camaro SS vs NSX

[GroundZero]

BOTH OF THESE CARS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES...
YOU ALREADY HAVE ONE, WHY DO YOU NEED 2?

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: GroundZero
BOTH OF THESE CARS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES...
YOU ALREADY HAVE ONE, WHY DO YOU NEED 2?

Hello, my naps is caps lock. Have we met?

 

[BatmanNate]

According to Honda's initial numbers, a stock NSX runs 13.9 (this was 5-speed with the 3.0, not 6 speed with the 3.2 in the later models) whereas a stock LS1 SS runs low 13's for what, a quarter the price? Less?

 

[Pocatello]

NSX turns head? You got to be kidding me! Well, maybe some snickers, should had spent your money on something better. If the NSX was such an enamored car, people would actually buy the darn thing. Don't tell me because it's too expensive (performance wise too expensive), else Porsche and Ferrari wouldn't be here.

 

[oldirtythao]

i dunno i think its kinda cool that a car w/ over 10 year old technology can still keep up w/ cars w/ current tech. If this car was bought new when the NSX's first came out.. he should got his money's worth to be still dragging and pulling off great numbers now

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: Pocatello
NSX turns head? You got to be kidding me! Well, maybe some snickers, should had spent your money on something better. If the NSX was such an enamored car, people would actually buy the darn thing. Don't tell me because it's too expensive (performance wise too expensive), else Porsche and Ferrari wouldn't be here.

You're assuming the general public even knows what an NSX is, let alone know how much one costs so I certainly doubt people would snicker at what they would have bought instead. You are also assuming that every NSX you come across was bought new. Go visit the nsx forums and you'll see that most of the owners there got their cars used and at a lower price. I feel sorry for the people who plunked down $90k for a brand new one. But whenever an NSX pulls up to a light... I sure notice people looking at it. Not a jawdrop like what Lamborghinis do... but it certainly gets attention.

 

[Gulzakar]

Nebor-

I'm a moron? haha...I guess it takes one to know one! =P

Camaros have the quality of a Ford transmission, face it...even for their "bargain" price you're not exactly getting a "bargain".

So they handle well? what, was the track about 10 miles long and straight?

and to whomever called me a fool? what, a bunch of lame ass loyalists! there is a reason that the camaro is no longer being produced...

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
So basically, a modded $85+k car beat a stock $30k car, and that's suprising?

And the crappy driver in the stock $30k car ran a full second slower than the car should have been capable of.

What was this thread about again? Oh yeah, OS was being a ricer fanboi again and flamebaiting... :roll:

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
So basically, a modded $85+k car beat a stock $30k car, and that's suprising?

And the crappy driver in the stock $30k car ran a full second slower than the car should have been capable of.

What was this thread about again? Oh yeah, OS was being a ricer fanboi again and flamebaiting... :roll:

Dude would have still lost 2 seconds faster.

1/4 mile times are only as good as your elevation, temp and humidity.

There are some places a 14 is damn good and others where it's laughable (not that a 14sec is slow)

 

[mdbound]

Originally posted by: Gulzakar
Nebor-

I'm a moron? haha...I guess it takes one to know one! =P

Camaros have the quality of a Ford transmission, face it...even for their "bargain" price you're not exactly getting a "bargain".

So they handle well? what, was the track about 10 miles long and straight?

and to whomever called me a fool? what, a bunch of lame ass loyalists! there is a reason that the camaro is no longer being produced...

Not to be jumping on ad hominem attacks against other users, but....

why don't you look at the post by ViperGTS. He even has a track map. Steve Millen thinks its a pretty decent car in the turns (page 8 of the article). Maybe you're a better driver than Millen (who also mods/drives imports fyi).

And I don't know your definition of bargain, but fine if 24K is not a bargain, than WTF is? Besides, my SS has had no major problems to date, with 50K on the odo. No, I don't baby it. I pedal it EVERY DAMN LIGHT because I can.

MD.

 

[Rent]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: Rent

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: ElFenix
no. obviously, if someone here has a fetish over a car, it's outersquare

hmmm don't get yersulf excited ya might mess ya mullet up and spill ya pabst blue ribbon.

Yeah, that was called for. :roll:

I don't really care much, this video is in circulation for Honda fanboys. "Oh look how bad the NSX owned the Camaro, what a piece of american trash..." That said, the NSX had a badass run and the SS probably had a combination of problems to run that time.

