Can anyone with ADSL answer me this?

[BoomAM]

Hi,
I`m soon getting ADSL, no more 56k for me, anyway, i was wondering, do you have to have one micro filter per phone socket, or per "thing" attached to the phone.
I have 3 sockets in my house, and heres how they are hooked up.

Main socket - Sky Box, Answer Phone.
Extension 1, from main socket - Phone
Extension 2, from Extension 1 - PC, phone

How many micro filter will i need then. 3? or more?

Thanks in advance guys.

 

[Novgrod]

you need one filter per socket. so if your answering machine and phone are both in the same phone jack, you need exactly one filter for that jack.

 

[BoomAM]

So i`ll need 3 then?
Thanks for the quick reply

 

[DannyBoy]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
Hi,
I`m soon getting ADSL, no more 56k for me, anyway, i was wondering, do you have to have one micro filter per phone socket, or per "thing" attached to the phone.
I have 3 sockets in my house, and heres how they are hooked up.

Main socket - Sky Box, Answer Phone.
Extension 1, from main socket - Phone
Extension 2, from Extension 1 - PC, phone

How many micro filter will i need then. 3? or more?

Thanks in advance guys.

You will need 1 micro filter per socket, unless your extension 1 is a plug in extension into the main socket.
If thats the case then you CAN only use 1 on the main socket for all the phones, but this will either require u needing another line to be run to the adsl modem, or for you to have another on the 2nd extension for the modem (Which is what i did when i used to have adsl).

I hope you can understand that

Dan

 

[texazed]

If you have access to the service box you may only need ONE. Here is what I did:

Went to my service box (customer side only) and installed a filter on the pair that serves all my telephones.
I bypassed the dedicated pair that is used only for my DSL. I have a dedicated jack for my DSL.

 

[BoomAM]

So...........How should i set it up then?
The 1st extension is plugged into the main socket. The 2nd is plugged into the 1st one.
So will it work if i plug a filter into each socket, or can i get away with just one filter, on the main socket.

 

[texazed]

one filter on the main socket then run your splitter

each socket with anything except DSL needs one filter

You need three filters if you have three phones in three separate jacks.

If you are getting an install kit they usually send a bunch.

I have extra if needed

 

[Novgrod]

depening on where you get your DSL, you should get something like six filters which would render all this discussion moot

i'm a little confused with terminology:

socket = jack, right?

and you're saying that your phone line is set up in a daisy chain, and you have three phone jacks in three separate locations in your house, no?

 

[BoomAM]

Socket = jack, correct.

Im getting my ADSL with Tiscali. They give you a free modem/connection set up + 2 micro filters.

So let me get this strait.
I need one per socket.
One for the main socket with the sky box & phone on it.
One for the 2nd socket with a phone on it.
One for the 3rd socket, that has a phone, and will have the ADSL modem/PC on it.
Correct? or not.

 

[DannyBoy]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
Socket = jack, correct.

Im getting my ADSL with Tiscali. They give you a free modem/connection set up + 2 micro filters.

So let me get this strait.
I need one per socket.
One for the main socket with the sky box & phone on it.
One for the 2nd socket with a phone on it.
One for the 3rd socket, that has a phone, and will have the ADSL modem/PC on it.
Correct? or not.

Correct.

It is possible to do with just 1, and could save you some cash.

If moneys not a problem save yourself a little hassle and buy three.

I did it with one to save money.

Ta Ta
Dan

 

[human2k]

With cable, I dont worry about installing microfilters, plus theres no pass/username login screen to get online. Too bad comcast jacking up the price to $57 a month for cable DSL modem kit should be here next monday.

 

[texazed]

human2k get a braodband router and you wont have to log in anymore. My router stores my user name and password when you turn it on it automatically logs me in.

 

[LeeTJ]

i don't know about other companies but verizon sends you 3 or 4 filters as part of the package so it's really not an issue of price.

you will need a filter for each jack on the same line as your dsl that will have analog devices attached to it.

do not put a filter on the specific line going into your PC or router tho.

also, for dsl, a router is really convenient because you won't have to worry about loging in etc. it will be always on.

good surfing dude.

 

[texazed]

Yeah, My SBC kit came with about 10 filters One is even for wall mount applications

 

[Coherence]

Different providers do things different ways, but the one I work for has two forms of connection: Splittered and Filtered.

