Cambodian have to overcome another milestone.

[iGas]

As much as 30% of the population was exterminated by Pol Pot & the Khmer Rouge not long ago while the International communities watch and the media completely ignored. And, then everyone and their dog got interested in Cambodia because the Australian recently discovered oil in the hills that border with Thailand, as well as the disputed water off the coast.

Now the Cambodian have to hold back the greedy Thai that use the excuse that the 900 year old Preah Vihear Hindu temple belong to their people/culture. And, the Thai is destroying the historic monument while they are at it.

Cambodia-thai border clashes -- video

Five Thais Convicted in Cambodia and Sent Home -- Spies & disrupter.

Fresh Thai-Cambodian clash

The media in both countries have suggested the toll from the earlier fighting could be much higher than the five casualties listed. Thai newspapers suggest 64 Cambodian soldiers were killed. Across the border, it was reported that at least 30 Thai troops had died.

Thai-Cambodia clashes continue

The temple, which is surrounded by disputed territory, was damaged on Sunday by Thai artillery fire, according to Cambodia, which said one wing of the building had "collapsed" as a result.

 

[Zebo]

Thai not greedy, ChineseThai is a different story.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Cambodia has always had to deal with Thailand , Vietnam and China looking at the land/resources. Of the three, Thailand is the calmest

 

[iGas]

Cambodia has always had to deal with Thailand , Vietnam and China looking at the land/resources. Of the three, Thailand is the calmest

Since partial annexation of Cambodia by Vietnam more than 700 years ago the 2 countries have had good relationship.

Short history lesson:
The annexation of Cambodia is due to the fact the Khmer & Laotian supported China attempt at the complete annexation of Vietnam. Vietnam resorted to scorched earth method to avoid the complete annexation. Fact is that a good portion of Southern China was the former Vietnamese territory (there are as much as 20% of the population in the Chinese control area still speaks Vietnamese).

Vietnam invaded Cambodia in the late 70s to early 80s is to take out Pol Pot and stop the Khmer Rouge from its ethnic cleansing of the population (as many as 2 millions out of the 5~6 millions population were deems not to be Cambodian, and that included Thais were executed in the horrific 5 years range). Where were the Thais when Pol Pot were around?

I don't understand how & where you get the part that China is a threat to Cambodia as its border is buffered by Thailand, Laos and Vietnam.

Thais are some of the kinder and gentler people in the world, however they have had many skirmish with Cambodia in the last couple of hundred years.

 

[Thump553]

The world heard and knew a lot about Pol Pot and basically did everything we could. It's delusional to have expected the US to militarily intervene to overthrow the government a few years after and right next door to Vietnam.

OTOH this thread is the first I've heard about an oil discovery in Cambodia.

 

[iGas]

The world heard and knew a lot about Pol Pot and basically did everything we could. It's delusional to have expected the US to militarily intervene to overthrow the government a few years after and right next door to Vietnam.

OTOH this thread is the first I've heard about an oil discovery in Cambodia.

Funnay that the "world"/American/Brits were the ones that supported Pol Pot to disrupts Vietnam after the 1975 reunification, and completely ignored Pol Pot atrocities at the mean time. And, it was the Thais base that American/Brits operatives were based out off.

The reason that Cambodia had very little international attention, because the media were banned by the American/Brits/Australian/Etc... from communication with Cambodia. They fear Pol Pot would spilled the beans and point fingers at the people that supported him if he was taken to trial or allows communication with the outside world.

 

[Jaskalas]

Funnay that the "world"/American/Brits were the ones that supported Pol Pot to disrupts Vietnam after the 1975 reunification, and completely ignored Pol Pot atrocities at the mean time. And, it was the Thais base that American/Brits operatives are based off.

The reason that Cambodia had very little international attention, because the media were banned by the American/Brits/Australian/Etc... from communication with Cambodia. Because, they feared that their Pol Pot birdy would spilled the beans if he was taken to trial or allows communication with the outside world.

Damn hands in the cookie jar....

