Can Jason Kidd Dunk?

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XMan

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"I am pretty sure that Kidd is one of the big Point Guard in the league."

Not really. Kidd is officially listed as 6-4. Brian Shaw is 6-6. Magic Johnson was 6-9. Penny played the point early in his career and is 6-7. Charlie Ward is 6-3. Eric Snow is also 6-4, I beleive.

5-11 to 6-0 is considered short for a point.
 

LeeTJ

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Originally posted by: X-Man
"I am pretty sure that Kidd is one of the big Point Guard in the league."

Not really. Kidd is officially listed as 6-4. Brian Shaw is 6-6. Magic Johnson was 6-9. Penny played the point early in his career and is 6-7. Charlie Ward is 6-3. Eric Snow is also 6-4, I beleive.

5-11 to 6-0 is considered short for a point.

KJ was 6, Zeke was 6, BJ Armstrong, John Paxson both around 6, Tony parker can't be more than 6'2, Marbury is mb 6'4.

6'4 is above average for pg. there is a reason for shorter pg, the lower you are to the ground the less you are likely to lose the ball while dribbling. even the most skilled 7'0" footer just won't be able to dribble as well as an average 6'0" bball player. it's just physics.

shaw isn't a true pg btw, he was never very good at it, no more than Rose and if you notice, most of the time rose and shaw will play Off Guard.
 

Deuce24

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If Kidd was smart, he'll stay put in NJ and dominate the Eastern conference.

yeah, and never have a shot at an NBA title...I'm sure he wants that.
 

XMan

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Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: X-Man
"I am pretty sure that Kidd is one of the big Point Guard in the league."

Not really. Kidd is officially listed as 6-4. Brian Shaw is 6-6. Magic Johnson was 6-9. Penny played the point early in his career and is 6-7. Charlie Ward is 6-3. Eric Snow is also 6-4, I beleive.

5-11 to 6-0 is considered short for a point.

KJ was 6, Zeke was 6, BJ Armstrong, John Paxson both around 6, Tony parker can't be more than 6'2, Marbury is mb 6'4.

6'4 is above average for pg. there is a reason for shorter pg, the lower you are to the ground the less you are likely to lose the ball while dribbling. even the most skilled 7'0" footer just won't be able to dribble as well as an average 6'0" bball player. it's just physics.

shaw isn't a true pg btw, he was never very good at it, no more than Rose and if you notice, most of the time rose and shaw will play Off Guard.

You have a good point. I've met both KJ and Zeke though, and neither one is six feet. ;) Kinda like how Charles Barkley isn't really 6-6. ;)
 

Doggiedog

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There is no way Charlie Ward is 6' 3". The reason why he never got a look in the NFL was because everyone thought he was too short to play in the NFL as a QB. He is 6' 1" at most.
 

LeeTJ

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Originally posted by: X-Man
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: X-Man
"I am pretty sure that Kidd is one of the big Point Guard in the league."

Not really. Kidd is officially listed as 6-4. Brian Shaw is 6-6. Magic Johnson was 6-9. Penny played the point early in his career and is 6-7. Charlie Ward is 6-3. Eric Snow is also 6-4, I beleive.

5-11 to 6-0 is considered short for a point.

KJ was 6, Zeke was 6, BJ Armstrong, John Paxson both around 6, Tony parker can't be more than 6'2, Marbury is mb 6'4.

6'4 is above average for pg. there is a reason for shorter pg, the lower you are to the ground the less you are likely to lose the ball while dribbling. even the most skilled 7'0" footer just won't be able to dribble as well as an average 6'0" bball player. it's just physics.

shaw isn't a true pg btw, he was never very good at it, no more than Rose and if you notice, most of the time rose and shaw will play Off Guard.

You have a good point. I've met both KJ and Zeke though, and neither one is six feet. ;) Kinda like how Charles Barkley isn't really 6-6. ;)

I know they aren't 6' but isn't that what they are listed at?
 

LeeTJ

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Originally posted by: Doggiedog
There is no way Charlie Ward is 6' 3". The reason why he never got a look in the NFL was because everyone thought he was too short to play in the NFL as a QB. He is 6' 1" at most.

Kind of IRONIC isn't it?? too short for the NFL so he plays BBall?
 

TallBill

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Does it really matter if he can dunk or not? Having skill is not being flashy.
 

Imdmn04

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he can definitely dunk, just like gary payton, but they never do it, cuz there is no need.
99.9 percent of the nba can dunk, some of them just dont do it.
but i have never seen john stockton dunk. ever.
 

BarneyFife

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Does it really matter if he can dunk or not? Having skill is not being flashy.

Exactly. I hate it when a player can't make a free throw or a 10 foot wide open shot. Some of the best dunkers, are the worst basketball players.

 

venk

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Originally posted by: X-Man
I hear he has a mean right hook, but his jab needs work.

Just ask Jourina.

Who cares if he can play or not, he is a piece of s*it wife beater.

 

LeeTJ

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Originally posted by: venk
Originally posted by: X-Man
I hear he has a mean right hook, but his jab needs work.

