Can NFL kickers kick 70 yard field goals if there were no defense?

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Kev

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Originally posted by: GambiT
I remembered the kickers use 2 different type balls. One type is for kick-offs and the other they use for field goals... Has anyone else heard of this?

wouldn't that be against those pesky things called "rules"
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: drum
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well to make a 70 yard field goal you'd have to kick it at a really low angle....

you're going to get your maximum distance at 45 degrees

only if there were no aerodynamic forces acting on the ball, which isn't the case. after a while the ball starts to trade speed for height and actually angle upward during it's flight.
 

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Any kicker for the Broncos doesn't count. Of course you can kick further if you are a mile above sea level.

I would think that the biggest difference between kickoffs and field goals would be the running start they get. The timing would be totally off if they tried doing it in a real game.

High schoolers kicking 70 yarders during practice don't surprise me. Put them in a game time situation where timing is critical and you don't have all the time in the world to set up. Then we'll see what happens.
 

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Originally posted by: Syringer
I've seen many accounts of high school kids kicking 60+ yard field goals, and some well beyond the range of the NFL record..and I'm wondering how much a difference having 6'5" guys jumping high into the air makes..

John Hall, now with the jets i think, was a monster at UW Madison. I remember once when he was forced to kick-off at the 20 yard line, due to penilties, and he put it 7 yards outside of the endzone. I don't have the link, but if you search around google you might find it. Thats a 97 yard kick. Also a couple of times on the kick off he put it through the uprights (college kick off at the 40 yardline so thats a 70 yard field goal). But this is before the rules of the kicker's ball changed and he was going for distance--not accuracy. Also the college field goal is 23' 4" wide and professional is 18' 6" wide--which is a HUGE difference.
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nitsuj3580

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Originally posted by: Cyberian
Originally posted by: Syringer
I've seen many accounts of high school kids kicking 60+ yard field goals, and some well beyond the range of the NFL record..and I'm wondering how much a difference having 6'5" guys jumping high into the air makes..
Are you measuring from the spot of the ball, or from the line of scrimmage?

field goals are measured from the spot of the ball or in other words where the holder puts the ball down to be kicked.

Mare can definitely go 70 yards. He'd do it all the time in practice and before games at Syracuse. It was so much fun watching him. During the games his kickoffs would go through the uprights regularly.
 

Ynog

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Yes they could. Would you make it everytime, or when the pressure is on. Probably not all the time.
But without a defense like people have said many times already, you can kick at a lower angle, or
better yet a optimium angle. Which if the defense was there, they could more easily block the ball
when it goes at that path.

And yes it makes a difference if there is a 6 foot guy in front of you trying to stop you. Every play basketball,
its easier to make a wide open shot than when some guys in your face.
 

Saulbadguy

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Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: GambiT
I remembered the kickers use 2 different type balls. One type is for kick-offs and the other they use for field goals... Has anyone else heard of this?

wouldn't that be against those pesky things called "rules"

This is actually true. There are 2 different types of balls. There used to not be..so kickers would doctor the balls, so they would go further for kickoffs. (rub them across concrete, soften them up, put them in the dryer) Don't you notice there arent as many touchbacks anymore in the NFL?
 

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the longest recorded NFL field goal attempt that was good, was 63 yards by Tom Dempsey, New Orleans, 1970; Jason Elam, Denver, 1998.
 

DT4K

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: drum
Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
well to make a 70 yard field goal you'd have to kick it at a really low angle....

you're going to get your maximum distance at 45 degrees

only if there were no aerodynamic forces acting on the ball, which isn't the case. after a while the ball starts to trade speed for height and actually angle upward during it's flight.

Correct.
The 45 degree rule would apply only with constant horizontal velocity. And you would only have constant horizontal velocity if there was no wind resistance (in a vacuum).
In reality, the horizontal velocity is constantly decreasing, so a lower angle allows the ball to gain more distance before it starts to slow down.

That's why golfers hit like a 9 or 10 degree driver off the tee on a par 5 instead of using a 7 iron.