Cambridge Analytica whistleblower, the Trump campaign and another Russia connection

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HomerJS

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How many white countries are there in the world, for white nationalists to form ties with?



There may be an order of magnitude difference between a small island nation and a former world super power. I doubt many people are interested in Jamaica, and that goes both ways. Few reasons to meet, and even fewer reasons to carefully inspect those meetings.

I've written out a few different replies to the greater issue / question you pose, but they all lead to ignoring Cambridge Analytica and going off topic. The other aspects of Trump / Russia are almost immaterial to the question of whether this topic has any merit unto itself. I'd rather stay focused on whether Cambridge Analytica can be proven to have assisted or provided Russia with material support in their effort to attack the United States. Because that would be an actual smoking gun.

Unfortunately for the conspiracy theorists, I'm not seeing news articles allege anything more than a solicitation. So it's up to investigators to figure out if there's anything more to this story. Though I'm sure that won't stop partisans from screaming Russia and waiving impeach signs before the evidence exists. Which makes it all the more difficult to get Republicans on board should the day come where Mueller makes the case.
Forgot to waive my arms. I know there is evidence of collusion. Trump committed it when he asked the Russians to hack the Democrats in public.
 

Jhhnn

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Blabbermouth!

The difference between CA & the vast right wing noise machine is that the GOP has always kept it in-house- they're the only clients for the outfits they fund. Tick off all the right wing think tanks you've ever heard of to understand. They even have their own highly successful cable network in Fox.

It's the difference between whores & mistresses. They're all messing with our minds for money & they're damned good at it, obviously.
 

UNCjigga

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Blabbermouth!

The difference between CA & the vast right wing noise machine is that the GOP has always kept it in-house- they're the only clients for the outfits they fund. Tick off all the right wing think tanks you've ever heard of to understand. They even have their own highly successful cable network in Fox.

It's the difference between whores & mistresses. They're all messing with our minds for money & they're damned good at it, obviously.

Yeah, how much money did the Mercers pump into CA again?

Robert Mercer, a graduate of Sandia High School and the University of New Mexico turned New York hedge fund titan, reportedly plowed $15 million into Cambridge Analytica, which helped both the Trump campaign in the U.S. and the Brexit movement in the United Kingdom.
https://www.abqjournal.com/1147718/abq-native-robert-mercer-bankrolled-cambridge-analytica.html

This guy probably watched House of Cards and got a hard-on whenever Raymond Tusk was on-screen.
 

Phokus

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Part 3 of the series is up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1025&v=cy-9iciNF1A

Of note:

1) They basically promise not to tell US law enforcement/regulators/lawmakers about any of their clients

2) When the CEO went to speak to congress, the GOP was barely interested in asking him any questions while democrats grilled him for 2 hours

3) They use an encrypted email service called "Proton Mail" that destroys emails 2 hours after they are sent so they don't leave a paper trail. Probably lots of incriminating shit was lost due to this service.
 

Jaskalas

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Forgot to waive my arms. I know there is evidence of collusion. Trump committed it when he asked the Russians to hack the Democrats in public.

July 27, 2016: "I will tell you this, Russia: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,"

That was in direct reply to the public conversation of Russia having ALREADY hacked the DNC, etc. That maybe they'd already have the files and would share them with the United States. Your portrayal of that moment is false.
 

Jhhnn

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July 27, 2016: "I will tell you this, Russia: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,"

That was in direct reply to the public conversation of Russia having ALREADY hacked the DNC, etc. That maybe they'd already have the files and would share them with the United States. Your portrayal of that moment is false.

He invited the Russians to commit a crime. How else would they "find" the emails?

And the crowd roared in approval, of course, just like CA predicted that they would. They & the Russian mind benders had conservative America all dialed in, played beautifully on their hopes & fears, led them right into Trump's tailored pitch.

Played for chumps in ways they can't even fathom.
 
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Ackmed

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Why am I not surprised that this was also not posted, as it is very related.

On Twitter, Carol Davidsen, the former director of integration and media analytics at Obama for America, explained how the 2012 campaign harnessed Facebook’s Application Programming Interface (API) to access the company’s "social graph” that maps users’ connections. This enabled the campaign to access information on users’ friends when they used the Facebook log-in button to access the campaign’s website, according to the Washington Post.

