Can conservatives please explain this to me

NFS4

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Granted, I know this clip is from The Daily Show and they have a HIGHLY liberal slant, but the full commentary is from Rove in both clips. Nothing has been edited -- it's all his words.

http://www.comedycentral.com/v...x.jhtml?videoId=184086

What makes Kaine different from Palin on qualifications? It also is quite interesting in general how members of both parties latch onto VP picks and shout the party lines.

Bonus points go to anyone who can justify Bill O'Reilly's comments in the second part of the clip -- or the entire clip in general :)
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Granted, I know this clip is from The Daily Show and they have a HIGHLY liberal slant, but the full commentary is from Rove in both clips. Nothing has been edited -- it's all his words.

http://www.comedycentral.com/v...x.jhtml?videoId=184086

What makes Kaine different from Palin on qualifications?

It also is quite interesting in general how member of both parties latch onto VP picks and shout the party lines.

Bonus points go to anyone who can justify Bil O'Reilly's comments in the second half of the clip.

I'll go with a party with 2 unexperienced people vice a ticket with only 1.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: NFS4
Granted, I know this clip is from The Daily Show and they have a HIGHLY liberal slant, but the full commentary is from Rove in both clips. Nothing has been edited -- it's all his words.

http://www.comedycentral.com/v...x.jhtml?videoId=184086

What makes Kaine different from Palin on qualifications?

It also is quite interesting in general how member of both parties latch onto VP picks and shout the party lines.

Bonus points go to anyone who can justify Bil O'Reilly's comments in the second half of the clip.

I'll go with a party with 2 unexperienced people vice a ticket with only 1.
What experience does McCain have as an Executive. Oh yeah he was a POW.
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: NFS4
Granted, I know this clip is from The Daily Show and they have a HIGHLY liberal slant, but the full commentary is from Rove in both clips. Nothing has been edited -- it's all his words.

http://www.comedycentral.com/v...x.jhtml?videoId=184086

What makes Kaine different from Palin on qualifications?

It also is quite interesting in general how member of both parties latch onto VP picks and shout the party lines.

Bonus points go to anyone who can justify Bil O'Reilly's comments in the second half of the clip.

I'll go with a party with 2 unexperienced people vice a ticket with only 1.
What experience does McCain have as an Executive. Oh yeah he was a POW.



/golfclap
 

CallMeJoe

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The difference between his opinions on Kaine and Palin? It's as clear as the difference between (D) and (R)!!!


Like you expect honesty and consistency from old TurdBlossom? Or Mr. No Spin?
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: lupi
I'll go with a party with 2 unexperienced people vice a ticket with only 1.
Deflect/Spin/Ignore

Papa Rove would be so proud.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: NFS4
Granted, I know this clip is from The Daily Show and they have a HIGHLY liberal slant, but the full commentary is from Rove in both clips. Nothing has been edited -- it's all his words.

http://www.comedycentral.com/v...x.jhtml?videoId=184086

What makes Kaine different from Palin on qualifications?

It also is quite interesting in general how member of both parties latch onto VP picks and shout the party lines.

Bonus points go to anyone who can justify Bil O'Reilly's comments in the second half of the clip.

I'll go with a party with 2 unexperienced people vice a ticket with only 1.
What experience does McCain have as an Executive. Oh yeah he was a POW.



/golfclap loses grip on branch and falls out of his tree
:laugh:

 

UberNeuman

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: lupi
I'll go with a party with 2 unexperienced people vice a ticket with only 1.
Deflect/Spin/Ignore

Papa Rove would be so proud.

Hell, lupi may be Hot Karl...

/and waitin' for a fresh loaf...


 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: NFS4
Granted, I know this clip is from The Daily Show and they have a HIGHLY liberal slant, but the full commentary is from Rove in both clips. Nothing has been edited -- it's all his words.

http://www.comedycentral.com/v...x.jhtml?videoId=184086

What makes Kaine different from Palin on qualifications?

It also is quite interesting in general how member of both parties latch onto VP picks and shout the party lines.

Bonus points go to anyone who can justify Bil O'Reilly's comments in the second half of the clip.

I'll go with a party with 2 unexperienced people vice a ticket with only 1.
What experience does McCain have as an Executive. Oh yeah he was a POW.

As stated in the other thread - leadership training via the military is much better than OJT running a community center.

In the legislature, it would be interesting to see the percentage of PRESENT votes each has done in their careers.

 

nageov3t

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Obama picking Kaine would have doubled down on his lack of experience... he picked Biden to balance out the ticket by adding someone who's a party insider.

McCain picking Palin, likewise, balances out his ticket by adding someone new and from outside Washington to balance out McCain, who's been in congress longer than I've been alive.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
In the legislature, it would be interesting to see the percentage of PRESENT votes each has done in their careers.
Even more interesting is how many votes they were absent for.