 

[piasabird]

It does not matter who gets to drill and develop the oil, because overall it will just mean that the world supply will increase. This will help us one way or another. In fact if Japan starts buying the oil then they will not be buying the Alaska Crude Oil.

 

[Narmer]

What is the OP whining about? If the Cambodians can defend their territory, good. If they can't, too bad. No one has a "right" to anything. And all this bitching about shit that went down 700 years ago just proves that I'm right.

 

[iGas]

What is the OP whining about? If the Cambodians can defend their territory, good. If they can't, too bad. No one has a "right" to anything. And all this bitching about shit that went down 700 years ago just proves that I'm right.

The history remark is that it was the only event that created friction between Viet/Cambodian relationship and it was influent by the Chinese.

Sorry, that you don't like history or politic that disagree with your teaching.

PS. Don't go and complaints regarding the Japanese history that disregard the WWII atrocities in their history book that they inflicted on Chinese, Rape of Nanking, or the Guizi/Gweilo that lead to the Brits/China Opium war that are now remember as Tuen Ng Festival & Lantern Festival. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

 

[werepossum]

Since partial annexation of Cambodia by Vietnam more than 700 years ago the 2 countries have had good relationship.

Short history lesson:
The annexation of Cambodia is due to the fact the Khmer & Laotian supported China attempt at the complete annexation of Vietnam. Vietnam resorted to scorched earth method to avoid the complete annexation. Fact is that a good portion of Southern China was the former Vietnamese territory (there are as much as 20% of the population in the Chinese control area still speaks Vietnamese).

Vietnam invaded Cambodia in the late 70s to early 80s is to take out Pol Pot and stop the Khmer Rouge from its ethnic cleansing of the population (as many as 2 millions out of the 5~6 millions population were deems not to be Cambodian, and that included Thais were executed in the horrific 5 years range). Where were the Thais when Pol Pot were around?

I don't understand how & where you get the part that China is a threat to Cambodia as its border is buffered by Thailand, Laos and Vietnam.

Thais are some of the kinder and gentler people in the world, however they have had many skirmish with Cambodia in the last couple of hundred years.

Pretty sure Vietnam invaded Cambodia to keep the Khmer Rouge out of Vietnam. That war is known by the Vietnamese as Vietnam's Vietnam.

 

[iGas]

Pretty sure Vietnam invaded Cambodia to keep the Khmer Rouge out of Vietnam. That war is known by the Vietnamese as Vietnam's Vietnam.

Perhaps that is one of the reason, and there the images, news, as well as hundred of thousands Cambodian streamed across the border motivate the Vietnamese into action (Some Cambodian crossed over to the Thai border and many was turn back and murdered by the Khmer Rouge). At that time Vietnam fear that the US or the Chinese backed by the US would invade Vietnam if Vietnam went to war with Cambodia. However, there were more completing reasons to stop Pol Pot than ignoring it, even those Vietnam infrastructure was completely destroyed by the retreating American and greatly weaken due to the embargo and Chinese invasion threat in the North.

5% of the Cambodian population were Vietnamese descendant, and Vietnam didn't want the Khmer Rouge/China Fascist to influent Vietnam politic, or American/Thai/Laos/guerrilla insurgents hence the invasion of Cambodia to stop Pol Pot was the only solution.

 

[bfdd]

Perhaps that is one of the reason, and there the images, news, as well as hundred of thousands Cambodian streamed across the border motivate the Vietnamese into action (Some Cambodian crossed over to the Thai border and many was turn back and murdered by the Khmer Rouge). At that time Vietnam fear that the US or the Chinese backed by the US would invade Vietnam if Vietnam went to war with Cambodia. However, there were more completing reasons to stop Pol Pot than ignoring it, even those Vietnam infrastructure was completely destroyed by the retreating American and greatly weaken due to the embargo and Chinese invasion threat in the North.