Facebook was surprised we were able to suck out the whole social graph, but they didn’t stop us once they realized that was what we were doing,” Davidsen tweeted.

They came to office in the days following election recruiting & were very candid that they allowed us to do things they wouldn’t have allowed someone else to do because they were on our side,” she added, in a subsequent tweet.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2018/03...-data-from-facebook-former-official-says.html

Time and time again we see the social media giants taking sides. Once again, Dems being hypocrites. What is good for them, is not good for the other party. Just like the Dems try to claim they that the Repubs are the racist ones, yet allow a several decade long anti-Semite to be a party to them, calling Hitler a great man. Do as I say, not as I do, seems to be their manta. *Hint* neither of these examples is good or ok. Except if you're a bias, agenda driven, ignorant person. Seems to be a few here.
 
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HomerJS

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July 27, 2016: "I will tell you this, Russia: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,"

That was in direct reply to the public conversation of Russia having ALREADY hacked the DNC, etc. That maybe they'd already have the files and would share them with the United States. Your portrayal of that moment is false.
You mean trafficking stolen goods?? Hate to inform you but that is highly illegal as well.
 

UNCjigga

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Why am I not surprised that this was also not posted, as it is very related.



http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2018/03...-data-from-facebook-former-official-says.html

Time and time again we see the social media giants taking sides. Once again, Dems being hypocrites. What is good for them, is not good for the other party. Just like the Dems try to claim they that the Repubs are the racist ones, yet allow a several decade long anti-Semite to be a party to them, calling Hitler a great man. Do as I say, not as I do, seems to be their manta. *Hint* neither of these examples is good or ok. Except if you're a bias, agenda driven, ignorant person. Seems to be a few here.
Not sure what your point is. There is extensive coverage in the media (even left-leaning media) about the Obama '12 campaign's use of Facebook data vs. how Cambridge Analytica obtained the data from a 3rd-party without Facebook's permission.

I think most here would agree that this isn't a Democrat vs. Republican problem--at its core this is a Facebook problem and there's a reason why they changed how their Social Graph API works (they never should've allowed companies to mine an opt-in user's friends' data without permission from said friends.)
 

Jhhnn

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Why am I not surprised that this was also not posted, as it is very related.



http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2018/03...-data-from-facebook-former-official-says.html

Time and time again we see the social media giants taking sides. Once again, Dems being hypocrites. What is good for them, is not good for the other party. Just like the Dems try to claim they that the Repubs are the racist ones, yet allow a several decade long anti-Semite to be a party to them, calling Hitler a great man. Do as I say, not as I do, seems to be their manta. *Hint* neither of these examples is good or ok. Except if you're a bias, agenda driven, ignorant person. Seems to be a few here.

Always the victim, huh? Davidsen obtained the info in 2012 under Facebook's rules in place at the time. Despite her embellishment of the story, it seems likely that anybody else could have done the same & probably did.

That's not true wrt CA-

Cambridge Analytica — unlike other firms that access Facebook’s user data — broke Facebook’s rules by obtaining the data under the pretense of academic use.

Cambridge Analytica obtained the data through a psychological testing app, called Thisisyourdigitallife, that offered personality predictions and billed itself on Facebook as “a research app used by psychologists.” Facebook said 270,000 people downloaded the app. That allowed the collection of data on 50 million “friends,” the New York Times and the Observer of London have reported

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...fdd8bf1308b_story.html?utm_term=.d7af3c2173d5
 

HomerJS

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Always the victim, huh? Davidsen obtained the info in 2012 under Facebook's rules in place at the time. Despite her embellishment of the story, it seems likely that anybody else could have done the same & probably did.

That's not true wrt CA-





https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...fdd8bf1308b_story.html?utm_term=.d7af3c2173d5

If what CA was doing was so above board why hide behind a "let me guess your personality app offered up by only 240K people? What Obama campaign did was well known while they were doing it and everyone knew it was political.
 

ivwshane

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You guys are missing the point. Who cares about campaigns using big data to win elections, that's just smart politicking and quite frankly I'm surprised Clinton didn't have access to better data.

The issue is that we have a super Pac(s) directly coordinating with the trump campaign and that's illegal.

Unsurprisingly, those that were outraged and complained of Hillary corruption and a rigged system are completely silent on the implications of this latest info.