Calling all christians...

[Cuda1447]

I know there are alot of christians out there. Now I need to know why you all believe in god, and everything that is taught in the bible. Ive been raised a christian, but recently Ive given this alot of thought. Christianity rejects ALOT of things that are widely accepted as true. I.E. Evolution, Dinosaurs, etc...


So will some smart christians please shine some light on this for me?

 

[ElFenix]

God, yes.

everything in the bible, no.

its "a lot" btw.

 

[Cuda1447]

Elaborate? A lot pls

 

[VTrider]

(sitting down w/popcorn)

Oh boy, this will be interesting!

(looking for spectator flame suit)


-VTrider

 

[Czar]

I'm not religous at all but it seems that most religous people I know find confort in the god they belive in and not base history or science on their religion.

 

[Wallydraigle]

A similar question would be to ask the non believers what it would take to convince them that there is a god/higher power. Knowing that would be as valuable as knowing why the believer believes.

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
God, yes.

everything in the bible, no.

its "a lot" btw.

It's " it's " btw.

And you forgot to capitalize a couple of your letters.

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: Czar
I'm not religous at all but it seems that most religous people I know find confort in the god they belive in and not base history or science on their religion.

What good is this comfort if it turns out to be a false security blanket?

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Czar
I'm not religous at all but it seems that most religous people I know find confort in the god they belive in and not base history or science on their religion.

What good is this comfort if it turns out to be a false security blanket?

because religion to most people is only spiritual, people can be religious without beliving every single word in their holy book

 

[Spoooon]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Czar
I'm not religous at all but it seems that most religous people I know find confort in the god they belive in and not base history or science on their religion.

What good is this comfort if it turns out to be a false security blanket?

because religion to most people is only spiritual, people can be religious without beliving every single word in their holy book

true. i think more and more, people are looking at the bible as metaphorical, not literal.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
I know there are alot of christians out there. Now I need to know why you all believe in god, and everything that is taught in the bible. Ive been raised a christian, but recently Ive given this alot of thought. Christianity rejects ALOT of things that are widely accepted as true. I.E. Evolution, Dinosaurs, etc...


So will some smart christians please shine some light on this for me?

While Christianity most definitely rejects evolution, I would hardly say that anyone but a select few reject the existance of dinosaurs. I was raised in a Christian family, church, etc. & have never met anyone who didn't believe dinosaurs existed. There is nothing that would support that, rejecting something because it is not explicitly mentioned in the Bible is asinine.

Viper GTS

 

[Descartes]

ATOT hardly seems to be a conduit for comprehensive information about such a *HUGE* topic.

I suggest reseraching it yourself... you'll learn more that way.

 

[Cyberian]

Originally posted by: VTrider
(sitting down w/popcorn)

Oh boy, this will be interesting!

(looking for spectator flame suit)


-VTrider

I'll bring a few beers over if you like.
I've never, ever heard anything like this discussed here at ATOT.

 

[aswedc]

While Christianity most definitely rejects evolution, I would hardly say that anyone but a select few reject the existance of dinosaurs. I was raised in a Christian family, church, etc. & have never met anyone who didn't believe dinosaurs existed. There is nothing that would support that, rejecting something because it is not explicitly mentioned in the Bible is asinine.

Viper GTS

I would not say that Christianity definately rejects evolution either. They most definately do not believe that humans evolved from a lower species, but evolution as a concept, a species changing due to their enviromental conditions and what is best suited for those conditions, is not against any Christian principle. Unfortunetly, most Christians do seem to reject evolution as a whole because they get all upset over the teaching of evolution in schools.

 

[VTrider]

Cyberian, Religion/God/Spirituality/Evolution, ect. gets discussed here at ATOT once in a while, can generate hundreds of posts that sometimes seems to last for weeks. I think it's good reading IMO, lots of interesting minds at work, but it usually starts to degenerate into an immature pile of flames in you know what I mean (that's when I start to hang out in HOT DEALS!)

Cuda started an interesting topic though, I'm looking forward to everybody's responses.


-VTrider




(BTW Cyberian, a few beers sounds great )

 

[308nato]

I believe in God because if I believed for 1 minute that the highest reasoning being in the universe was a human I would have to put a bullet into my brain.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: 308nato
I believe in God because if I believed for 1 minute that the highest reasoning being in the universe was a human I would have to put a bullet into my brain.

You could always pray to ET

 

[glen]

i think more and more, people are looking at the bible as metaphorical, not literal.

No, more and more people are looking at it literally.
This is new.
It has almost always been looked at as alegory or metaphor.

 

[ziplux]

Originally posted by: lirion
A similar question would be to ask the non believers what it would take to convince them that there is a god/higher power. Knowing that would be as valuable as knowing why the believer believes.

I would need compelling scientific evidence. Or I would need to see the higher power with my own eyes.

