Calling all doctors *Update*

[Cuda1447]

Long story short, I have had a history of knee injuries dating back to early HS. I am now 24. I had an ACL reconstruction done on my right knee a few years ago. I know I had a bit of meniscus damage as well as cartilage damage at the time. After the rehab I went back to my normal life. I am not uber active, but probably more active than the average person. I play in a soccer league currently and this is where the problem lies.

From time to time after games and what not I'll have a sore knee. It usually goes away within a day or two, but during that period my range of motion in my knee is limited and sometimes causes me to limp a little bit.

Last week I was playing and I stepped on my leg weird which caused me to go down. I came off the field in a bit of pain. I limped around and walked it off for the next 15 minutes before going back into the game. I wasn't 100% but I was able to tough it out for the rest of the game. After the game the adrenaline war off and it was very stiff and hurt quite a bit. This pain lasted a few days longer than normal and was more severe than normal.

Today I was practicing out in the yard and simply kicked the ball. I went down immediately in a lot of pain. It almost felt like when I tore my ACL back a few years ago. Very sharp pain, felt like I couldn't move it. Its been a few hours now and most of the pain is gone. Again, range of motion is limited at the extremes (straight and bent) and when I do visit those extremes I get a sharp pain. I can walk on it for the most part though.


Weird thing is, I always seem to lose range of motion when I injure it and I don't understand why. Obviously I could go back and see my surgeon, but I figured someone here might be able to give me a bit of insight.




UPDATE


Its been a few days since I posted this thread, but I wanted to update my situation and get a few more opinions if I could. Seems like there are some very knowledgeable people here.


I took ibuprofen and went out with my team. It actually felt pretty good while running/jogging on it. I thought maybe it wasn't anything major, but while jogging (not even hard, it was actually when I stopped) I stepped on it lightly and went down hard. Sharp pains just like earlier in the day. That went away after about 15 minutes but that was pretty much it for me. The next day the knee was really sore and range of motion really limited again. I thought that maybe it was just typical soreness and I was going to give it a few days. It didn't get ANY better. In fact, sometimes when walking on it and trying to straighten the knee completely I got the sharp pains and the knee gave out. This is still occurring today. I've already made an appointment with my ortho surgeon, but unfortunately he can't see me until Aug. 25 (which is crazy, IMO). I am not doing anything outside of walking on my leg right now. I have tried a lot of stretching to work it out, but even if it seems to help temporarily, a few hours later its really tight again. It hurts like a bitch when stretching too. I have basically seen no improvement thus far. I walk with my knee bent at about a 25 degree angle. Bending the knee to far in also creates the sharp pains.


At this point I'm getting pretty concerned. I figure the Doc. will look at it and order an MRI. At which point, who knows? Just curious if there is anything else I should be trying/considering at this point. Ice/heat/stretching is in the arsenal. Staying off it aside from necessary movement is also being practiced.

Thoughts?

BTW, Thanks for everyone's help thus far. Even though I know an Ortho will be able to tell me much more, hearing qualified opinions at least puts my my mind to a bit of ease.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Long story short, I have had a history of knee injuries dating back to early HS. I am now 24. I had an ACL reconstruction done on my right knee a few years ago. I know I had a bit of meniscus damage as well as cartilage damage at the time. After the rehab I went back to my normal life. I am not uber active, but probably more active than the average person. I play in a soccer league currently and this is where the problem lies.

From time to time after games and what not I'll have a sore knee. It usually goes away within a day or two, but during that period my range of motion in my knee is limited and sometimes causes me to limp a little bit.

Last week I was playing and I stepped on my leg weird which caused me to go down. I came off the field in a bit of pain. I limped around and walked it off for the next 15 minutes before going back into the game. I wasn't 100% but I was able to tough it out for the rest of the game. After the game the adrenaline war off and it was very stiff and hurt quite a bit. This pain lasted a few days longer than normal and was more severe than normal.