If you are too far from the central office, you need a splittered connection (because the distance makes the signal too weak to run on a single pair), in which case they run wire to an individual jack from your protector (or "NID") for the computer to connect to. (If an existing unused pair inside the house can be used, they usually will do that to avoid running cable.) Other jacks will not have any DSL signal on them, only that one. There is no need for filters on the other jacks.

In the case of a Filtered connection, the signal is strong enough that there is no need to split the line at the NID, and you can actually plug your DSL modem into ANY jack in your home on that line. However, if the signal is strong enough to cause interference with your regular phones, you need to install filters on any jack not used by the computer. (My company provides three in-line filters for desk phones, and one wall-mounted filter for the kitchen phone.) Additional filters are pretty cheap, about $15 for an extra set of 3+1 (at least, that's what we charge).

 

[lenjack]

I've seen the filters at a computer show for $1.50.

 

[BoomAM]

"do not put a filter on the specific line going into your PC or router tho."
What exactely do you mean. The socket that the ADSL modem will be using, will also have a phone plugged into it.

 

[T9D]

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[BoomAM]

The socket in my room(where the pc is), has a splitter that splits the single socket, into a double one.
So, if i understand correctly,
I keep it as it is.
Plug the ADSL modem into one of the sockets, and a filter on the other, which then goes to the phone.

 

[cobain]

Make sure the line upto your adsl only has a filter on the very end, then plug computer into dsl socket on filter and phone into the other.

All other sockets branching off need a filter if being used with a telephony device, but it is very important not to plug any extension into a filter untill the end as this will filter out the adsl signal.

If you extensions are plugged into the front of the phone socket then the best thing to do is plug a line spliter (doubler) into the master socket. Plug the extension into one side and then a filter into the other side, for Sky and the phone etc. Then on the end of that extension plug in another spliter. Again plug the other extension into one side and then a filter into the other one (For phone etc). Then on the end of the last extension plug in a filter and plug in the dsl modem and ur phone.

Make sure you dont exceed the REN value for your BT line, as this could cause problems. Also becareful not to buy cheaper filters and line spliters and these can cause problems with BT lines etc.

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
"do not put a filter on the specific line going into your PC or router tho."
What exactely do you mean. The socket that the ADSL modem will be using, will also have a phone plugged into it.

then you will need to use a splitter have the filter the socket that you will plug the phone into and not the one that will go to the computer or router.

 

[cobain]

With british ADSL the filters give you a ADSL socket and a Standard phone socket, so a line spliter isnt really needed for the last part

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
Hi,
I`m soon getting ADSL, no more 56k for me, anyway, i was wondering, do you have to have one micro filter per phone socket, or per "thing" attached to the phone.
I have 3 sockets in my house, and heres how they are hooked up.

Main socket - Sky Box, Answer Phone.
Extension 1, from main socket - Phone
Extension 2, from Extension 1 - PC, phone

How many micro filter will i need then. 3? or more?

Thanks in advance guys.

ok, i'm going over your connections here. it's important that you don't have a filter between your PC and the line going out of the house ANYWHERE.

for eg. main socket is on a separate branch than ext 1, yes??

it looks to me like you have phone line coming into house and split. branch MainA goes to Answer Phone and branch MainB goes to Ext 1.

Extension 1 is split and branch ext1a goes to phone and ext1b goes to extension 2.

at extension 2 you are split again, ext2a goes to phone and ext2b goes to PC.

DO not put filters on MainB, ext1b or ext2b. if you have a filter on any of those you will not get a dsl connection.

the purpose of the filter is to filter out the digital noise (that is your internet connection) from you analog phones. if you put a filter between the PC and the mainline outside the house you will have NO internet connection.

Hope this is clear.

 

[BoomAM]

So,
Filter on main socket, and 2nd socket.
And on the 3rd socket(where the pc is),
A plug a filter into the first jack w/ the phone, and just the modem into the other one.
Why does it matter if the ADSL modem has a filter on it? It shouldnt affect it should it?

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
So,
Filter on main socket, and 2nd socket.
And on the 3rd socket(where the pc is),
A plug a filter into the first jack w/ the phone, and just the modem into the other one.
Why does it matter if the ADSL modem has a filter on it? It shouldnt affect it should it?

if you put a filter between the adsl modem and the mainline ANYWHERE, you will not get internet connectivity. the whole purpose of the filter is to filter out Internet stuff for the phones.