Can I use VGA monitor with Intel Hd 530(skylake)

robinsmark

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I've seen that Intel drooped support for vga but I've also seen motherboards from MSI for an example with chipset H110 that have vga connector.

My question is that some sort of converter of signal and I will able to use power of Intel HD or I will be only using graphic integrated into motherboard ?

I'm talking about desktop intel hd, obliviously...
 

ShintaiDK

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Integrated graphics and Intel HD graphics is the same thing. You can always use an adapter if the board doesn't have the output.
 

robinsmark

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I've thought that Intel graphic is integrated in processor and that new skylake boards that have vga connectors use graphic integrated in motherboard like in past.

But what does mean that intel drooped vga support then ?

The Skylake line of processors retires the VGA support, while supporting multi-monitor setups of up to three monitors connected via HDMI 1.4, DisplayPort 1.2 or Embedded DisplayPort (eDP) 1.3 interfaces.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/4
 

VirtualLarry

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I have a question related to this. If the base SKL chipset doesn't support VGA output anymore, then how are they doing it? Is it via a standard method, which can be supported by the generic Intel HD graphics driver universally, or will we end up going back to the "bad old days", with (in this case, motherboard) vendor-specific drivers for the HD graphics, which are rarely updated, etc. We all know how that went with laptops with switchable graphics, before Optimus, etc.

I ask this, because I ordered an Asus H110 board, and if I end up building it for someone else, they might be using it with VGA. (Should be a nice upgrade from the GMA of the G31/G41 chipset for 775.)
 

VirtualLarry

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Integrated graphics and Intel HD graphics is the same thing. You can always use an adapter if the board doesn't have the output.

How? One of those HDMI to VGA dongles? The DVI ports on SKL are only DVI-D, not DVI-I(A), so you can't just use a $2 mechanical DVI-I to VGA adapter.
 

Flapdrol1337

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I've thought that Intel graphic is integrated in processor and that new skylake boards that have vga connectors use graphic integrated in motherboard like in past.

But what does mean that intel drooped vga support then ?

The Skylake line of processors retires the VGA support, while supporting multi-monitor setups of up to three monitors connected via HDMI 1.4, DisplayPort 1.2 or Embedded DisplayPort (eDP) 1.3 interfaces.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/4

There are skylake boards with vga connectors, I'd assume they're not just there for show.
 

DaveSimmons

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I needed a DisplayPort to VGA adapter for my new card, I got an IOGear GDPYGAW6 from Amazon and it works fine.
 

LTC8K6

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The analog (VGA) video connector has now been completely removed from the CPU/chipset combination, meaning that any VGA/D-Sub video connection has to be provided via an active digital/analog converter chip. This has been a long time coming, and is part of a previous committment made by Intel several years ago to remove VGA by 2015. Removing analog display functionality will mean added cost for legacy support in order to drive analog displays. Arguably this doesn’t mean much for Z170 as the high end platform is typically used with a discrete graphics card that has HDMI or DisplayPort, but we will see motherboards with VGA equipped in order to satisfy some regional markets with specific requirements.

Yes, some mobo mfgs are maintaining legacy VGA support with an add on chip.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9485/...-asrock-asus-gigabyte-msi-ecs-evga-supermicro
 

Kalessian

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My question is, how much latency is the cheap active DAC adding? I still use a CRT to get 0ms input lag. The switch away from DVI-I makes me nervous since I can't afford a high end gaming LCD presently.
 

LTC8K6

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It's bound to be better than an adapter plug, I would think.

A lower end video card like a 750ti with a vga connector would be much faster than the HD530 graphics.
 

therealnickdanger

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If the motherboard has VGA out, then you'll be fine. I've read disputing reports about external active DAC adapters introducing latency. Try one out and see for yourself, return it if it sucks. Otherwise, just get a GPU with its own DAC (any current NVIDIA GPU, any pre-Hawaii AMD GPU).
 

tomaquet

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I'm having problems connecting my skylake i5 6600k and Asus Z170i motherboard to a VGA monitor.

The motherboard has HDMI and DisplayPort connectors. I bought a DisplayPort-VGA adapter but neither of my two monitors are recognised using the adapter. The DisplayPort connector works fine if I use a DisplayPort-DVI-D cable (on a different monitor). The adapter works fine on an older generation intel chipset (Tested at a friends house).

(Just for clarification, I want to connect one monitor using HDMI and the second monitor using the VGA adapter from the motherboard DisplayPort)

Any ideas what the problem might be?

Thanks for any help offered...
 
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tomaquet

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I'm having problems connecting my skylake i5 6600k and Asus Z170i motherboard to a VGA monitor.

The motherboard has HDMI and DisplayPort connectors. I bought a DisplayPort-VGA adapter but neither of my two monitors are recognised using the adapter. The DisplayPort connector works fine if I use a DisplayPort-DVI-D cable (on a different monitor). The adapter works fine on an older generation intel chipset (Tested at a friends house).

(Just for clarification, I want to connect one monitor using HDMI and the second monitor using the VGA adapter from the motherboard DisplayPort)

Any ideas what the problem might be?

Thanks for any help offered...

Well just for completeness sake, I'd thought I'd better reply what I've discovered.

According to Asus, no VGA-only monitor will work with skylake chips even with an ("active") adapter. However, some skylake motherboards have included a specific chip which does allow VGA monitors to work. In my case (Asus Z170i), that chip isn't there so no VGA for me.
 

Magic Carpet

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I hate those adapters. Just another layer of unnecessary complexity / additional cost. Clearly, if you are upgrading your older rig to Skylake, and the new mobo doesn't have the required legacy video connectors, maybe it's time to upgrade your monitors as well. Alternatively, there are Skylake boards that are vga compatible. Another option would be to get a discrete video card with the ports necessary (an easy way to hook up 1-3 vga panels)
 
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tomaquet

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I hate those adapters. Just another layer of unnecessary complexity / additional cost. Clearly, if you are upgrading your older rig to Skylake, and the news mobo doesn't have legacy graphics connectors, maybe it's time to upgrade your monitors as well.

Clearly I'm in the minority as no one else seems to be reporting this as a problem. I have a multi-monitor setup where my main monitor is hdmi/displayport. But my second monitor's dvi funcionality died, leaving it with vga only. Not too many others will have this problem, but solved it by buying a new (secondary) monitor.

Although in many conference/meeting rooms I've been in, there is only a VGA cable from the projector. As people upgrade to skylake laptops, no one will be able to connect to them, even with an adapter.