Today I was practicing out in the yard and simply kicked the ball. I went down immediately in a lot of pain. It almost felt like when I tore my ACL back a few years ago. Very sharp pain, felt like I couldn't move it. Its been a few hours now and most of the pain is gone. Again, range of motion is limited at the extremes (straight and bent) and when I do visit those extremes I get a sharp pain. I can walk on it for the most part though.


Weird thing is, I always seem to lose range of motion when I injure it and I don't understand why. Obviously I could go back and see my surgeon, but I figured someone here might be able to give me a bit of insight.

inflammation.

You're welcome, $20 copay at the door please

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Long story short, I have had a history of knee injuries dating back to early HS. I am now 24. I had an ACL reconstruction done on my right knee a few years ago. I know I had a bit of meniscus damage as well as cartilage damage at the time. After the rehab I went back to my normal life. I am not uber active, but probably more active than the average person. I play in a soccer league currently and this is where the problem lies.

From time to time after games and what not I'll have a sore knee. It usually goes away within a day or two, but during that period my range of motion in my knee is limited and sometimes causes me to limp a little bit.

Last week I was playing and I stepped on my leg weird which caused me to go down. I came off the field in a bit of pain. I limped around and walked it off for the next 15 minutes before going back into the game. I wasn't 100% but I was able to tough it out for the rest of the game. After the game the adrenaline war off and it was very stiff and hurt quite a bit. This pain lasted a few days longer than normal and was more severe than normal.

Today I was practicing out in the yard and simply kicked the ball. I went down immediately in a lot of pain. It almost felt like when I tore my ACL back a few years ago. Very sharp pain, felt like I couldn't move it. Its been a few hours now and most of the pain is gone. Again, range of motion is limited at the extremes (straight and bent) and when I do visit those extremes I get a sharp pain. I can walk on it for the most part though.


Weird thing is, I always seem to lose range of motion when I injure it and I don't understand why. Obviously I could go back and see my surgeon, but I figured someone here might be able to give me a bit of insight.

inflammation.

You're welcome, $20 copay at the door please

No swelling associated with it? How do I stop it? Any danger in playing with it (toughing it out despite the pain?)

You get your copay when you answer all my questions!!!

(BTW, Thanks)

 

[spidey07]

Beat me to it.

That's inflammation and where there's inflammation there is usually a reason for it (damage). I'd go to the doctor or you could take some anti-inflammatory medicine before and after you play as well as ice. Knees aren't a joint you want to be messing with and it sounds like you're just going to keep reinjuring it.

 

[Cuda1447]

Could old cartilage damage cause inflammation? Any danger if I take some anti-inflammation medicine tonight and play on it?

 

[Cuda1447]

Oh, let me add that I have a clicking/popping sound when I bend/straighten my knee a lot. I just chalked it up as my bones smacking each other since I have a lack of cartilage, but I don't know if its something more serious I should be concerned with.

 

[spidey07]

I simply would not play if you have pain, the pain is telling you something. Just go to the doctor (orthopedist) and maybe ask if you need to use a brace when playing. I'm pretty competitive in volleyball so there are a lot of knee injuries with the sport and plenty of guys wear a brace from past injuries many years ago to keep from reinjuring it.

 

[surfsatwerk]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Oh, let me add that I have a clicking/popping sound when I bend/straighten my knee a lot. I just chalked it up as my bones smacking each other since I have a lack of cartilage, but I don't know if its something more serious I should be concerned with.

You have a history of knee problems and now your knee has significant pain. Don't ask anyone here to cosign your decision to tempt fate and play on it tonight. Go to the doctor and get it checked out.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Long story short, I have had a history of knee injuries dating back to early HS. I am now 24. I had an ACL reconstruction done on my right knee a few years ago. I know I had a bit of meniscus damage as well as cartilage damage at the time. After the rehab I went back to my normal life. I am not uber active, but probably more active than the average person. I play in a soccer league currently and this is where the problem lies.

From time to time after games and what not I'll have a sore knee. It usually goes away within a day or two, but during that period my range of motion in my knee is limited and sometimes causes me to limp a little bit.

