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spidey07

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Bring a knife for wood work, I got a ka-bar bowie and love it.

Trying to start a fire with soaking wet wood can be very difficult. Being able to chop away and get dry is a must.

Car camping - get a nice over fire grill.
 

stargazr

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For backpacking:

For extended trips do not wear a brand new pair of boots without breaking them in first. You don't want any unpleasant surprises with new equipment.

Go through your pack before leaving and make sure every single item is absolutely necessary, because you will be carrying it. Why carry 50-60 lbs?

Be careful about who you go camping with. It's not for everybody, and a bad companion can be worse than a rain storm.
 

spidey07

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For backpacking:

For extended trips do not wear a brand new pair of boots without breaking them in first. You don't want any unpleasant surprises with new equipment.

Go through your pack before leaving and make sure every single item is absolutely necessary, because you will be carrying it. Why carry 50-60 lbs?

Be careful about who you go camping with. It's not for everybody, and a bad companion can be worse than a rain storm.

2nd tip for backpacking - always carry a capable firearm. Not trying to divert, just saying.
 

DrPizza

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As far as the weight goes, I'm of the opinion that sometimes, luxuries are well worth the extra couple of pounds. And, if it's only for a night or two, and less than 15-20 miles a day, I really don't care how heavy my pack is. I'll tell you what, when you wake up in the morning, and it's 40 degrees outside, and your watching the guys you backpacked with having instant oatmeal for breakfast, while you're frying up half a pound of bacon, eggs, and making pancakes... It's worth every bit of extra effort carrying that extra pound and a half the day before. Or, while they're sitting around the campfire, one eating MREs, and the other saying how he was spoiling himself and having spam with crackers, you walk over to the stream near your campsite where you secretly started soaking corn on the cob before you put up your tent; and you pull the fillet mignon out of your backpack - it's like an awesome prize for working just a tiny bit harder that afternoon.
 

stargazr

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As far as the weight goes, I'm of the opinion that sometimes, luxuries are well worth the extra couple of pounds. And, if it's only for a night or two, and less than 15-20 miles a day, I really don't care how heavy my pack is. I'll tell you what, when you wake up in the morning, and it's 40 degrees outside, and your watching the guys you backpacked with having instant oatmeal for breakfast, while you're frying up half a pound of bacon, eggs, and making pancakes... It's worth every bit of extra effort carrying that extra pound and a half the day before. Or, while they're sitting around the campfire, one eating MREs, and the other saying how he was spoiling himself and having spam with crackers, you walk over to the stream near your campsite where you secretly started soaking corn on the cob before you put up your tent; and you pull the fillet mignon out of your backpack - it's like an awesome prize for working just a tiny bit harder that afternoon.

Yeah, I don't go crazy with weight. I like to sleep in a tent, for example and some people like to go light and are comfortable with a hammock w/ a tarp. You have to balance it out with what you are willing to carry. A lot of it depends on the terrain and duration of the hike.

I like to bring perishables like eggs, sausages and real butter for the first day.

It's just that a lot of people seem to bring too much stuff. Lugging it around for four or five days gets old. I knew a guy who would bring his cast iron skillet backpacking!
 

Redfraggle

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I've done the NOLS style of cooking. As long as you calculate properly and meal plan, I think it's great. If, however, you don't, it sucks. (or if somebody else overcalculates, and you are forced to carry a stupid amount of weight)

Also, learn how to start and maintain a real fire. Don't rely on just a stove to feed you. You never know when it will break, be stolen, or if you just don't want to use it.

You can cook a lot of amazing things in a fire (not just on). Like Dr Pizza said, it's well worth it. I mean, you don't have to go nuts, but a few treats can really make a long day of slogging through muddy, nasty trails end a lot better.
 

BoomerD

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Don't forget...when the rest of your group isn't looking, hide a few beers in their backpacks. Let THEM carry the weight...then you sneak them out when you get to your campsite and chill them in a stream or snowbank...bring them out at dinner.
 

illusion88

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2nd tip for backpacking - always carry a capable firearm. Not trying to divert, just saying.

