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Do you guys remember the late Colt revolving rifle of the late 1800s that had a revolver-type action but had a rifle's stock, barrel, etc.? Revolving rifles are quite rare, but anyway, my question is this - How accurate do you think a .454 Casull revolving rifle would be at a distance, say with a 36" rifled barrel?
 
Those were cool! You can buy replicas from some sources...

Longer barrels rarely increase either velocity or accuracy due to the burn rate of the powder.

That would be a neat alternative to a shotgun in bear country though....

The .454 Casull is a very accurate round from a revolver and that rifle would be a very neat companion to a holstered handgun....😀
 
It really depends on a lot of factors but remember that revolvers require some headspacing between the cylinder and the barrel so there is always some loss of enegry in a revolver that would not take place in a locking bolt rifle. I would also think that a barrel lenght of 3 feet is rather excessive for a revolver, becuause no matter how long a barrel is on a revolver it is still a pistol even though it is a rather large cartridge. The distance you expected accuracy at would also be a critical factor.
 


<< Alright, how about a 24" barrel?

About the gas - I'm sure somebody will find a way to seal the cylinder and barrel. >>



yeah the Russians di it 100yrs ago with the Nagant revolver
 


<< About the gas - I'm sure somebody will find a way to seal the cylinder and barrel. >>



LOL... yeah, it's called a "pistol" when the headspace between the cylinder, hand, and frame are sealed 😉

why don't you get a repro piece, instead of trying to get a custom piece? How about a nice Cimarron Arms
Model 1873 in .45 Colt caliber ?
 


<< About the gas - I'm sure somebody will find a way to seal the cylinder and barrel. >>



That was solved over a hundred years ago....no very practical however...

In handgun cartridges the burning rate of the powder negates any benefit in a longer barrel save the accuracy gained by a stable, that is two handed, hold on the gun.

A detechable stock on a long barrelled and scoped handgun would be an alternative....

Ever shoot a fully loaded .454 Casull?
 
Here's an idea - within the rear of the chambers in the cylinder, there're springs around where the percussion cap would be, pushing the 'idle' cartridges against the parts around the barrel. Within the enlarged receiver there's a ledge where the edge of the cartridge catches on, preventing the springs from the ejecting the cartridge if the rifle is tilted downward.

Now, that's nowhere as efficient as a magazine-fed rifle, but I'd say it'd help a bit.

EDIT: When the propellant ignites, the cartridge is thrown backward. Crap. Very stiff springs would just resist the turning of the cylinder. Arrgh! 🙂

Double crap! I just found out that's how the blowback and gas systems work. 🙁
 
What are the differences between the propellant of a Casull cartridge and say, that of a NATO 7.62mm?


<< Ever shoot a fully loaded .454 Casull? >>


Too scared. 😀
 
Do you guys remember the late Colt revolving rifle of the late 1800s that had a revolver-type action but had a rifle's stock, barrel, etc.? Revolving rifles are quite rare, but anyway, my question is this - How accurate do you think a .454 Casull revolving rifle would be at a distance, say with a 36" rifled barrel?

I've never been a fan of a rifle with a pistol cart. Seems like a tool in need of a job. If I did have one, I would rather have one of the mighty Marlin lever actions. I've got one in 45/70 and it is a mighty beast indeed. I used to have a .44 Mag in a '92 Winchester replica (can't remember the brand). Would be a good teen gun, shooting cast bullets in reloads. Lot's of shooting, fairly cheap, and still able to take out Bambi at 100 yards.

John
 
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