Last week I was playing and I stepped on my leg weird which caused me to go down. I came off the field in a bit of pain. I limped around and walked it off for the next 15 minutes before going back into the game. I wasn't 100% but I was able to tough it out for the rest of the game. After the game the adrenaline war off and it was very stiff and hurt quite a bit. This pain lasted a few days longer than normal and was more severe than normal.

Today I was practicing out in the yard and simply kicked the ball. I went down immediately in a lot of pain. It almost felt like when I tore my ACL back a few years ago. Very sharp pain, felt like I couldn't move it. Its been a few hours now and most of the pain is gone. Again, range of motion is limited at the extremes (straight and bent) and when I do visit those extremes I get a sharp pain. I can walk on it for the most part though.


Weird thing is, I always seem to lose range of motion when I injure it and I don't understand why. Obviously I could go back and see my surgeon, but I figured someone here might be able to give me a bit of insight.

inflammation.

You're welcome, $20 copay at the door please

No swelling associated with it? How do I stop it? Any danger in playing with it (toughing it out despite the pain?)

You get your copay when you answer all my questions!!!

(BTW, Thanks)

You likely stretched out your ACL or something else when you went down. Cellular injury leads to cellular clean up (inflammation). The amount of inflammation might be small enough that you dont notice any swelling but you'll feel pain at the extreme because things are being pulled taut.

You should take some antinflammatories and try to ride it out, it should pass. But if you feel weakness or continued pain in the knee, there are a couple of super easy physical exams you can try out if you have a buddy or gf to test the knee. Theyre pretty harmless so you're unlikely to injure yourself further. Just google for it or look it up on youtube.

But if this is a repeat thing, I would go to your doc and see if they can give you a support brace. Repaired stuff is never as good as the original so you're much more likely to reaggravate things and repairing it the second time around is always tougher

 

[Cuda1447]

I get what you guys are saying, I know I should go to the Doc. Thing is, I'm used to having knee pain. Its something I've come to live with. After almost every game I usually have knee pain. I just want to understand it better (and a doc could prob. help me with that).

 

[Miramonti]

Clicking and popping could easily be fluid. What you'll need to do is ice it to get rid of the inflamation, then try to rehab it with excercises that strengthen it, like extensions, or whatever is appropriate. Start lightly, and if it doesn't respond to that, and you still feel sharp pains, you'll probably have to get it checked out. That's a guess.

You might have some arthritis setting in in the knee, independent of this injury as well (if not, you probably will at some point.)

 

[BoomerD]

I also had ACL reconstruction and meniscectomy. I have one part that's nearly bone-on-bone in the knee.

My knee surgeon (one of the best in NorCal) sez that until the knee hurts for 6 weeks, don't call. MOST things will "work themselves out." :roll: Not much help when the knee is the size of a fucking basketball and hurts like hell...but over the past 5 years, he's been right.
How old is the ACL repair? I suppose it's possible that you either tore it again, or even pulled the graft out of place.

How stable is the knee? When I demolished my ACL, I could walk fine, had full range of motion with the knee, etc., BUT, something simple like stepping on a rock or uneven ground could cause the knee to fold up and deposit my big ass on the ground.

You COULD have torn the meniscus again as well. That might explain the clicking sounds as the torn piece catches and releases. I had a fairly large tear that would catch and lock the knee. I had to work the knee around until it released. Hurt like a mofo...but felt better afterward.

If this were my knee, I'd be taking ibuprofen or naproxen and icing the knee. 15 minutes every couple of hours to help relieve the inflamation. If it didn't feel better in a few days, THEN I'd call the knee doc. (it always takes a couple of weeks minimum for my work comp insurance company to authorize a doctor visit.)

I definitely wouldn't be playing on it for a week minimum. Give it a chance to heal IF you haven't done any serious damage.