The truth is for every 11 second NSX, there are at least 10 10second LS1 based cars. And thats an extremely conservative estimate.

I was going to say that same thing, and I'm a frickin' Honda fanboi.

Wow a video of a modded 11 second car vs a stock 13 second Camaro SS with a crap driver! That proves a lot! :roll:

For sh!ts and giggles, lets run that NSX vs this 7 second GN

I mean, because that's just as fair of a comparison. :roll:

Sorry James but this thread and your reasoning is just retarded.

Noes! T3h interw3b has beaten me again!



alkemyst You have to be one vain motherfvcker to state something like that. Then of course, you live in Florida. :disgust:

Go ahead and offer me the keys to a SS or a 92' NSX. I'll take the SS in a hearbeat and smoke the living crap out of the NSX. Earlier year model NSXs are dog slow (14's 1/4) in stock trim. They handle nice, but they can't do much else.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Rent
Go ahead and offer me the keys to a SS or a 92' NSX. I'll take the SS in a hearbeat and smoke the living crap out of the NSX. Earlier year model NSXs are dog slow (14's 1/4) in stock trim. They handle nice, but they can't do much else.

Like I said, you are happy with a 1/4 mile winner, most look at that as lowbrow....ask an average *woman*, but whatever makes you happy.

a 14sec 1/4 is hardly dog slow...if that were the case what would the 13.5 an SS camaro can pull be considered?

Anything less than 15secs is pretty decent, 14's much better, 13's are about the limits of most street cars...once you dip into 12's and less you are really booking....

a 10 second car that's comfortable on the street is rare (not counting NOS)....

most people dream they want 700hp cars, but if they ever owned one and that had to be their daily driver they'd recant that.

I am shooting for a low 13 sec pass in my 240sx. I will have less than $15k in it at that point ($8,800 purchase price which was a steal for a 70k mile 1998 SE) and it will be a very strong street car with 300ZX brakes, LSD, turbo, coilovers....plus only about 2000 of them out there so I won't be seeing my self 10 times on the way to work each day like the Cobra, SS, Z06 crowd down here.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Regardless you take a new SS and few year old NSX and line them up I seriously doubt anyone but you and a few in this thread would pick the SS if they were offered the keys.

:roll:

are you refering to me with that?

 

[Rent]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Rent
Go ahead and offer me the keys to a SS or a 92' NSX. I'll take the SS in a hearbeat and smoke the living crap out of the NSX. Earlier year model NSXs are dog slow (14's 1/4) in stock trim. They handle nice, but they can't do much else.

Like I said, you are happy with a 1/4 mile winner, most look at that as lowbrow....ask an average *woman*, but whatever makes you happy.

a 14sec 1/4 is hardly dog slow...if that were the case what would the 13.5 an SS camaro can pull be considered?

Anything less than 15secs is pretty decent, 14's much better, 13's are about the limits of most street cars...once you dip into 12's and less you are really booking....

a 10 second car that's comfortable on the street is rare (not counting NOS)....

most people dream they want 700hp cars, but if they ever owned one and that had to be their daily driver they'd recant that.

I am shooting for a low 13 sec pass in my 240sx. I will have less than $15k in it at that point ($8,800 purchase price which was a steal for a 70k mile 1998 SE) and it will be a very strong street car with 300ZX brakes, LSD, turbo, coilovers....plus only about 2000 of them out there so I won't be seeing my self 10 times on the way to work each day like the Cobra, SS, Z06 crowd down here.

We've already established that a SS handles pretty good for what it is. Good enough to compete with some sports cars. So lets drop this stupid game of "its just a 1/4 winner"

And just because YOU percieve a SS as low brow, that doesn't mean EVERYONE else does. Anyone who knows jack about the Camaro line knows the prestige the SS has and won't dispute it. I've seen some incredible Z28s, TAs, SS's, ect... enough to the point where I'm not going to debate if they're lowbrow. They are aimed at the tuner crowd and if you think thats lowbrow, then you should reevaluate how you look at people that tune cars in general. The SS offers amazing performance, there is no denying that.

