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Can congress vote to expel states?

Sunburn74

Sunburn74

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Perhaps a dumb question but if the filibuster is eliminated and congress really wanted to, can congress vote to expel states from the union? Or does that run into legal issues? Clearly congress can add states, but can they kick them out?
 
BoomerD said:
We could just build Trump's wall around the state...keep their particular brand of crazy contained...
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I guess we could.
I was just in Texas a week ago, I like it. Very polite people, pretty good BBQ. No one cares if your wearing a mask or not, though the majority seem to wear them inside. I could live there without any trouble adjusting.
 
Greenman said:
I guess we could.
I was just in Texas a week ago, I like it. Very polite people, pretty good BBQ. No one cares if your wearing a mask or not, though the majority seem to wear them inside. I could live there without any trouble adjusting.
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There has been discussion about " The Great Republic of Tex-ass" seceding from the United States for decades...I say, Let them.
 
Greenman said:
If that's what they really want, it's fine with me.
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It's not what they really want. Also, if you think Brexit has been bad for the UK so far that's just a small taste of the catastrophe waiting for Texas if they tried to go their own way.

Texas is one of the few red states that is a net federal taxpayer so they aren't dependent on the rest of the country the way most conservative areas are, but much like the UK their economy is deeply interwoven into the rest of the US and the sudden appearance of a customs border would wreck havoc.
 
fskimospy said:
It's not what they really want. Also, if you think Brexit has been bad for the UK so far that's just a small taste of the catastrophe waiting for Texas if they tried to go their own way.

Texas is one of the few red states that is a net federal taxpayer so they aren't dependent on the rest of the country the way most conservative areas are, but much like the UK their economy is deeply interwoven into the rest of the US and the sudden appearance of a customs border would wreck havoc.
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Like I said, if that's what they want it's fine with me. They make the choice, they live with the consequences. This is what majority rule is all about, it's democracy.
 
Greenman said:
Like I said, if that's what they want it's fine with me. They make the choice, they live with the consequences. This is what majority rule is all about, it's democracy.
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Well I have to say I’m happy to see conservatives once again embracing majority rule, haha. Do you think we can get it to apply to any state legislatures, the federal congress, or the presidency?

While Texas isn’t permitted to choose if it leaves or not I think Congress should grant the request of states that wish to secede so long as that request comes as part of a popular referendum and not a function of the state legislatures. (After all, in many states the legislatures do not represent the will of the majority)
 
Greenman said:
Doesn't work that way. If they go they take their toys with them.
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THEIR toys...sure. reroute all the pipelines going INTO Tex-ass...shut off all coming out.
I'd wager Loozeeyana and Alabama wouldn't bitch about more refinery jobs.

Remove ALL federal property. not real estate, obviously...that would have to be sold...or destroyed. That means all US military personnel and equipment...which would wipe out all thoae sweet paying gubmint jobs for civilians, as well as the assorted civilian jobs that depend on military bases for their survival.
The BIGGEST loss would be the Johnson Space Center...but that too could be relocated.
 
BoomerD said:
THEIR toys...sure. reroute all the pipelines going INTO Tex-ass...shut off all coming out.
I'd wager Loozeeyana and Alabama wouldn't bitch about more refinery jobs.

Remove ALL federal property. not real estate, obviously...that would have to be sold...or destroyed. That means all US military personnel and equipment...which would wipe out all thoae sweet paying gubmint jobs for civilians, as well as the assorted civilian jobs that depend on military bases for their survival.
The BIGGEST loss would be the Johnson Space Center...but that too could be relocated.
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Ok? What do you want me to say? You were the one who suggested a wall, do you want Texas to be part of the union or not?
 
fskimospy said:
Well I have to say I’m happy to see conservatives once again embracing majority rule, haha. Do you think we can get it to apply to any state legislatures, the federal congress, or the presidency?

While Texas isn’t permitted to choose if it leaves or not I think Congress should grant the request of states that wish to secede so long as that request comes as part of a popular referendum and not a function of the state legislatures. (After all, in many states the legislatures do not represent the will of the majority)
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I'm fine with majority rule, within the confines of the constitution. And before you jump all over that, recall that not many years ago, California, the bastion of liberal policies, voted to ban gay marriage. What mechanism prevented that from happening?
I'd also like to take a moment to point out that Brexit was a function of a healthy democracy.
 
Can Texas kick those yankees out first? Funny how them yankees love to talk trash but move down here in droves and not stay in those paradises they love to boast about. Do as you say and not as you do, eh?
 
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