 

[eits]

your rom is limited because the ligaments are scarred and tighter than they were before the injury.

definitely don't play.

see an orthopedist or sports medicine doctor.

the cracking and popping could be a few things, but it sounds like it's just really inflamed. you must have twisted it in a way it didn't like.

when joints crackle and pop, it's most commonly because the ligaments/tendons become inflamed and enlarged and the sound you hear is the sound they make when they slide and snap over each other. but it definitely could potentially be worse than that, so get it checked.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Long story short, I have had a history of knee injuries dating back to early HS. I am now 24. I had an ACL reconstruction done on my right knee a few years ago. I know I had a bit of meniscus damage as well as cartilage damage at the time. After the rehab I went back to my normal life. I am not uber active, but probably more active than the average person. I play in a soccer league currently and this is where the problem lies.

From time to time after games and what not I'll have a sore knee. It usually goes away within a day or two, but during that period my range of motion in my knee is limited and sometimes causes me to limp a little bit.

Last week I was playing and I stepped on my leg weird which caused me to go down. I came off the field in a bit of pain. I limped around and walked it off for the next 15 minutes before going back into the game. I wasn't 100% but I was able to tough it out for the rest of the game. After the game the adrenaline war off and it was very stiff and hurt quite a bit. This pain lasted a few days longer than normal and was more severe than normal.

Today I was practicing out in the yard and simply kicked the ball. I went down immediately in a lot of pain. It almost felt like when I tore my ACL back a few years ago. Very sharp pain, felt like I couldn't move it. Its been a few hours now and most of the pain is gone. Again, range of motion is limited at the extremes (straight and bent) and when I do visit those extremes I get a sharp pain. I can walk on it for the most part though.


Weird thing is, I always seem to lose range of motion when I injure it and I don't understand why. Obviously I could go back and see my surgeon, but I figured someone here might be able to give me a bit of insight.

inflammation.

You're welcome, $20 copay at the door please

No swelling associated with it? How do I stop it? Any danger in playing with it (toughing it out despite the pain?)

You get your copay when you answer all my questions!!!

(BTW, Thanks)

You likely stretched out your ACL or something else when you went down. Cellular injury leads to cellular clean up (inflammation). The amount of inflammation might be small enough that you dont notice any swelling but you'll feel pain at the extreme because things are being pulled taut.

You should take some antinflammatories and try to ride it out, it should pass. But if you feel weakness or continued pain in the knee, there are a couple of super easy orthopedic exams you can try out if you have a buddy or gf to test the knee. Theyre pretty harmless so you're unlikely to injure yourself further. Just google for it or look it up on youtube.

But if this is a repeat thing, I would go to your doc and see if they can give you a support brace. Repaired stuff is never as good as the original so you're much more likely to reaggravate things and repairing it the second time around is always tougher

fixed, and...

this... except the part where you take anti-inflammatories and try to ride it out and letting your unqualified friends try orthopedic tests on your knee... they could do some damage if they don't know how hard to do things or what they're doing. get it checked out before you just pass it off as not that big a deal. it could be a micro-trauma that might get much worse if you mess with it again, it could be a cartilage problem that needs to be addressed surgically, it could be a bunch of things.

 

[Pliablemoose]

There was a recent study that suggests knee arthroscopic surgery is performed too frequently, so I'm on board with the brace/nsaids approach to see if it gets better.

A surgeon will send you for an MRI & scope your knee.

<--had right knee scoped X2 & left X1 (it helped but not that much)

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Long story short, I have had a history of knee injuries dating back to early HS. I am now 24. I had an ACL reconstruction done on my right knee a few years ago. I know I had a bit of meniscus damage as well as cartilage damage at the time. After the rehab I went back to my normal life. I am not uber active, but probably more active than the average person. I play in a soccer league currently and this is where the problem lies.

From time to time after games and what not I'll have a sore knee. It usually goes away within a day or two, but during that period my range of motion in my knee is limited and sometimes causes me to limp a little bit.

