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Can a teacher get in problem, if he/she calls you a liar?

Well, in Ohio, it's unlikely that anyone will get in trouble in that case. Accusations are usually not grounds for trouble.
 
It's amazing the power children have over teachers these days. No wonder the system doesn't work.
 
why would they get in trouble for that? It's uncool, the parents/kid in question has a right to be mad, but unless they're consistantly a bad teacher they certainly shouldn't get in trouble for one comment, however uncouth.
 
And if your principal calls you a racist? What then? Alert the press, call the NAACP, oh wait.

Seriously though, what's the big deal about your teacher calling you a liar? Whoopie, stop being so damn sensitive.
 
How about a hypothetical situation.. you were accused of cheating on an exam, but you didn't cheat. The professor calls you a liar. Instead of going and crying to someone about it, it may look better to prove that you're not a liar.

 
Originally posted by: Thera
It's amazing the power children have over teachers these days. No wonder the system doesn't work.
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Originally posted by: Argo
I hope to god they can't. Because if they can I'll lose all faith in our society.
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Agreed with both.
 
Being a member of "Generation X" as we're often referred to, I would say that the teacher has every right and more teachers should say those types of things. Maybe if teachers weren't afraid to discipline students we would stop walking all over them
 
Originally posted by: KEV1N
How about a hypothetical situation.. you were accused of cheating on an exam, but you didn't cheat. The professor calls you a liar. Instead of going and crying to someone about it, it may look better to prove that you're not a liar.
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Well I can't answer your situation yet, but I think I'll run into it shortly. I'm teaching my first class where I have full control this semester. As a recent student, I know for a fact that a good percentage of students who try to get more points on their test actually are changing their answers. I told them at the beginning of the class that some student's work will be copied as required for retaining certification of the department. I think I'm going to just copy all of the tests. Then we'll see what happens when the students change their answer and come to me (I will go to the department chair and ask for advice before acting).

 
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: KEV1N
How about a hypothetical situation.. you were accused of cheating on an exam, but you didn't cheat. The professor calls you a liar. Instead of going and crying to someone about it, it may look better to prove that you're not a liar.
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Well I can't answer your situation yet, but I think I'll run into it shortly. I'm teaching my first class where I have full control this semester. As a recent student, I know for a fact that a good percentage of students who try to get more points on their test actually are changing their answers. I told them at the beginning of the class that some student's work will be copied as required for retaining certification of the department. I think I'm going to just copy all of the tests. Then we'll see what happens when the students change their answer and come to me (I will go to the department chair and ask for advice before acting).
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That's why you have them write in black or blue ink, and grade in red ink. Make sure you mark the correct one in a way that they don't normally mark their answers.

That way, if they try this, there will be obvious scribble-outs in ink and your red ink clearly marking the answer. I mean, would they expect you to believe that you made a mark on the answer and totally didn't see that they had circled the same one or something?

Copying them wouldn't be a bad idea, but it would probably be a waste of paper. If someone comes to you and tells you that you graded something wrong, tell them you double-checked the test and scrutinize it to see if there are any apparent marks. Or, better yet, you could review the tests with them one by one so if there was a mistake, you would both see it at the same time. The student couldn't even TOUCH the test.
 
Originally posted by: Injury
That's why you have them write in black or blue ink, and grade in red ink. Make sure you mark the correct one in a way that they don't normally mark their answers.

That way, if they try this, there will be obvious scribble-outs in ink and your red ink clearly marking the answer. I mean, would they expect you to believe that you made a mark on the answer and totally didn't see that they had circled the same one or something?

Copying them wouldn't be a bad idea, but it would probably be a waste of paper. If someone comes to you and tells you that you graded something wrong, tell them you double-checked the test and scrutinize it to see if there are any apparent marks. Or, better yet, you could review the tests with them one by one so if there was a mistake, you would both see it at the same time. The student couldn't even TOUCH the test.
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I think ink for a computations class is a bit harsh. Too many chances for a slight error and having to scratch everything out. So I won't be cruel and force them to use ink. I of course will use red ink as always when grading.

I guess I should have said I'll scan them in. Won't take too long or be a paper waste to scan in 20 pages.
 
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Injury
That's why you have them write in black or blue ink, and grade in red ink. Make sure you mark the correct one in a way that they don't normally mark their answers.

That way, if they try this, there will be obvious scribble-outs in ink and your red ink clearly marking the answer. I mean, would they expect you to believe that you made a mark on the answer and totally didn't see that they had circled the same one or something?

Copying them wouldn't be a bad idea, but it would probably be a waste of paper. If someone comes to you and tells you that you graded something wrong, tell them you double-checked the test and scrutinize it to see if there are any apparent marks. Or, better yet, you could review the tests with them one by one so if there was a mistake, you would both see it at the same time. The student couldn't even TOUCH the test.
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I think ink for a computations class is a bit harsh. Too many chances for a slight error and having to scratch everything out. So I won't be cruel and force them to use ink. I of course will use red ink as always when grading.

I guess I should have said I'll scan them in. Won't take too long or be a paper waste to scan in 20 pages.
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Then what if you required them to have a highlighter and to highlight the answer when finished? Or highlight the answer they give with a different color highlighter every week when you get the tests. It would still be quite obvious that someone scribbled over highlighter.
 
Originally posted by: Injury
Then what if you required them to have a highlighter and to highlight the answer when finished? Or highlight the answer they give with a different color highlighter every week when you get the tests. It would still be quite obvious that someone scribbled over highlighter.
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That could solve some problems. But there is a more difficult cheat to catch. For example, if someone left off a square or a negative sign, he/she can easilly draw it right in over the highlight or over my circling, and use of ink doesn't stop it. Then they come in and say the grader just missed the square or the negative sign, etc.

The way around it that I can think of is (a) scan in each test or (b) write a very detailed description of every mistake and why it was wrong before giving the tests back. Obviously option (b) is nice to students, but not really practical in all situations (time issues).
 
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