5% of the Cambodian population were Vietnamese descendant, and Vietnam didn't want the Khmer Rouge/China Fascist to influent Vietnam politic, or American/Thai/Laos/guerrilla insurgents hence the invasion of Cambodia to stop Pol Pot was the only solution.

People back then believed that the Chinese backed by the USA would invade Vietnam? Are you fucking kidding?

Also, haven't you talked mad shit on the USA for invading other countries in another thread? How do you justify that so easily, but shit on another nation for doing similar? That hardly makes sense.

 

[Svnla]

Since partial annexation of Cambodia by Vietnam more than 700 years ago the 2 countries have had good relationship.

Short history lesson:
The annexation of Cambodia is due to the fact the Khmer & Laotian supported China attempt at the complete annexation of Vietnam. Vietnam resorted to scorched earth method to avoid the complete annexation. Fact is that a good portion of Southern China was the former Vietnamese territory (there are as much as 20% of the population in the Chinese control area still speaks Vietnamese).

Vietnam invaded Cambodia in the late 70s to early 80s is to take out Pol Pot and stop the Khmer Rouge from its ethnic cleansing of the population (as many as 2 millions out of the 5~6 millions population were deems not to be Cambodian, and that included Thais were executed in the horrific 5 years range). Where were the Thais when Pol Pot were around?

I don't understand how & where you get the part that China is a threat to Cambodia as its border is buffered by Thailand, Laos and Vietnam.

Thais are some of the kinder and gentler people in the world, however they have had many skirmish with Cambodia in the last couple of hundred years.

I thought the current South Vietnam was the former Champa and not part of Cambodia? Did not know anything about oil nears the temple until you said it.

 

[iGas]

I thought the current South Vietnam was the former Champa and not part of Cambodia? Did not know anything about oil nears the temple until you said it.

From Hue to Bien Hoa were the former Champa nation, and everything south of Bien Hoa were former Cambodia (if I remember correctly).

Sai Gon (Vietnamese)/ Prey Nokor (former Khmer name) also belong to Cambodia at one point.

I can't remember the exact time line (read it a few years back) but I think it was late 90s or early 2000s when the Australian discovered oil in the region, and then the Australian promptly jumped on it to established the Western Foreign Embassy in Cambodia beside Vietnam & Thailand.

 

[iGas]

People back then believed that the Chinese backed by the USA would invade Vietnam? Are you fucking kidding?

Also, haven't you talked mad shit on the USA for invading other countries in another thread? How do you justify that so easily, but shit on another nation for doing similar? That hardly makes sense.

In your own expression, I'm not fucking kidding!

Read your history and find out when the US shake hands with Red China.

"Whoever has the Americans as allies does not need enemies" -- Madame Nhu, former US ally.

The hand sake were in the the 70s just before the US pulled out of Vietnam (Henry Kissinger visited China in 1971, Richard Nixon visited China in 1972), and China started to have skirmishes with Vietnam over bunch of islands that have oils. (Vietnam & China were Allies during WWII vs. Japs, then Vichy France, then American during the Vietnam War, and Vietnam were an US ally during WWII as well, then the US back stab Vietnam). In doing so the Russian came to aid the Vietnamese hence the Chinese mounted over a million troops on China/Russia border during this time. The Russian at the time told China that they would have a fight on their hand if they invade Vietnam.

Vietnam is not a big or strong country but it have manage to survived along side great nations such as China, the former Khmer Empire, Siam, and Mongol due to its tenacious & hardworking people as well as formidable political skills.

Hans Chinese think that Vietnam is its former colony, for many generations Vietnam paid tribune to China Empire so that they would leave Vietnam in peace (tribune was also paid to Khmer Empire and Mongolian Empire).

Sorry for the rant, this tread belong the Khmer struggle.

 

[bfdd]

I know when China and the US first shook hands, it's still ridiculous to think the US would back China then lol.

 

[iGas]

I know when China and the US first shook hands, it's still ridiculous to think the US would back China then lol.

Anything is possible because oil is involved.

 

[bfdd]

Anything is possible because oil is involved.

... No because people were either uninformed or misinformed.