Last week I was playing and I stepped on my leg weird which caused me to go down. I came off the field in a bit of pain. I limped around and walked it off for the next 15 minutes before going back into the game. I wasn't 100% but I was able to tough it out for the rest of the game. After the game the adrenaline war off and it was very stiff and hurt quite a bit. This pain lasted a few days longer than normal and was more severe than normal.

Today I was practicing out in the yard and simply kicked the ball. I went down immediately in a lot of pain. It almost felt like when I tore my ACL back a few years ago. Very sharp pain, felt like I couldn't move it. Its been a few hours now and most of the pain is gone. Again, range of motion is limited at the extremes (straight and bent) and when I do visit those extremes I get a sharp pain. I can walk on it for the most part though.


Weird thing is, I always seem to lose range of motion when I injure it and I don't understand why. Obviously I could go back and see my surgeon, but I figured someone here might be able to give me a bit of insight.

inflammation.

You're welcome, $20 copay at the door please

No swelling associated with it? How do I stop it? Any danger in playing with it (toughing it out despite the pain?)

You get your copay when you answer all my questions!!!

(BTW, Thanks)

You likely stretched out your ACL or something else when you went down. Cellular injury leads to cellular clean up (inflammation). The amount of inflammation might be small enough that you dont notice any swelling but you'll feel pain at the extreme because things are being pulled taut.

You should take some antinflammatories and try to ride it out, it should pass. But if you feel weakness or continued pain in the knee, there are a couple of super easy orthopedic exams you can try out if you have a buddy or gf to test the knee. Theyre pretty harmless so you're unlikely to injure yourself further. Just google for it or look it up on youtube.

But if this is a repeat thing, I would go to your doc and see if they can give you a support brace. Repaired stuff is never as good as the original so you're much more likely to reaggravate things and repairing it the second time around is always tougher

fixed, and...

this... except the part where you take anti-inflammatories and try to ride it out and letting your unqualified friends try orthopedic tests on your knee... they could do some damage if they don't know how hard to do things or what they're doing. get it checked out before you just pass it off as not that big a deal. it could be a micro-trauma that might get much worse if you mess with it again, it could be a cartilage problem that needs to be addressed surgically, it could be a bunch of things.

LOL, thanks for the correction. I'm sure the OP was scratching his head at my post because I used the word physical instead of orthopedic.

Yes it could be all kinds of things going on in his knee, but the most likely is probably he just pulled something and its inflammed. He's asking what he can do now, and the best thing to decrease the pain and inflammation would be some rest and NSAIDs. I know you have a personal vendettta against medications but really... it's not like im asking him to go out and score some fentanyl.

The physicals exams are pretty damn striaght forward and there really isnt that much you can do to hurt yourself if you use some common sense.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Long story short, I have had a history of knee injuries dating back to early HS. I am now 24. I had an ACL reconstruction done on my right knee a few years ago. I know I had a bit of meniscus damage as well as cartilage damage at the time. After the rehab I went back to my normal life. I am not uber active, but probably more active than the average person. I play in a soccer league currently and this is where the problem lies.

From time to time after games and what not I'll have a sore knee. It usually goes away within a day or two, but during that period my range of motion in my knee is limited and sometimes causes me to limp a little bit.

Last week I was playing and I stepped on my leg weird which caused me to go down. I came off the field in a bit of pain. I limped around and walked it off for the next 15 minutes before going back into the game. I wasn't 100% but I was able to tough it out for the rest of the game. After the game the adrenaline war off and it was very stiff and hurt quite a bit. This pain lasted a few days longer than normal and was more severe than normal.

Today I was practicing out in the yard and simply kicked the ball. I went down immediately in a lot of pain. It almost felt like when I tore my ACL back a few years ago. Very sharp pain, felt like I couldn't move it. Its been a few hours now and most of the pain is gone. Again, range of motion is limited at the extremes (straight and bent) and when I do visit those extremes I get a sharp pain. I can walk on it for the most part though.


Weird thing is, I always seem to lose range of motion when I injure it and I don't understand why. Obviously I could go back and see my surgeon, but I figured someone here might be able to give me a bit of insight.

inflammation.

