can i reuse my hs/f?

afex2win

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i'm currently running a pre-xp 1.4 amd tbird and am thinking about upgrading to a 2800+ xp

i'd like to save some money by buying oem rather than retail, and i'm wondering if i could just reuse my current hs/f? (it came with my retail 1.4 when i bought it)

thanks.
 

Soulkeeper

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if it is a heatsink with a measely 40mm fan i would recommend upgrading it
 

afex2win

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i've heard that the old tbird 1.4's run hotter than the xps. is there any truth in that?

if thats the case then my current hs/f should be able to take what an xp would dish out, i think.
 

sandorski

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AMD recommends a copper insert(at the least) for their more recent(Barton) XP processors. Your TBird retail heatsink will only be aluminium so it doesn't meet spec. You're better off spending the extra few bucks for the Retail anyway as it gives you a 3 year warranty. OEM cpu's are usually only 30 day.
 

WobbleWobble

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The t-bird 1.4GHz was AMD's hottest running CPU. I'd say you would be fine as long as you aren't overclocking. But I like sandorski's recommendation of buying a retail XP2800+ and getting a new retail HSF and the 3 year warranty.
 

dguy6789

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Originally posted by: WobbleWobble
The t-bird 1.4GHz was AMD's hottest running CPU. I'd say you would be fine as long as you aren't overclocking. But I like sandorski's recommendation of buying a retail XP2800+ and getting a new retail HSF and the 3 year warranty.


The Athlon XP 2100+ Palomino was by far, AMD's hottest cpu. second place is the 2000+ palomino.
 

Gikaseixas

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You better upgrade because the hsf you now have is 100% aluminium and the newer one (for Barton) has a copper base which dissipates heat more efficiently. Even if you decide to rum at stock speeds i would advise you to spend $15.00 to $25.00 to protect your investment
 

WobbleWobble

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Originally posted by: dguy6789

The Athlon XP 2100+ Palomino was by far, AMD's hottest cpu. second place is the 2000+ palomino.

I disagree. Here's a chart of thermal disappation. I am incorrect though as the T-bred 2800+ was hotter than the 1.4GHz T-bird.

Here's a chart, I know it's Tom's but it was a quick search hit and is the same as other charts I have seen.

http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20021001/xp_2800-02.html
 

afex2win

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somebody else that i asked gave me these numbers. i'm not sure where he got them from yet, but are they accurate?

Tbird-1.4G(PGA)
Typical Power Dissipation:
65W
Maximum Power Dissipation:
72W

Athlon XP-2600+(6-A-0 1.92GHz Barton)
Typical Power Dissipation:
53.7W
Maximum Power Dissipation:
68.3W

Athlon XP-2800+(6-A-0 2.08GHz Barton)
Typical Power Dissipation:
53.7W
Maximum Power Dissipation:
68.3W
 

sandorski

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Heat dissipation is only a part of the equation. Also keep in mind that the Barton core is more dense than the TBird core, so though it produces less heat overall, it needs to remove that heat more efficiently. You could get an inexpensive copper base heatsink if you must go OEM, but get a copper base heatsink.
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: afex2win
somebody else that i asked gave me these numbers. i'm not sure where he got them from yet, but are they accurate?

Tbird-1.4G(PGA)
Typical Power Dissipation:
65W
Maximum Power Dissipation:
72W

Athlon XP-2600+(6-A-0 1.92GHz Barton)
Typical Power Dissipation:
53.7W
Maximum Power Dissipation:
68.3W

Athlon XP-2800+(6-A-0 2.08GHz Barton)
Typical Power Dissipation:
53.7W
Maximum Power Dissipation:
68.3W

They may be accurate, but they do not reflect the real world in my experience.

A friend of mine recently bought a 2600+ mobile, so we figured we would try my old OCZ gladiator that I used with my Athlon 1400 back in the day. Big mistake. It couldn't handle the heat output, even at stock speed.

I think the main problem lies in the fact that the cores are now made at 0.13um and are much smaller.
 

CraigRT

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I'd say you can get away with the HSF, but i doubt your CPU will be chillin' in your case... I bet it's sweating most of the time.