As for your S14 project car, thats cool :thumbsup: - I worked on my friends 96' 240DET and with limited traction, his car was able to hit 13.7xx @ 102mph. With that trap, he could have gone easily into the mid to low 13s. Just depends on how you build it.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Pocatello
NSX turns head? You got to be kidding me! Well, maybe some snickers, should had spent your money on something better. If the NSX was such an enamored car, people would actually buy the darn thing. Don't tell me because it's too expensive (performance wise too expensive), else Porsche and Ferrari wouldn't be here.

Honda has sold all NSXs produced.

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Originally posted by: Pocatello
NSX turns head?

Hell yeah it does. It'll turn my head everytime, just because it isn't as fast for the money as other cars doesn't make it bad, but their pricing and marketing divisions might.

 

[Nebor]

Nebor-

I'm a moron? haha...I guess it takes one to know one! =P

You said a Corvette sucks. The Corvette is one of the greatest cars ever built to date. And it keeps getting better. I said in my post the NSX is a great car, just not for the money. The SS is a great bargain for the money. You're just a tad too immature to differentiate between "the best car" and " a good car."

But don't worry, you hide it well, Mr. "it takes one to know one."

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Gulzakar
I'm not a huge fan of the NSX...but Camaros are pure garbage.

big whoopie! they have a "big healthy" V8! They handle like $hit (yes, I've driven my friends), they fall apart even when BABIED (total garbage...plastic fantastics...and he BABIES his)...and to top it off, they are just WAY too big to be fun...like driving a large wedge with a bathtub for the seat.

95% percent Corvette
1/3 the price
both suck harder than a Vietnamese hooker

Ah, yes, Corvettes suck. Which is why a Z06 beat the following cars on this track:

Ferrari 550 Maranello
Porsche 911 Turbo
BMW Z8
Acura NSX
Mercedes SL500
Camaro SS
BMW M Roadster
Porsche Boxster S
Honda S2000
Mercedes SLK320

The only car that beat it cost 3x the cost of a Z06 at the time the comparison was done. And I'm going to go way out on a limb here, but if you handed LPE a brand new Z06 and $100,000... when you got it back, it'd be able to smoke the 360 Modena.

IIRC, the special 427TT that LPE put out cost less than $100K (to be modded). 0-60 in just under two seconds with fscking street legal tires, and theyhad some problems with traction. Put some race tires on it... and that corvette makes up the .8 second lead the 360 Modena around that track is gone before the 360 even hits 60mph.

 

[boyRacer]

Uh oh. Here wo go with the modded cars beat Ferraris.

Ferraris arent invincible, nor are they the fastest cars on earth. You're not looking for those things when you buy a Ferrari. :wink;

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: bR
Uh oh. Here wo go with the modded cars beat Ferraris.

Ferraris arent invincible, nor are they the fastest cars on earth. You're not looking for those things when you buy a Ferrari. :wink;

It beat the 550, unmodded.

I agree though, everyone needs to throw out the "this car modded smokes these cars" bullsh!t.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: bR
Uh oh. Here wo go with the modded cars beat Ferraris.

Ferraris arent invincible, nor are they the fastest cars on earth. You're not looking for those things when you buy a Ferrari. :wink;

It beat the 550, unmodded.

I agree though, everyone needs to throw out the "this car modded smokes these cars" bullsh!t.

So a Ferrari 360 is faster than the 550 around this track? How?

 

[Babbles]

Thank you for showing me that a better driver plus a car with mods beats a stock car with a crappy driver.

 

[MikeMike]

hes not talking about just modding, but talking about price difference, if you put 160K for a vette, it will smoke any 160K car out there.

60K in a rice burner will possibly smoke a 60K vette. but i dont know what 60K could get you.

MIKE

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: bR
Uh oh. Here wo go with the modded cars beat Ferraris.

Ferraris arent invincible, nor are they the fastest cars on earth. You're not looking for those things when you buy a Ferrari. :wink;

It beat the 550, unmodded.

I agree though, everyone needs to throw out the "this car modded smokes these cars" bullsh!t.

So a Ferrari 360 is faster than the 550 around this track? How?

Don't ask me, ask Mookow.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Nebor


So a Ferrari 360 is faster than the 550 around this track? How?

power to weight:
550: 283.96 bhp per tonne
360: 284.17 bhp per tonne

so, slightly better power to weight, combined with the better balance of a mid motor car. the modena also out-accelerates the 550. the 575 is better than both, i'd imagine.