McSame - 63.8% - More than any other Senator by roughly 15%.
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Obama picking Kaine would have doubled down on his lack of experience... he picked Biden to balance out the ticket by adding someone who's a party insider.

McCain picking Palin, likewise, balances out his ticket by adding someone new and from outside Washington to balance out McCain, who's been in congress longer than I've been alive.

That's not the point -- we're not talking about balancing out the ticket. The point [that Karl was making] was simply to the qualifications to be VP and the ability to be president should the need arise. Palin was propped up as sufficient, while Tim Kaine was singled out as man who had little cred.

Based on that criteria, what's the big difference?
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Obama picking Kaine would have doubled down on his lack of experience... he picked Biden to balance out the ticket by adding someone who's a party insider.

McCain picking Palin, likewise, balances out his ticket by adding someone new and from outside Washington to balance out McCain, who's been in congress longer than I've been alive.

Shh.... obviously that couldn't be part of any context here. I mean - his statements were side by side....
 

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: loki8481
Obama picking Kaine would have doubled down on his lack of experience... he picked Biden to balance out the ticket by adding someone who's a party insider.

McCain picking Palin, likewise, balances out his ticket by adding someone new and from outside Washington to balance out McCain, who's been in congress longer than I've been alive.

That's not the point -- we're not talking about balancing out the ticket. The point [that Karl was making] was simply to the qualifications to be VP and the ability to be president should the need arise. Palin was propped up as sufficient, while Tim Kaine was singled out as man who had little cred.

Based on that criteria, what's the big difference?

I'm now a McCain supporter, but I can honestly say what we all know:

Rove is a political operative who will say just about anything (and maybe mean only 75% of it) just to win an election.

There's no pretending about this, no amount of backtracking can explain it away. He was either being disingenuious before, or he's being disengenuous now (or maybe even both).
 

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: loki8481
Obama picking Kaine would have doubled down on his lack of experience... he picked Biden to balance out the ticket by adding someone who's a party insider.

McCain picking Palin, likewise, balances out his ticket by adding someone new and from outside Washington to balance out McCain, who's been in congress longer than I've been alive.

That's not the point -- we're not talking about balancing out the ticket. The point [that Karl was making] was simply to the qualifications to be VP and the ability to be president should the need arise. Palin was propped up as sufficient, while Tim Kaine was singled out as man who had little cred.

Based on that criteria, what's the big difference?

Why do you ask questions you already know the answer to? Karl Rove is a partisan blowhard who, depending on whether someone has a D or an R after their name, changes his assessment accordingly.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

As stated in the other thread - leadership training via the military is much better than OJT running a community center.

Give me the community organizer any day of the week. I want a president who has the independance and values reflected in the choice to be a community organizer.

We have more than enough militarization and need a president to get the MI complex somewhat back in check, not to be its enabler and chief lobbyist, in the White House.
 

OrByte

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Does McCains "Leadership Training" also include the military training provided by North Vietnam? :)
 

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I love Rove. Its obvious the GOP is shaking in their boots because they are about to get totally thrown out of government all together. There will be a very HIGH democratic majority in congress with a dem president.
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Obama picking Kaine would have doubled down on his lack of experience... he picked Biden to balance out the ticket by adding someone who's a party insider.

McCain picking Palin, likewise, balances out his ticket by adding someone new and from outside Washington to balance out McCain, who's been in congress longer than I've been alive.

Better duck, I said the same thing and the loons are out in full force.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: OrByte
Does McCains "Leadership Training" also include the military training provided by North Vietnam? :)
Actually when I say "Did you know he was a POW" it's making fun of his supporters not him. I'm sure that his time spent as a POW will serve him well if he does get elected though I'd think it's an experience that he'd rather forgo if he had it to do over again.
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: OrByte
Does McCains "Leadership Training" also include the military training provided by North Vietnam? :)
Actually when I say "Did you know he was a POW" it's making fun of his supporters not him. I'm sure that his time spent as a POW will serve him well if he does get elected though I'd think it's an experience that he'd rather forgo if he had it to do over again.

well....I was actually making fun of him :eek:

and I didn't bother to think on whether or not his POW time would serve him well. I'd just assume he got fvcked in the head by being a POW for 5+ years...and also, I think the NV must have shortened his arms or something too...

:D

 

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Obama picking Kaine would have doubled down on his lack of experience... he picked Biden to balance out the ticket by adding someone who's a party insider.

McCain picking Palin, likewise, balances out his ticket by adding someone new and from outside Washington to balance out McCain, who's been in congress longer than I've been alive.
Are you playing devil's advocate or do you believe that?