-conforming crowd.

In other words, Emo is really really dumb.

"Emos" are just part of another social group or clique that behaves a certain way. There is not just a conforming crowd and a non-conforming emo/punk/goth crowd. People conform to the behavior their friends and those around them. There are plenty of different types of social groups.

Yeah but those groups don't consist of whiny "my middle-class life is so rough and mom's dinner tonight wasn't great so im all depressed now" crap kids.
 

MacGuffin

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Its the whole "I hate my life and I hate myself...now get out so I can cut myself alone in my 600 square foot bedroom" syndrome.

It's trendy, its cool to be 'so special no one gets me'.