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Can an MP3 sound better than a CD?

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Reikon

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Originally posted by: Skiguy411
I got a really cool binaural recording. Its from a fireworks show. However, I dont have a host. Can anyone host it for me or direct me to a host that would host a 10.8 mb sound file?

EDIT: Actually I have a 80 mb folder full of this stuff.

I could host it and see how fast it eats up my bandwidth. :p
 

0roo0roo

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Sep 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: glen
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: glen
Someone is going to say headphones, but - Headphones lose stereo, so it literally sounds like a 3D movie looks when you take those glasses off.
Now, how you are going to say what anything in the movie looks like, especially in detail, escapes me.
Same thing with headphones.
near field listening - the speakers on your desk 12" in front of you are going to have AMAZING detail.

It is amazing, we can watch people in this thread rave about headphones, and complain about MP3s.
Heaphones lose stereo, mp3 loses something a lot less important.

how do headphones lose stereo? A good set of headphones is able to fully mimic left, right, front, and rear sounds...

Stereo requires that you hear part of the left and right channel in both ears.

cross feed plugins for winamp for those headphone users... solves the stereo bit:p
http://www.naivesoftware.com/
http://www.stereo-balance.net/index.php?mod=wiki&w=headplug



i use the first one, works great.

as for that matches mp3, sounded pretty nice. could follow the effect perfectly. now if only games were that accurate.
 

glen

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Apr 28, 2000
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Originally posted by: EvilYoda
alright, all this talk and I'm confused...am I missing some links here? I want something to listen to dammit! I didn't spend all this money on speakers for nothing!

:p
It is a Binaural recording, so you have to listen to it on headphones to "hear" the imaging.
 

EvilYoda

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Apr 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: glen
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
alright, all this talk and I'm confused...am I missing some links here? I want something to listen to dammit! I didn't spend all this money on speakers for nothing!

:p
It is a Binaural recording, so you have to listen to it on headphones to "hear" the imaging.

Oh, I thought there was some fancy MP3 out there...I've heard that binaural stuff already. <sigh>

Thanks though :)
 

KoolAidKid

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Apr 29, 2002
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Binaural recordings are certainly one step closer to being in the room with the band, so to speak. You can get nearly as good an effect by applying filters to each of the stereo channels to spatialize them. In fact, you can easily (well, sort of easily) do this yourself. Get the filters by googling for "MIT HRTF", write some code to convolve your stereo files with the filters, and there you go. You will also have to learn some DSP along the way.

MIT has a publicly available set of HRTFs (Head-related Transfer Functions) that are an approximation of the effect that the head has on a sound traveling toward the ears. You can simulate the left channel at a point 5 meters to the left of your head, for example, and the right channel 5 meters to your right.

What would be really cool (and useful) is to set up software to decode a Dolby Digital 5.1 stream, and spatialize each of the channels in the appropriate place so you could do realistic surround sound over headphones. Actually, now that I think about it, I'm sure that this already exists.

Anyway, cool recordings.
 

iamme

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Jul 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: JoeKing&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;
Originally posted by: glen&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;
Originally posted by: JoeKing&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;yup $200 cans are comparable to a bling bling audiophile speaker setup.
&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;No they aren't.&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;Read the article I posted for why they are not good.
&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;I said comparable. You lose out on the weak sound stage reproduction, but other than that a set of hi end headphones are just as good in accurate sound reproduction as an midrange audiophile's speaker setup.&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;--edit--&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;Also headphones can decently reproduce a sound stage if the proper recording equipment is used. For Example listen to this with headphones on
&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;HOLY FVCK! THAT IS FREAKY! &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;:Q&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;I had to take off my headphones. You could practically follow the sound around you..as if someone was actually there. INSANE. :D

link is down....anyone have some more cool binaural recordings?
 

JoeKing

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Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: JoeKing&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;
Originally posted by: glen&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;
Originally posted by: JoeKing&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;yup $200 cans are comparable to a bling bling audiophile speaker setup.
&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;No they aren't.&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;Read the article I posted for why they are not good.
&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;I said comparable. You lose out on the weak sound stage reproduction, but other than that a set of hi end headphones are just as good in accurate sound reproduction as an midrange audiophile's speaker setup.&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;--edit--&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;Also headphones can decently reproduce a sound stage if the proper recording equipment is used. For Example listen to this with headphones on
&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;HOLY FVCK! THAT IS FREAKY! &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;:Q&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;I had to take off my headphones. You could practically follow the sound around you..as if someone was actually there. INSANE. :D

link is down....anyone have some more cool binaural recordings?

Not sure if all the links work...ead had the recordings
 

sharkeeper

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Jan 13, 2001
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Most runs are brought in on an Otari MTR-90 III.

Encoding / post processing is performed with hardware that is under strict NDA.

Cheers!
 

Crusty

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Sep 30, 2001
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Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: sharkeeper
Thick As A Brick

Speaking of bricks...

I think I see some Roger Waters reels in the corner... :evil:

Cheers!

As much as is possible within the constraints of heterosexuality, I love you :heart: :p

I think my ears just had an orgasm...:heart:
 

glen

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Apr 28, 2000
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Sharkeeper, what is your source and what encoding algorithm are you using?
There are about 40 minuets of "Thick As A Brick" missing. The song is 45 mins long.
 

sharkeeper

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Jan 13, 2001
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Sharkeeper, what is your source and what encoding algorithm are you using?
There are about 40 minuets of "Thick As A Brick" missing. The song is 45 mins long.

LOL like I can really post a file that big!

Everyone should consider this a treat as I'm really not supposed to tell anyone about this, period.

As far as this goes, consider these ripped on an emachine with audio catalyst using Xing!

EDIT: Content removed.

Cheers!
 

glen

Lifer
Apr 28, 2000
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Thank you so much for the files.
I hope I do not seem less than gratful.
I do understand that the 45 min version would be a bit much to host.