Why? I've been backpacking for over 15 years and I've never needed to shoot anything. If you intend on eating what you kill, and aren't bringing in food that is a different matter. Are you honestly scared of a crazy guy killing you in the forest? You aren't hiking far enough...
 

spidey07

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Why? I've been backpacking for over 15 years and I've never needed to shoot anything. If you intend on eating what you kill, and aren't bringing in food that is a different matter. Are you honestly scared of a crazy guy killing you in the forest? You aren't hiking far enough...

Humans aren't why you take one. Sounds like you haven't been hiking far enough.
 
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BoomerD

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Humans aren't THE ONLY REASON why you take one.

FTFY.

I suppose it depends on where you camp. Much of my life, I lived in areas where it wasn't uncommon to run into a bear while out camping. Proper food storage kept them out of your foodstuffs, and the black bears rarely bother people except for food...but you don't really want to have to face one down with just a camping shovel in hand. (of course, you don't want to shoot one unless it's absolutely necessary either.)
Skunks on the other hand...those mischievous little fuckers...they'll ruin a camping trip quick as hell...:p
 

illusion88

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Humans aren't why you take one. Sounds like you haven't been hiking far enough.

Sounds like you don't know what a bear bag is. I spent 10 years backpacking the sierras. Black bears are common. It's not hard to safe around wildlife. Here's a hint: Down stream, down wind and down hill.....

Heh, when I was in the Yukon I didn't even bother to tie my food to a tree, I just wrapped it in a tarp and put it under some rocks. No problem there. Of course, I don't think the wildlife had realized human food was editable. Not too many people backpacking in those parts.

Funny story, the worst wildlife experience I had was in the Seirras near a popular lake and some deers got into my bear bag. One of the deer stood still while a second deer put it's front hoofs on the back of the first deer and used the extra leverage to nibble at the bottom of my bag. Fucking deer even put a hole in the bag and got to some of the food. Had to stay up most of the night shinning my headlamp around to keep the fuckers at bay.
 

dank69

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FTFY.

I suppose it depends on where you camp. Much of my life, I lived in areas where it wasn't uncommon to run into a bear while out camping. Proper food storage kept them out of your foodstuffs, and the black bears rarely bother people except for food...but you don't really want to have to face one down with just a camping shovel in hand. (of course, you don't want to shoot one unless it's absolutely necessary either.)
Skunks on the other hand...those mischievous little fuckers...they'll ruin a camping trip quick as hell...:p
lol wtf is a handgun gonna do to a bear? Make him angry most likely.
 

Redfraggle

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lol wtf is a handgun gonna do to a bear? Make him angry most likely.

It assures you a quicker death instead of just a maiming? :\

Really, a handgun isn't going to do shit to a bear. I'm all for gun rights, but lol if you think you're going to protect yourself from a bear with a handgun.

If you are really that nuts (because the bear wants your food, not you so much), hang two bags and divide your food.
 

zinfamous

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lol. handgun against a bear?

besides, if you can't fight off a bear with a shovel, then you aren't a man.

hell, most will jump and haul ass at the sound of a bell.

Boomer, did you read about the poor bastard in Yosemite this year that brought a can of bear spray, assumed it was to be applied like mosquito spray, and hilarity ensued?
 

Slew Foot

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F camping.

I didnt spend a pile of money on a nice house and furniture so I can sleep on a cold hard pile of dirt.
 

KillerCharlie

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There are two vital pieces of equipment for a backpacker. A dish towel and cloth bags for cooking pots.

What? Those are completely useless and just take up weight. I've backpacked a ton and never took either of those. Weight is the enemy.
 

KillerCharlie

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Don't forget...when the rest of your group isn't looking, hide a few beers in their backpacks. Let THEM carry the weight...then you sneak them out when you get to your campsite and chill them in a stream or snowbank...bring them out at dinner.

hahah, we've done that before
 

BoomerD

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lol wtf is a handgun gonna do to a bear? Make him angry most likely.

