Can I run Sata as my master drive and IDE as slave?

[Spooksmcgee]

I just installed a new SATA drive as my master drive, and I have another SATA drive installed as well. I have two IDE drives I also want to add, but everytime I connect them my computer sees the IDE drive as master and boots to it (XP is installed on it). My boot setup is like this:

CDROM
SCSI
HDD-0

I've googled for help and a couple of other places say you can't run anything on your IDE channel if you have SATA as master. Is this true? I need all the hard drive space I can get and wanted my 300Gb sata drive as master. It will suck if I can't use the two additional 200Gb IDE drives I have. Also, right now they're both set to cable select and running on the same IDE ribbon, to an Asus A7N8X Deluxe mobo. I know nothing about Raid arrays and don't have mine setup for one. Thanks for any help!

 

[ribbon13]

M/S settings are irrelevant to SATA drives. Also if you formatted the SATA drive from windows and not windows setup, the 8MB system info cache partition wouldn't be there, and you would have to reinstall windows with the SATA hooked up and the IDE not! Is your IDE drive C in windows? Also install windows on a SATA drive with no other hard drives hooked up! In your bios can you set SCSI as the first boot device? some boards you have to set it that way.

 

[Spooksmcgee]

Yes, the 8mb partition is on my Sata hard drive and one of the IDE hard drives (it used to be my master drive and has Windows on it). WHen I installed XP the 300Gb SATA hard drive was the only thing connected to my computer. I can set SCSI as my first boot device over the CDrom, will that help?

 

[ribbon13]

Try it.

 

[Ike0069]

This is a real good question. Would it be possile for you to format the IDE drive so that it no longer has XP installed and can't be used as a boot device?

 

[corkyg]

SATA drives have no "Master" mor "Slave" settings. I run my IDE as Master and boot drive - and my SATA drive is a data drive. Both work perfectly.

There are kits, however, that will convert IDE drives to SATA, and one of the steps in installing the kit is to set the drive's jumpers to Master.

If the IDE Master were the boot drive, then in theory, both would be set as "Master" but that relationship doesn't exist between them.

 

[ribbon13]

Ok... for those that don't know

If you install windows on a SATA drive with an IDE attached, the IDE will become C: and the boot.ini will be on it, therefore if you lose your C:\ your computer will not boot... you'll have to do an installation repair.

 

[quakefiend420]

Originally posted by: ribbon13
Ok... for those that don't know

If you install windows on a SATA drive with an IDE attached, the IDE will become C: and the boot.ini will be on it, therefore if you lose your C:\ your computer will not boot... you'll have to do an installation repair.

i can vouch for this...i had to repair win2k becuase when i got my new raptor i left the old ide drive in there...even though it was set to boot from sata...and i installed to sata

 

[garth2002]

Okay, two things:
Is there not a setting in the BIOS to set the computer to boot off the SATA drive? I know some mobos have this feature, what model do you have?
What about removing the boot.ini file from your old bootable IDE drive?

 

[ribbon13]

Removing the boot.ini would render the computer not bootable! DUH!

And often the BIOS setting for SATA controllers is SCSI.

 

[Zepper]

Master and Slave only apply to drives on the same PATA channel. Figuring out which will be the boot drive will be the fun part... Looks like you got some help on that above.
.bh.

Here, have a :beer: ! My Berserker's here - Yahoo!

:moon:

 

[corkyg]

OK - then if the SATA drive must be the boot drive, remove the IDE and stick it in a USB 2 external case. End of problem.

 

[Chopstick217]

You can always do a fresh install of windows on the sata drive w/o the PATA drive connected. Afterwards, add on the PATA hard drive. The sata should show up as C and the PATA as D.

 

[JBT]

I had an A7N8X DLX that did this. I had my old IDE drive still with Win XP on it an my new Raptor that I had installed Wn XP on too. There was a way to make it not try to boot of the IDE drive

You need to put SCSI in your boot boot string. SCSI = SATA in the A7N8X BIOS... I know sound weird... so it should be like this.


CD-ROM
SCSI
disabled

So take HDD-0 out of it and also on the setting to "boot to other devices" disable that. It should boot to the SATA drive now.

When you actually want to boot to the IDE drive just enable "boot to other devices"

 

[lashepherd]

I'm having the exact same problem. Thanks for the help to all.

 

[aatf510]

Just set SATA as the first booting device.
Removing the IDE disks is stupid.
Reinstalling windows is even more stupid because this won't even fix the problem.

 

[slurmsmackenzie]

when i remove my ide drive with windows on it (in a sata port using an adapter with jumper on master) and hook up my raptor to install windows i get nothing. it shows up at my bios screen, but instead of showing my OS options, it just stops. why won't it recognize my install disc and allow me to install xp on the raptor? i formatted it from windows and it became the F drive. i thought taking my former C drive out would fix that but it didn't... what the hell do i do?

 

[slurmsmackenzie]

bump

 

[bocamojo]

Originally posted by: slurmsmackenzie
when i remove my ide drive with windows on it (in a sata port using an adapter with jumper on master) and hook up my raptor to install windows i get nothing. it shows up at my bios screen, but instead of showing my OS options, it just stops. why won't it recognize my install disc and allow me to install xp on the raptor? i formatted it from windows and it became the F drive. i thought taking my former C drive out would fix that but it didn't... what the hell do i do?

I would keep the IDE drive out for now, and only have the SATA drive connected. I don't think there should be any need to use an adapter and set it to master unless you are using it on a PATA interface. Is that the case? If this is the case, then you are basically dealing with two PATA devices. One will need to be set as a master, and the other a slave (if you have them on the same PATA interface). At any rate, I would go into the BIOS, and make sure your boot order was something like this: floppy (if you have one), then CD, then HDD-0. You should then be able to reboot the system and get XP setup running from CD, and be able to install Windows onto your SATA drive. Then, once you have windows setup on the SATA drive, reconnect the IDE drive and reformat it.