Can I suggest that we stop posting religious threads??

hdeck

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how about people just resist the urge to flame in religious threads? much easier.
 

dethman

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we've been trying to get rid of YAGTs for years what makes you think we can get rid of religious ones?
 

Vic

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How about if you don't like a thread, don't click on it?
 

Ryan

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The only problem I have with religious threads, and religious arguments is that people look to religion for answers, instead of using ethics and logic to support their beliefs. Do something because it is just, and right, not because some being in the sky says so.

I don't saee the point in living life and not questioning your being, and knowing why you believe the things you do. "But, there's always been a lottery"
 

meltdown75

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Aw noes dude, whatever will the post wh0res do without the incessant flamage of the religious flava? Wait, correction... "debates". AHAHHAH
 

Mucho

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Originally posted by: Ryuson99
Religion should go with P&N since theres always a debate with religion.

Yea, since religion and politics are inextricably linked.
 

aplefka

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I don't get why people always bitch and moan whenever one is created. If you have nothing to contribute then get the fvck out. Most of the time they start innocent enough until the flames get started.
 

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Originally posted by: Vic
How about if you don't like a thread, don't click on it?

Hmm, while I like that idea, I think if we can flame believers in religion, we can do the same to gays as well. Maybe minorities. We could always just not click on it.


Not disagreeing Vic, but there is only one group which can be run down here with impunity and that is believers. Try it with homosexuals. Should gays be flamed? Not really. I like an even playing field though.

I don't go around flaming either side. I think it sucks.
 

MisfitsFiend

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Most of the time they start innocent enough until the flames get started.
For this reason...can't ever have a "normal" debate in a religious thread without a flamesuit. Dabates are good...flames that end up pissing people off...not so good.
 

ohtwell

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I don't think anything is wrong with religious threads as long as those who don't agree with them stay out of the thread. THat seems to be a hard thing for most of the users her to do, though.


: ) Amanda
 

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Originally posted by: Vic
How about if you don't like a thread, don't click on it?



Hmm, while I like that idea, I think if we can flame believers in religion, we can do the same to gays as well. Maybe minorities. We could always just not click on it.


Not disagreeing Vic, but there is only one group which can be run down here with impunity and that is believers. Try it with homosexuals. Should gays be flamed? Not really. I like an even playing field though.

I don't go around flaming either side. I think it sucks.

VERY WELL STATED!
 

MisfitsFiend

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I don't think anything is wrong with homosexual/minority threads as long as those who don't agree with them stay out of the thread. THat seems to be a hard thing for most of the users her to do, though.
It doesn't quite work this way though...
 

HappyPuppy

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I'm really sick of car threads. I think we should get rid of them. Some asshat always has to say it sucks or it's ugly.
 

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Originally posted by: rbloedow
The only problem I have with religious threads, and religious arguments is that people look to religion for answers, instead of using ethics and logic to support their beliefs. Do something because it is just, and right, not because some being in the sky says so.

I don't saee the point in living life and not questioning your being, and knowing why you believe the things you do. "But, there's always been a lottery"

Philosophically I could say that if there is no God, then morality is arbitrary. In fact it's an artifice that has no reality. Therefore since things that are unreal I choose to not let influence me I dismiss right and wrong. I choose what is expedient and pleasurable. If I want to kill or rob, what difference does it make? We are going to die and our pointless lives end on this pointless planet in a pointless universe. Nothing matters so do as you please. We are all dead meat anyway.

Now, that is a perfectly logical statement. Is it preferable?

 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: rbloedow
The only problem I have with religious threads, and religious arguments is that people look to religion for answers, instead of using ethics and logic to support their beliefs. Do something because it is just, and right, not because some being in the sky says so.

I don't saee the point in living life and not questioning your being, and knowing why you believe the things you do. "But, there's always been a lottery"

Philosophically I could say that if there is no God, then morality is arbitrary. In fact it's an artifice that has no reality. Therefore since things that are unreal I choose to not let influence me I dismiss right and wrong. I choose what is expedient and pleasurable. If I want to kill or rob, what difference does it make? We are going to die and our pointless lives end on this pointless planet in a pointless universe. Nothing matters so do as you please. We are all dead meat anyway.

Now, that is a perfectly logical statement. Is it preferable?

Notice I said ethics and logic - not one or the other. A good mixture of both is best.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: rbloedow
The only problem I have with religious threads, and religious arguments is that people look to religion for answers, instead of using ethics and logic to support their beliefs. Do something because it is just, and right, not because some being in the sky says so.

I don't saee the point in living life and not questioning your being, and knowing why you believe the things you do. "But, there's always been a lottery"

Philosophically I could say that if there is no God, then morality is arbitrary. In fact it's an artifice that has no reality. Therefore since things that are unreal I choose to not let influence me I dismiss right and wrong. I choose what is expedient and pleasurable. If I want to kill or rob, what difference does it make? We are going to die and our pointless lives end on this pointless planet in a pointless universe. Nothing matters so do as you please. We are all dead meat anyway.

Now, that is a perfectly logical statement. Is it preferable?

Notice I said ethics and logic - not one or the other. A good mixture of both is best.

Ethics is a moral concern though, and therefor completely subjective. In objective terms it is meaningless because in objective terms EVERYTHING is meaningless.

Not trying to start a fight and because I can put forward a point doesn't mean I follow it, but one thing religion does is that it gives reality to ethical issues. Now is it really real? That depends of course on if they are right. I don't pretend to know the answer.