You're welcome, $20 copay at the door please

No swelling associated with it? How do I stop it? Any danger in playing with it (toughing it out despite the pain?)

You get your copay when you answer all my questions!!!

(BTW, Thanks)

You likely stretched out your ACL or something else when you went down. Cellular injury leads to cellular clean up (inflammation). The amount of inflammation might be small enough that you dont notice any swelling but you'll feel pain at the extreme because things are being pulled taut.

You should take some antinflammatories and try to ride it out, it should pass. But if you feel weakness or continued pain in the knee, there are a couple of super easy orthopedic exams you can try out if you have a buddy or gf to test the knee. Theyre pretty harmless so you're unlikely to injure yourself further. Just google for it or look it up on youtube.

But if this is a repeat thing, I would go to your doc and see if they can give you a support brace. Repaired stuff is never as good as the original so you're much more likely to reaggravate things and repairing it the second time around is always tougher

fixed, and...

this... except the part where you take anti-inflammatories and try to ride it out and letting your unqualified friends try orthopedic tests on your knee... they could do some damage if they don't know how hard to do things or what they're doing. get it checked out before you just pass it off as not that big a deal. it could be a micro-trauma that might get much worse if you mess with it again, it could be a cartilage problem that needs to be addressed surgically, it could be a bunch of things.

LOL, thanks for the correction. I'm sure the OP was scratching his head at my post because I used the word physical instead of orthopedic.

Yes it could be all kinds of things going on in his knee, but the most likely is probably he just pulled something and its inflammed. He's asking what he can do now, and the best thing to decrease the pain and inflammation would be some rest and NSAIDs. I know you have a personal vendettta against medications but really... it's not like im asking him to go out and score some fentanyl.

The physicals exams are pretty damn striaght forward and there really isnt that much you can do to hurt yourself if you use some common sense.

i have no vendetta against necessary medications for real conditions that can't be treated any other way.

i'm not at all against the use of nsaids for his case... i'm just saying that i don't want his pain and swelling to decrease and have him feel a false sense of safety on a partial tear or something and do something stupid again and doing some serious damage that could have been prevented by an orthopedist.

edit: and if i hurt my knee, there's no way i'd talk anyone unqualified to check for a drawer sign or valgus/varus stress or mcmurrey's... or even patellar ballottement, for that matter.

edit: but you're right, though... ice and rest is good for now... as long as he knows for sure not to overdue anything once the pain goes down and to still get it checked out just in case. personally, i wouldn't use any nsaids because it doesn't help your ligaments to heal while reducing the inflammation (i'm not saying nsaids are bad or anything, i'm just saying for this case, it isn't).

http://www.caringmedical.com/sports_injury/nsaids.asp

 

[Cuda1447]

UPDATE


Its been a few days since I posted this thread, but I wanted to update my situation and get a few more opinions if I could. Seems like there are some very knowledgeable people here.


I took ibuprofen and went out with my team. It actually felt pretty good while running/jogging on it. I thought maybe it wasn't anything major, but while jogging (not even hard, it was actually when I stopped) I stepped on it lightly and went down hard. Sharp pains just like earlier in the day. That went away after about 15 minutes but that was pretty much it for me. The next day the knee was really sore and range of motion really limited again. I thought that maybe it was just typical soreness and I was going to give it a few days. It didn't get ANY better. In fact, sometimes when walking on it and trying to straighten the knee completely I got the sharp pains and the knee gave out. This is still occurring today. I've already made an appointment with my ortho surgeon, but unfortunately he can't see me until Aug. 25 (which is crazy, IMO). I am not doing anything outside of walking on my leg right now. I have tried a lot of stretching to work it out, but even if it seems to help temporarily, a few hours later its really tight again. It hurts like a bitch when stretching too. I have basically seen no improvement thus far. I walk with my knee bent at about a 25 degree angle. Bending the knee to far in also creates the sharp pains.


