Can anyone explain my low 3dMark 2001 scores?

[Imported]

My Scores

I'm not sure if it seems right.. It's around 6850.

I've OC'd it to 240/500 (Haven't pushed any further yet) and when I compare against other video cards, it's 1000 below other Ti200s..

I'm using the 23.12 drivers, vsync off, all AA off.. Any help? Or is it normal?

 

[vedin]

Are you getting good frame rates in games? As in, normal frame-rates. If so, I wouldn't let a benchmark that you're only going to be, (hopefully), watching about once a month get to ya so much.

 

[DefRef]

I've got my PNY Ti200 running at 240/460 on 23.11 and I scored 7122. Our scores look fairly close, with yours naturally a hair faster, but the biggest disparities are I beat you SEVERELY on Dragothic-High (60.8-44.7) and Vertex Shader (54.0-17.9). Wow! Those 2 alone are what's costing you nearly 300 points.

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Is it normal that my Radeon 7500 (330/600) absolutely crushes a GF3 Ti200 in the vertex shader section? I'm getting 51.5 FPS to your 17. Otherwise, your scores seem OK, although Dragothic high does seem lowish.

-Ice

PS: I only get 0.3 MSprites in the point sprite speed test, comparing it with other Radeon 7500 it is about even, any idea why it's so much lower than a Ti200? Is it done in software by any chance as opposed to hardware for the GF3?

 

[Imported]

Hmm.. Def's Ti200 Vertex Shader was higher than your 7500s.. Maybe it's my Ti200..

Def, could you happen to tell me what settings you have on? I'm not sure if I maybe disabled the vertex shading or what not since it seems low.. very low.

 

[DefRef]

Correction: I'm running 220/460. Any faster and 3DM2K1 lunches up.

Compare scores here

 

[merlocka]

Vertex shader and Nature scores seem low... dunno why.

 

[FlamingPanther]

My Scores

Do you get any artifacts or tearing?
A friend of mine has a Geforce 3 and if he overclocks the mem too high the
Vertex Shader, Nature, Dragothic - High, and High poly 8 scores
take a dive for some reason...

Like the card is detecting errors and trying to correct them (like ECC) or something

Just a thought.

 

[chizow]

Took a quick glance at your Sig Rig and the posts to this point....you're not OCing your system at all right? If thats the case, then your marks seem about right. Its clearly your T&L marks that are keeping your score lower than everyone elses, probably the nature test and the high detail scores. If you aren't OCing your FSB your scores are probably pretty close to where they should be. I think I had around 6700 on my system when I ran it stock with no OCing the card or the system or any tweaks. After all my tweaks and OCing, I stopped around 8800...probably coulda broke 9K, but I got sick of playing 3dmark2k1

Chiz

 

[Imported]

Yea, I'm not OCing it at all.. it's a XP2000.. Saw no reason to OC it.. but would that be the reason for the low scores in Vertex and Dragothic?

 

[Killrose]

FlammingPanther, if you overclock too much, you have errors, artifacts, internal core/mem chip problems that actually will slow down everything. Some people think that the high numbers make everything run fast, but that is not true. Once you start to cause corruption, frame rates and benchmarks suffer. It might occur after the card heats-up a little bit before this happens.

I remember trying to push my ol' TNT too far. Higher clock rates may make you feel better, but when you look at the benchmark numbers, sometimes backing off a bit makes a big difference.

 

[Imported]

Well, I have it at 240/530 now.. Little improvements in the Vertex and Dragothic.. but everything is up a bit. Played UT, Q3, CS for hours with no artifacts, glitches, lockups.. Now to get those two things up..

 

[Jman13]

Wow...that's odd. I have my 1700+ (non OCed) and a ti 200 @ 233/505, and I beat you by 600 pts. Notice that you are faster in Car Chase, and Lobby, but I am killing your scores in Dragothic and Nature. Nature is almost entirely dependent on your video card...it looks like some part of the GF3 features are disabled on your card, since your Vertex Shader score is 2.5x slower than mine, which it shouldn't be, considering the same card, and a faster processor. Are you running at 4x AGP? Just a shot in the dark. Something certainly seems amiss, since 3 benchmarks seem to be affected, while the rest are fine.

Here are my scores.

 

[oldfart]

I agree with the others. I compared it to My Score. There is something wrong in the Dragothic, Nature and Vertex shaders dept. Try to reinstall DX8 and the nV drivers.

 

[FlamingPanther]

Amen Killrose

Imported, try dropping your memory to around 480-460 and see what changes.
Not that it would help, but Anand could only get his Ti200 520 before things went funky.
Just a thought...

 

[Imported]

I'll drop the memory right now, then re-test.. 4x AGP is enabled.

I reinstalled DX8 last night, I'll try reinstalling the drivers as well after.

 

[Imported]

Dropped the memory, the Dragothic, Nature, and Vertex scores dropped a bit as well..

Here's my settings via NVMax, those that are checked I mean (Maybe someone could find something?)

System
- AGP
4X
Fast-writes
Side band addressing
- Clocks
Core - 240
Memory - 480 (Can hit 530 with no problems)
- Color Adjustments - All Default
- Overlays - All Default
- Misc.
Windows 2000 + Athlon stability fix
Hardware accelerated cursor
Dirext X
- Anti Aliasing
Auto
- Textures - All Default
- V-Sync
Off
- Miscellaneous
Fog Table Emulation
Open GL
- Anti Aliasing
Off
- Textures - All Default
- V-Sync
Always Off
- Miscellaneous
Buffer regoin extension
Buffer region use video memory

I don't know if anyone else is using NVMax though.. I'll try going to the 23.11s right now.

 

[Imported]

About the same scores after installing the 23.11s..

 

[Jman13]

It's been shown that fast-writes can actually decrease your performance, especially at 4x AGP, and cause stability problems. Try disabling Fast-Writes and Sideband addressing and see what happens.

 

[FlamingPanther]

strange......
have you tried the 27.xx drivers?
If mem is not the thing i would say crank it back up to 530,

(this is not really related, but I had to know)
Just out of curiousity i ran 3dmark several times last night with different Mem/core speeds....
(I have an 8500 with Hynix 4 ns RAM)
it would start to get artifacts around 570 (max 590)
it will run at 564 without them, but
the higher I got the higher most scores went until
I hit 590 and the nature and vertex shader tests DOVE
I mean like from 44 fps in nature to 30 something
and Vertex would go from 55 to around 37,
but everything else would scale up correspondingly

Strange,
oh well.

BTW: Athlon Stability Fix? is that like the Via PCI Latency fix?

 

[FlamingPanther]

Neva Mind about the 27.xx
http://www.warp2search.net/article.php?sid=2571&mode=thread&order=0

 

[Imported]

Tried disabling fast writes and side band addressing, same results basically.. I bet it's just some setting I'm overlooking..

 

[tapir]

might wanna check on your AGP Aperture size, try fiddling with it.

 

[aircasper]

okay, i have something that may help you guys out. if you're feeling like you're system is just not fast enough for you, take a look at my scores and then tell me how you feel. i can't believe people are complaining about some of their scores!

blazing turbo scores

 

[Imported]

Messed with the AGP Aperture, from 64 for 256.. Not much of a difference..