 

[MainFramed]

this has a little about jesus and christians i think its a good site

 

[StevenYoo]

Originally posted by: ziplux

Originally posted by: lirion
A similar question would be to ask the non believers what it would take to convince them that there is a god/higher power. Knowing that would be as valuable as knowing why the believer believes.

I would need compelling scientific evidence. Or I would need to see the higher power with my own eyes.

everyone says the same thing.

Some people get a sign and some people don't. I can't explain it, so don't ask me why.

But the whole point of faith is that you believe even though you don't see the physical, tangible evidence.

ziplux if you did receive a sign from God, would you be converted on the spot?

 

[dfi]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
I know there are alot of christians out there. Now I need to know why you all believe in god, and everything that is taught in the bible. Ive been raised a christian, but recently Ive given this alot of thought. Christianity rejects ALOT of things that are widely accepted as true. I.E. Evolution, Dinosaurs, etc...


So will some smart christians please shine some light on this for me?

While Christianity most definitely rejects evolution, I would hardly say that anyone but a select few reject the existance of dinosaurs. I was raised in a Christian family, church, etc. & have never met anyone who didn't believe dinosaurs existed. There is nothing that would support that, rejecting something because it is not explicitly mentioned in the Bible is asinine.

Viper GTS

If rejecting something because it is not explicitly mentioned in the Bible is asinine, then how do you determine whether you're a christian or a morman?

dfi

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: GuybrushThreepwood

Originally posted by: ziplux

Originally posted by: lirion
A similar question would be to ask the non believers what it would take to convince them that there is a god/higher power. Knowing that would be as valuable as knowing why the believer believes.

I would need compelling scientific evidence. Or I would need to see the higher power with my own eyes.

everyone says the same thing.

Some people get a sign and some people don't. I can't explain it, so don't ask me why.

But the whole point of faith is that you believe even though you don't see the physical, tangible evidence.

ziplux if you did receive a sign from God, would you be converted on the spot?

Funny thing is, if you examine OT theology, you'll see that God was a physical, visual deity. He gave countless signs, miracles, etc., but the Jewish people didn't exactly stay faithful.

One of the ironies of modern religious thought.

 

[dfi]

Originally posted by: GuybrushThreepwood

Originally posted by: ziplux

Originally posted by: lirion
A similar question would be to ask the non believers what it would take to convince them that there is a god/higher power. Knowing that would be as valuable as knowing why the believer believes.

I would need compelling scientific evidence. Or I would need to see the higher power with my own eyes.

everyone says the same thing.

Some people get a sign and some people don't. I can't explain it, so don't ask me why.

But the whole point of faith is that you believe even though you don't see the physical, tangible evidence.

ziplux if you did receive a sign from God, would you be converted on the spot?

Ya, everyone bases it on faith. In other words, they believe that a book (the bible) is telling the truth without any empirical evidence. Yet people are skeptical of everything else.

If I told you that my friend witnessed an alien mothership land in his backyard, no one would believe me. (well practically no one). They would tell me that I'm either lying, my friend is lying, my friend was hallucinating, or generally just believe that the story was false. Why? The best reasons I can think of are 1) alien motherships landing in people's backyard is basically an unheard of event (you judge a story based on what you already know to be true), and 2) the reliability of the source is questionable.

The bible was written a very very long time ago, with additions from countless sources, describing events that are basically unheard of in our modern day. The text has traveled through many lands, and shows origins from many cultures, and has gone through numerous revisions. So the same reasons for rejecting my alien mothership story is present in christianity. 1) the bible describes unheard of events in our modern lives, and 2) the reliability of the source is questionable. Yet, people have faith that the bible is telling the truth, but have no faith that I'm telling the truth. Is it because I (as a person) am tangible and all too common, and therefore (ironically) not worthy of other's faith? Or is it because the alien mothership story offers no possible benefit, while the bible offers eternal salvation? I'm not really sure.

If you read all that... and the discussion continues, then I'll post some other fun religion questions I have.

dfi

 

[dfi]

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: GuybrushThreepwood

Originally posted by: ziplux

Originally posted by: lirion
A similar question would be to ask the non believers what it would take to convince them that there is a god/higher power. Knowing that would be as valuable as knowing why the believer believes.

I would need compelling scientific evidence. Or I would need to see the higher power with my own eyes.

everyone says the same thing.

Some people get a sign and some people don't. I can't explain it, so don't ask me why.

But the whole point of faith is that you believe even though you don't see the physical, tangible evidence.

ziplux if you did receive a sign from God, would you be converted on the spot?

Funny thing is, if you examine OT theology, you'll see that God was a physical, visual deity. He gave countless signs, miracles, etc., but the Jewish people didn't exactly stay faithful.

One of the ironies of modern religious thought.

Haha, seriously! If I saw an entity that was capable of creating a cloud by day, a pillar of fire at night, making mana appear from the floor, and killing all the first borns of egypt... oh man, I would never worship a golden calf!

dfi