At this point I'm getting pretty concerned. I figure the Doc. will look at it and order an MRI. At which point, who knows? Just curious if there is anything else I should be trying/considering at this point. Ice/heat/stretching is in the arsenal. Staying off it aside from necessary movement is also being practiced.

Thoughts?

BTW, Thanks for everyone's help thus far. Even though I know an Ortho will be able to tell me much more, hearing qualified opinions at least puts my my mind to a bit of ease.

 

[IGBT]

when it's bone to bone you can always get replacement surgery. replacment knees are light duty. golf once or twoce a month at best.

 

[Nik]

I'm not a doctor, but I play one on AT.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
UPDATE


Its been a few days since I posted this thread, but I wanted to update my situation and get a few more opinions if I could. Seems like there are some very knowledgeable people here.


I took ibuprofen and went out with my team. It actually felt pretty good while running/jogging on it. I thought maybe it wasn't anything major, but while jogging (not even hard, it was actually when I stopped) I stepped on it lightly and went down hard. Sharp pains just like earlier in the day. That went away after about 15 minutes but that was pretty much it for me. The next day the knee was really sore and range of motion really limited again. I thought that maybe it was just typical soreness and I was going to give it a few days. It didn't get ANY better. In fact, sometimes when walking on it and trying to straighten the knee completely I got the sharp pains and the knee gave out. This is still occurring today. I've already made an appointment with my ortho surgeon, but unfortunately he can't see me until Aug. 25 (which is crazy, IMO). I am not doing anything outside of walking on my leg right now. I have tried a lot of stretching to work it out, but even if it seems to help temporarily, a few hours later its really tight again. It hurts like a bitch when stretching too. I have basically seen no improvement thus far. I walk with my knee bent at about a 25 degree angle. Bending the knee to far in also creates the sharp pains.


At this point I'm getting pretty concerned. I figure the Doc. will look at it and order an MRI. At which point, who knows? Just curious if there is anything else I should be trying/considering at this point. Ice/heat/stretching is in the arsenal. Staying off it aside from necessary movement is also being practiced.

Thoughts?

BTW, Thanks for everyone's help thus far. Even though I know an Ortho will be able to tell me much more, hearing qualified opinions at least puts my my mind to a bit of ease.

Sounds like you might have torn something for real. You really should have just taken the meds and laid off of it.

(you still owe me $20 copay from the last visit)

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
UPDATE


Its been a few days since I posted this thread, but I wanted to update my situation and get a few more opinions if I could. Seems like there are some very knowledgeable people here.


I took ibuprofen and went out with my team. It actually felt pretty good while running/jogging on it. I thought maybe it wasn't anything major, but while jogging (not even hard, it was actually when I stopped) I stepped on it lightly and went down hard. Sharp pains just like earlier in the day. That went away after about 15 minutes but that was pretty much it for me. The next day the knee was really sore and range of motion really limited again. I thought that maybe it was just typical soreness and I was going to give it a few days. It didn't get ANY better. In fact, sometimes when walking on it and trying to straighten the knee completely I got the sharp pains and the knee gave out. This is still occurring today. I've already made an appointment with my ortho surgeon, but unfortunately he can't see me until Aug. 25 (which is crazy, IMO). I am not doing anything outside of walking on my leg right now. I have tried a lot of stretching to work it out, but even if it seems to help temporarily, a few hours later its really tight again. It hurts like a bitch when stretching too. I have basically seen no improvement thus far. I walk with my knee bent at about a 25 degree angle. Bending the knee to far in also creates the sharp pains.


At this point I'm getting pretty concerned. I figure the Doc. will look at it and order an MRI. At which point, who knows? Just curious if there is anything else I should be trying/considering at this point. Ice/heat/stretching is in the arsenal. Staying off it aside from necessary movement is also being practiced.

Thoughts?

BTW, Thanks for everyone's help thus far. Even though I know an Ortho will be able to tell me much more, hearing qualified opinions at least puts my my mind to a bit of ease.

Sounds like you might have torn something for real. You really should have just taken the meds and laid off of it.