Just ask Jourina.

Who cares if he can play or not, he is a piece of s*it wife beater.

another self righteous prick shows up.

HEY, she's still with him. Don't try and make her a victim.
 

Chess

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Originally posted by: venk
Originally posted by: X-Man
I hear he has a mean right hook, but his jab needs work.

Just ask Jourina.

Who cares if he can play or not, he is a piece of s*it wife beater.


That probably happens more to normal people, just because he is an star people get b*Tc#e# out because. If you smack a girl on the arm that is assualt.
 

LeeTJ

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Originally posted by: Chess
Originally posted by: venk
Originally posted by: X-Man
I hear he has a mean right hook, but his jab needs work.

Just ask Jourina.

Who cares if he can play or not, he is a piece of s*it wife beater.


That probably happens more to normal people, just because he is an star people get b*Tc#e# out because. If you smack a girl on the arm that is assualt.

IF she had left him, people would have something to say, but she CHOOSE to stay, hence she is NOT a victim.
rolleye.gif


this is not the same as spousal abuse. it really does the whole issue a disservice to talk about it as if it is.
 

venk

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Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: venk
Originally posted by: X-Man
I hear he has a mean right hook, but his jab needs work.

Just ask Jourina.

Who cares if he can play or not, he is a piece of s*it wife beater.

another self righteous prick shows up.

HEY, she's still with him. Don't try and make her a victim.


When did I say she is still a victim? If you are 6'4 220 lbs and decide to beat on a girl, than you are a piece of sh*t.
 

CrazyPerson

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Originally posted by: venk
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: venk
Originally posted by: X-Man
I hear he has a mean right hook, but his jab needs work.

Just ask Jourina.

Who cares if he can play or not, he is a piece of s*it wife beater.

another self righteous prick shows up.

HEY, she's still with him. Don't try and make her a victim.


When did I say she is still a victim? If you are 6'4 220 lbs and decide to beat on a girl, than you are a piece of sh*t.

agree :disgust:
 

LeeTJ

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Originally posted by: venk
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: venk
Originally posted by: X-Man
I hear he has a mean right hook, but his jab needs work.

Just ask Jourina.

Who cares if he can play or not, he is a piece of s*it wife beater.

another self righteous prick shows up.

HEY, she's still with him. Don't try and make her a victim.


When did I say she is still a victim? If you are 6'4 220 lbs and decide to beat on a girl, than you are a piece of sh*t.

ya right, he really "beat" on her.
rolleye.gif


he probably slapped her and no harder than she probably slapped him. did she have any bruises?? did she have any broken bones?? did she have any cuts??

rolleye.gif


he slapped her probably because she slapped him, but we never hear about that so we don't know.

fact is SHE IS STILL WITH HIM. IF it is bad enough for her to complain to the police about LEAVE HIM, if she is going to stay with him, KEEP PRIVATE SH!T PRIVATE.

 

XMan

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Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: venk
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: venk
Originally posted by: X-Man
I hear he has a mean right hook, but his jab needs work.

Just ask Jourina.

Who cares if he can play or not, he is a piece of s*it wife beater.

another self righteous prick shows up.

HEY, she's still with him. Don't try and make her a victim.


When did I say she is still a victim? If you are 6'4 220 lbs and decide to beat on a girl, than you are a piece of sh*t.

ya right, he really "beat" on her.
rolleye.gif


he probably slapped her and no harder than she probably slapped him. did she have any bruises?? did she have any broken bones?? did she have any cuts??

rolleye.gif


he slapped her probably because she slapped him, but we never hear about that so we don't know.

fact is SHE IS STILL WITH HIM. IF it is bad enough for her to complain to the police about LEAVE HIM, if she is going to stay with him, KEEP PRIVATE SH!T PRIVATE.

Give it a listen

 

isekii

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Go rag on Jason Richardson from the Golden State Warriors..
He's a GF beater.

How long has it been since Kidds mistake. I'm sure none of you made mistakes in your whole entire lives.
 

LeeTJ

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Originally posted by: X-Man
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: venk
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: venk
Originally posted by: X-Man
I hear he has a mean right hook, but his jab needs work.

Just ask Jourina.

Who cares if he can play or not, he is a piece of s*it wife beater.

another self righteous prick shows up.

HEY, she's still with him. Don't try and make her a victim.


When did I say she is still a victim? If you are 6'4 220 lbs and decide to beat on a girl, than you are a piece of sh*t.

ya right, he really "beat" on her.
rolleye.gif


he probably slapped her and no harder than she probably slapped him. did she have any bruises?? did she have any broken bones?? did she have any cuts??

rolleye.gif


he slapped her probably because she slapped him, but we never hear about that so we don't know.

fact is SHE IS STILL WITH HIM. IF it is bad enough for her to complain to the police about LEAVE HIM, if she is going to stay with him, KEEP PRIVATE SH!T PRIVATE.

Give it a listen

Proof is: She's still there. She is still living with him.

 

Reliant

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Kidd beating his wife is old news....he got therapy for it and is better. Why can't people let the past go?
You'd want a second chance if you were in his situation.