It assures you a quicker death instead of just a maiming? :\

Really, a handgun isn't going to do shit to a bear. I'm all for gun rights, but lol if you think you're going to protect yourself from a bear with a handgun.

If you are really that nuts (because the bear wants your food, not you so much), hang two bags and divide your food.

lol. handgun against a bear?

besides, if you can't fight off a bear with a shovel, then you aren't a man.

hell, most will jump and haul ass at the sound of a bell.

Boomer, did you read about the poor bastard in Yosemite this year that brought a can of bear spray, assumed it was to be applied like mosquito spray, and hilarity ensued?

:confused: Handgun not good for bears? Are you people out of your fucking minds?

Like everything else, it's a matter of the right tool for the job.

http://www.foggymountain.com/handgun-bear-hunting.shtml

http://www.biggamehunt.net/articles/handgun-hunting-alaskan-brown-bear

Of course, things don't always go quite as planned...

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I nodded my head to him and a second later, the blast of his .500 Smith & Wesson echoed against the distant hillsides. The bear never flinched when the bullet hit him and it continued to get up. Immediately I fired my .500, the bullet striking the great bear center mass and again, it never flinched. We were about 20 yards from it and in a spot where we could be readily seen by the beast. In a blur, we continued firing when our backup with his 45/70 fired twice into the bear on the 7th or 8th shots. When the first 45/70 bullet hit it the bear went down and it got back up, the second hit didn’t seem to faze it. Glen and I advanced and kept firing at the bear. We stopped 15 yards from the wounded brownie and then I heard one of the most terrible sounds I have ever heard in my life come from Glen’s gun. Click. He had run out of ammunition. Immediately I leveled off at the animal and squeezed the trigger, the Smith & Wesson exhaled it’s firebreath . The bear went down and stayed.

Collecting our wits, we stayed back from the beast just in case it came back alive. It’s a very good idea not to go charging in after a kill, especially with bears. I like to give a minimum of half an hour after the bear goes down before going up to it. Simply said, it’s too dangerous. Glen Sr. said the moment we started firing he shouldered his scoped .338 just in case the bear attacked us. In the end, the bear had been shot 12 times. Two bullets found their mark from the 47/70 rifle and there were 10 slugs from the pair of Smith & Wesson .500’s, all shot at close range. As we spoke, Glen Sr., a registered Master Alaskan guide said he had seen bears die with one shot and others like this big boy that took a barrage of shots before going down. Funny thing.

I turned and told the men that I would try a stalk on the smaller bear on the edge of the river since I might not get another chance to bag one. Glen and his father started the task of skinning his bear out and I told them of my intentions.

The bear was only 150 yards away and sniffing the hundreds of dead salmon that lay on the shore. While I made my way towards it I lost sight of the other bear that was across the river. My heart was beating unbelievably and intent on getting close enough I would move only when the bear’s head was down. Fortunately the wind had not changed and I was still downwind from the boar. My backups were perched on a small hill 30 yards behind me as I made my approach.

Suddenly, the bear stood up on it’s hind legs and provided me with a full chest shot. Drawing my .500, I shot in a split second knowing a second opportunity might not ever occur. When the 470-grain bullet hit the bear with a dull thud, the bear slammed backward into the frigid water. I cursed as the water was fast and probably would carry the body of the bear downriver, perhaps lost forever. I blinked and suddenly the bear jumped back up on the shore and started racing upriver. I shot two more times in rapid-fire succession. The bear jumped into the water and started swimming to an island 30 yards away. I yelled to my backups not to shoot until it was in shallow water. Seconds later, the bear lay dead. The Smith & Wesson had done it’s job well. I had bet my life on it.

Of course, those Alaskan brown bears are not the same thing as the run-of-the-mill North American black bear that most of us might encounter in the wild...not by a long shot.

http://www.mlive.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2009/02/bear_shot_by_local_handgun_hun.html

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It took two shots from his Smith and Wesson 629, a .44 caliber handgun, to take the bear down.