(you still owe me $20 copay from the last visit)

That's what I was thinking Moooo. I realize I shouldn't have pushed it (and don't think I did) but if I tore something, I did it prior to my final jogging on it and it was going to show itself eventually. How much more likely am I to retear my ACL after having a cadavier put in? Does it make a difference that I've had it operated on before, or is the likely hood of injury about the same. I guess I'm just a bit surprised because I really haven't done any hardcore exercise on my knee. I used to be extremely active and I had gone down to playing soccer once a week and some jogging/light exercise in between. Its just frustrating.

 

[spidey07]

<told you so, but you didn't listen rant>

What the fuck dude! You have damage, we told you there was damage and you didn't fucking listen? WTF! You ignored those that have some knowledge of knee injuries and you ignored it? WTF!

We said lay the fuck off of it and see a doctor. You didn't. I have no pity for you completely fucking up your knee.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
UPDATE


Its been a few days since I posted this thread, but I wanted to update my situation and get a few more opinions if I could. Seems like there are some very knowledgeable people here.


I took ibuprofen and went out with my team. It actually felt pretty good while running/jogging on it. I thought maybe it wasn't anything major, but while jogging (not even hard, it was actually when I stopped) I stepped on it lightly and went down hard. Sharp pains just like earlier in the day. That went away after about 15 minutes but that was pretty much it for me. The next day the knee was really sore and range of motion really limited again. I thought that maybe it was just typical soreness and I was going to give it a few days. It didn't get ANY better. In fact, sometimes when walking on it and trying to straighten the knee completely I got the sharp pains and the knee gave out. This is still occurring today. I've already made an appointment with my ortho surgeon, but unfortunately he can't see me until Aug. 25 (which is crazy, IMO). I am not doing anything outside of walking on my leg right now. I have tried a lot of stretching to work it out, but even if it seems to help temporarily, a few hours later its really tight again. It hurts like a bitch when stretching too. I have basically seen no improvement thus far. I walk with my knee bent at about a 25 degree angle. Bending the knee to far in also creates the sharp pains.


At this point I'm getting pretty concerned. I figure the Doc. will look at it and order an MRI. At which point, who knows? Just curious if there is anything else I should be trying/considering at this point. Ice/heat/stretching is in the arsenal. Staying off it aside from necessary movement is also being practiced.

Thoughts?

BTW, Thanks for everyone's help thus far. Even though I know an Ortho will be able to tell me much more, hearing qualified opinions at least puts my my mind to a bit of ease.

Sounds like you might have torn something for real. You really should have just taken the meds and laid off of it.

(you still owe me $20 copay from the last visit)

That's what I was thinking Moooo. I realize I shouldn't have pushed it (and don't think I did) but if I tore something, I did it prior to my final jogging on it and it was going to show itself eventually. How much more likely am I to retear my ACL after having a cadavier put in? Does it make a difference that I've had it operated on before, or is the likely hood of injury about the same. I guess I'm just a bit surprised because I really haven't done any hardcore exercise on my knee. I used to be extremely active and I had gone down to playing soccer once a week and some jogging/light exercise in between. Its just frustrating.

I dont know the specific rates but it's got to be higher. Having an ACL repair is no joke and it's hard to get back to the same level of activity without really good physical therapy and lots of support afterwards.

Good luck to you, if you tore you ACL again, the reoperation will be tougher since you'll have more scar tissue.

But dont worry Cuda, we can make you better, stronger, faster

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: spidey07
<told you so, but you didn't listen rant>

What the fuck dude! You have damage, we told you there was damage and you didn't fucking listen? WTF! You ignored those that have some knowledge of knee injuries and you ignored it? WTF!

We said lay the fuck off of it and see a doctor. You didn't. I have no pity for you completely fucking up your knee.

Dude, relax. As I said, I didn't push it. I simply jogged lightly on it. The next occurring injury came when I wasn't even jogging, but afterwards while walking. Its clear that I didn't injure it there, it just proved I had injured it. Whew... relax man. No need to get all pissed off.