Can elevator doors be pryed open as easy as it seems in the movies?

MX2

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You know, you see in the movies about someone prying open the doors to gain access to the shaft. Is it really that easy?
 

JayMassive

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as i'm not john mclane, i've never tried...but i'd think it could be done with proper leverage
 

Canai

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I managed to pry open the doors while in an elevator with the help of another guy once. Elevator stopped dead and we thought it was stuck until it started moving 10 seconds later...
 

FoBoT

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we used to do it in our dorm, at college

i don't know if elevators have changed much in 20 years
 

djheater

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I've stopped numerous elevators and opened the doors between floors. It's not hard, at least in the elevators I tried it on.
 

pontifex

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I have another movie type question.

If you drop a gun will it go off?

I can see if the hammer was pulled back on a pistol, but if the hammer isn't pulled back, how can it go off?

I've read that in the Old West that a lot of people only carried 5 rounds in their six shooters because the round resting in front of the hammer would frequently go off, but they never mentioned if the hammer was pulled back or not.

 

Canai

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Well, I'd think that in a revolver, the hammer would be resting against the round, and a significant shock to the hammer would set off the gun.

I know nothing about guns but it would seem that way to me :)
 

JayMassive

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Originally posted by: pontifex
I have another movie type question.

If you drop a gun will it go off?

I can see if the hammer was pulled back on a pistol, but if the hammer isn't pulled back, how can it go off?

I've read that in the Old West that a lot of people only carried 5 rounds in their six shooters because the round resting in front of the hammer would frequently go off, but they never mentioned if the hammer was pulled back or not.

That's a good point. But at the same time, if you dropped an uzi down a flight of stairs:

1) would it continuously fire?
2) would the bullets automatically seek out the terrorists down below?
 

pontifex

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i thnk it would be more likely to happen with guns without an external hammer, like in a rifle or glock (unless the hammer is pulled back)

i don't know though, thats why i'm asking.
 

ATLien247

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Originally posted by: Canai
I managed to pry open the doors while in an elevator with the help of another guy once. Elevator stopped dead and we thought it was stuck until it started moving 10 seconds later...

I did the same thing at a department store at the local mall, much to my wife's chagrin... :D
 

paulxcook

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Originally posted by: JayMassive
Originally posted by: pontifex
I have another movie type question.

If you drop a gun will it go off?

I can see if the hammer was pulled back on a pistol, but if the hammer isn't pulled back, how can it go off?

I've read that in the Old West that a lot of people only carried 5 rounds in their six shooters because the round resting in front of the hammer would frequently go off, but they never mentioned if the hammer was pulled back or not.

That's a good point. But at the same time, if you dropped an uzi down a flight of stairs:

1) would it continuously fire?
2) would the bullets automatically seek out the terrorists down below?

Are you referencing True Lies? I don't think that scene was realistic, no.
 
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Originally posted by: JayMassive
Originally posted by: pontifex
I have another movie type question.

If you drop a gun will it go off?

I can see if the hammer was pulled back on a pistol, but if the hammer isn't pulled back, how can it go off?

I've read that in the Old West that a lot of people only carried 5 rounds in their six shooters because the round resting in front of the hammer would frequently go off, but they never mentioned if the hammer was pulled back or not.

That's a good point. But at the same time, if you dropped an uzi down a flight of stairs:

1) would it continuously fire?
2) would the bullets automatically seek out the terrorists down below?

Naw, Jamie Lee Curtis been practicing day in and day out to do that scene.
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: JayMassive
Originally posted by: pontifex
I have another movie type question.

If you drop a gun will it go off?

I can see if the hammer was pulled back on a pistol, but if the hammer isn't pulled back, how can it go off?

I've read that in the Old West that a lot of people only carried 5 rounds in their six shooters because the round resting in front of the hammer would frequently go off, but they never mentioned if the hammer was pulled back or not.

That's a good point. But at the same time, if you dropped an uzi down a flight of stairs:

1) would it continuously fire?
2) would the bullets automatically seek out the terrorists down below?

According to Jamie Lee Curtis ... it would.

EDIT:

holy ish I was beat not once, but twice!
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: MX2
Topic Title: Can elevator doors be pryed open as easy as it seems in the movies?

You know, you see in the movies about someone prying open the doors to gain access to the shaft. Is it really that easy?

It's just a very large fan belt like belt that closes the doors until they trip switches that the door is shut.
 

Matt2

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Originally posted by: suicidalpigeon
Originally posted by: JayMassive
Originally posted by: pontifex
I have another movie type question.

If you drop a gun will it go off?

I can see if the hammer was pulled back on a pistol, but if the hammer isn't pulled back, how can it go off?

I've read that in the Old West that a lot of people only carried 5 rounds in their six shooters because the round resting in front of the hammer would frequently go off, but they never mentioned if the hammer was pulled back or not.

That's a good point. But at the same time, if you dropped an uzi down a flight of stairs:

1) would it continuously fire?
2) would the bullets automatically seek out the terrorists down below?

Naw, Jamie Lee Curtis been practicing day in and day out to do that scene.

She should have practiced more on her strip scene.
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: Canai
Well, I'd think that in a revolver, the hammer would be resting against the round, and a significant shock to the hammer would set off the gun.

I know nothing about guns but it would seem that way to me :)

some revolvers yes, most newer ones not so much. depends a lot on the angle it falls and the point of impact. and if the hammer is cocked, yes it will go off. a ruger blackhawk 357 single action western revolver has a "first nock" int eh hammer for loading, and it acts as a pseudo safety. you still dont want to have a round under that just in case, but its better than the hammer pin resting on the bullet. they recalled all those with the offer of a free safety add on. my friend turned it down, and its the only one ive seen without the safety conversion in 10 or 12 years. my ruger P89 semiauto doesnt share that problem, since the whole firing pin is removed from the equation when the safety is on. i still wont toss it at the ground when its loaded tho, just in case.