Mind you, I definitely don't recommend hunting bear with a handgun, but then again, I don't care much for bear hunting at all. The meat's not that damned good...but the fat does render into decent boot grease. :p HOWEVER, in a pinch, even your average concealed carry piece can be somewhat effective...either the noise scares the bear away...or you can kill yourself while the bear gnaw's your leg off...
 

Zebo

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F camping.

I didnt spend a pile of money on a nice house and furniture so I can sleep on a cold hard pile of dirt.

You aint livin till you roughed it. I have a class A motorhome (big one with cat diesel/AC/50" LCD etc) and still prefer sleeping outside with critters while the weak sleep inside.

Just a little tip - don't put deer carcasses to close to you. I did that and found about 20 coyotes licking me at about 3 am thinking they had a nightcap, me. But they were as scared as me when I jumped up in shock and they ran off.:p
 
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foghorn67

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Yosemite. Camp sites are very, very regulated. Long waiting lists with lots of rules. The two biggest rules are lights out. Lights out prison style. Campfires are extinguished, lanterns turned off, etc. No noise, everyone back in there tents. No food storage in tents or cars. Tents are a must, no sleeping in cars.
Why? The damn bears. Food goes in this storage locker. Cast iron made of 1/2 inch plates. Huge pin to lock them. Bear proof. Cars are not bear proof. We have the little black bears there. No grizzlies, no large brown bears, no Kodiak's, or Polar bears. None of that.
But a bear is still a bear. It will harm you even inadvertently.
Flyers were passed out by Rangers with photos of a car's door frame bent down so a bear can get into the food. Another picture shows two bears sitting in the front seats mowing down on food. Do not get in between a bear and food. Do not sleep in the car, because bears think food is in there. Because some idiots still manage to ignore the rules.
So my girlfriend an I were fast asleep in the tent, where she nudged me awake whispering what the fuck was behind her making all that noise. I looked up, and saw a silhouette of a bear on the tent wall. I can see it's breath as it huffed and puffed and sniffed around. My gf's eyes were as big as dinner plates. I just said it was me snoring and faked going back to sleep. I kept murmuring for her to go back to sleep. A few minutes later I hear a bunch of pots and pans being banged around followed by men yelling for the bear to leave. I heard it stammer back past my tent to go back into the woods. The next morning, I woke up to see a car with it's door frames bent down. Some derned fool idget left an open bag of Doritos in his car.

Lesson: Bears like Doritos too.
 

dank69

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:confused: Handgun not good for bears? Are you people out of your fucking minds?

Like everything else, it's a matter of the right tool for the job.

http://www.foggymountain.com/handgun-bear-hunting.shtml

http://www.biggamehunt.net/articles/handgun-hunting-alaskan-brown-bear

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Ok Dirty Harry. You pack that giant handgun and associated giant ammo in your backpack just in case you run into a bear that is just looking for food. Let me know if you ever actually run into a bear and how that gun works out for you. And you say we are out of our fucking minds, haha. Like you said in your final paragraph, any handgun you bring on a backpacking trip is useless weight.
 

Lalakai

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bring fine grit steel wool; even wet you can shake the water from it and use as tinder.

very sturdy walking stick. Mine is over 6' tall. Countless uses.

a good heavy bladed knife.

rope, twine, fishing line

go-to kit: needle and thread, leather shoe laces, safety pins, tweezers, bandages, antibiotic ointment, large triangular cloth bandage, medical and electrical tape, signal mirror, whistle, emergency chocolate (serious..only use in emergency; save it for when you are very mentally "down"), iodine tablets for water purification

heavy military grade poncho (doubles as ground cloth, shelter half, wind break).

keep your feet warm and dry. it's a toss up as to what is worse: getting dehydrated or trying to walk on sore feet.

they are expensive, but a nice compact water purification pump.

Make a dry run in your back yard, set up camp and see how you do and what you are missing. Then try an over-night in the woods.

and above all else............have fun.