Call out to Meg Whitman

[ericlp]

LOL I stand corrected. Almost the entire Democrat Party.

BTW I agree entirely with your first post; much as I despise Bloomberg I have no problem with him spending part of his own fortune to get elected. But my point remains - everything that can be said about Whitman's spending MUST be said about Obama's spending except that he was spending others' money. Ergo Obama is entirely germane unless one's problem is specifically that it IS Whitman's money.

Oh come on... Like the republican party doesn't spend any money. Both parties are fucked. It doesn't matter. The two party system is broken face it. I guess you had no problem when palin spent all that money or Mcsame?

It doesn't matter who runs in these races the only ones that win are the ones with the money. Want to get elected? You better have some cash or your going no where. I'm with moonbeam better off just picking them out of the phone book. Until you clowns wake up and smell the bullshit, nothing will change in this nation.

 

[jman19]

Obama is perfectly germane to this issue. If it is sickening that Whitman spends $100,000 during a recession (which BTW is officially over LOL), if this indicates her "fervor" to "buy" the office, then it is certainly germane to point out that Obama spent far, far more in his "fervor" to "buy" the office. The only way that has nothing to do with the issue is if you somehow feel that it's sickening to spend one's own money but perfect okay to spend others' money. Although come to think of it, that viewpoint probably encompasses the entire Democrat Party . . .

Again, you either are intellectually dishonest or a fool if you can't distinguish between campaign donations/fundraising and taxes. It also appears you can't grasp simple numbers.

The amount of money spent in politics is nauseating.

 

[Fern]

You people in CA have some nutty politicians. Why would any sane person SPEND $100 million of their own money for that job? The state gov is about to implode.

Besides, she looks like Ben Franklin in a bra.

Fern

 

[her209]

Besides, she looks like Ben Franklin in a bra.

Fern

Ouch. That's harsh.

 

[JSt0rm]

You people in CA have some nutty politicians. Why would any sane person SPEND $100 million of their own money for that job? The state gov is about to implode.

Besides, she looks like Ben Franklin in a bra.

Fern

She is probably planning on profiting in some indirect way.

 

[bfdd]

Moonbeam is no mere mortal.

What I want to know Moonbeam is how come people I know who have no clue who the fuck you are are telling me they're going to vote for Moonbeam. Is Moonbeam some slang I don't know about?

 

[Moonbeam]

What I want to know Moonbeam is how come people I know who have no clue who the fuck you are are telling me they're going to vote for Moonbeam. Is Moonbeam some slang I don't know about?

I'm Jerry Brown.

 

[bfdd]

I'm Jerry Brown.

Ah makes sense then.

btw I was being honest.

 

[Moonbeam]

Ah makes sense then.

btw I was being honest.

In that case you should know that Jerry Brown is called Governor Moonbeam.

 

[bfdd]

In that case you should know that Jerry Brown is called Governor Moonbeam.

Thanks Moonbeam for clearing that up, I didn't know that. I just heard it a few times yesterday and today I was like "what the fuck is going on? Moonbeam is crazy"

 

[Moonbeam]

Thanks Moonbeam for clearing that up, I didn't know that. I just heard it a few times yesterday and today I was like "what the fuck is going on? Moonbeam is crazy"

Jerry Brown had Jesuit training. He's bright and was trained to think. He is so far advanced spiritually over the average person he gets called names, as an airy fairy intellect. This is they way the stupid treat superior beings. Jealously you see, that old self hate. Moonbeam is a term of derision for those who chase moonbeams and can do noting practical in life at all. So he got called Governor Moonbeam. And I used to be called Governor Moonbeam after him because one of my friends named me that, hehe. So I used it as my handle here, because I know how I would be seen and I knew too what it is the moon really reflects.

 

[zinfamous]

Seriously. I would much rather have politicians use their OWN money to run their campaign. Much more "honorable" than taking donations.

so you prefer a system where only the very rich would be in power. awesome.

 

[Moonbeam]

so you prefer a system where only the very rich would be in power. awesome.

It's not a good idea. At least with public campaigns there is some public somewhere to vet the candidate and decide he's worth giving money to, although sadly it's mostly a matter of the person representing a party.

But for all the flaws in that it's better than having some asshole out of nowhere buying a governorship.

 

[werepossum]

Oh come on... Like the republican party doesn't spend any money. Both parties are fucked. It doesn't matter. The two party system is broken face it. I guess you had no problem when palin spent all that money or Mcsame?

It doesn't matter who runs in these races the only ones that win are the ones with the money. Want to get elected? You better have some cash or your going no where. I'm with moonbeam better off just picking them out of the phone book. Until you clowns wake up and smell the bullshit, nothing will change in this nation.

Of course the Republican Party spends money - not quite as much, but only because they don't have the ultra-wealthy or the organizations that can force people to contribute like the unions. But my point is that I didn't mind when Bloomberg (a Pubby by the way) or Palin or McCain or Whitman or Obama spent the money - I'm just saying if it's obscene for one to spend it, then it's obscene for them ALL to spend it. Frankly, considering how intrusive and all-encompassing is our modern federal government, I find the amounts spent to be laughably low. Obama was the absolute king of campaign spending and I'd bet we spend more in four years on low fat ice cream or bottled water or Happy Meals than he and McCain together - and this was an election where Obama promised to change our entire nation. Usually it's just two clowns trying to seem more like 50 percent plus one of the population.

By the way, there is one group of politician this cycle who is winning with comparatively very little money and virtually no corporate backing - the Tea Party candidates. They bedeviled the Republican Party in the primaries and they are going to bedevil the Democrat Party come November. Judging from the results they are actually pretty close to what you'd get if you selected people randomly from the phone book. I'm guessing you're 100 percent behind them, right? LOL

 

[werepossum]

Again, you either are intellectually dishonest or a fool if you can't distinguish between campaign donations/fundraising and taxes. It also appears you can't grasp simple numbers.

The amount of money spent in politics is nauseating.

So to recap, spending your own money or money voluntarily given is bad, but spending money taken by government is good . . .

Repeat after me: Drugs are bad, m'kay?

 

[bfdd]

so you prefer a system where only the very rich would be in power. awesome.

That's not what I said at all. I didn't say we should stop donations or anything did I? I just think someone who's willing to pony up such a large sum for themselves without having to take in corporate sponsors is more "honorable". They may be just as big a douche bag, but I'd rather see them running with their own money than see a politician who possibly owes someone something. Remember I come from California and was in high school when we had Gray Davis. The mother fucker was the biggest whore around and didn't even try to hide it.

 

[BoomerD]

I wouldn't have a problem with the wealthy spending their own money to get elected if they didn't expect to get it back...In almost every case, (certainly in Meg's case) they merely "loan money to their campaign" then get repaid as campaign contributions come in. IMO, that allows the special interests to gain even more access to candidates.

SOMETHING needs to be done to take the money out of politics. If I had the answer, I'd either be rich as hell...or killed by the special interests...

 

[Greenman]

Meg Whitman's fervor to buy the governor's seat in Cali is exactly why she shouldn't be elected to office.

I agree. Something stinks, we just haven't found the body yet. The problem is that if we don't elect Meg, we get Moonbeam. There is absolutely no doubt Moonie will drive California into the ground, we'll be third world in two years. With Meg, there is a very long outside chance that we might survive.
It's pretty grim here in the land of fruits and nuts.

 

[Pocatello]

Imagine all the hookers and blows you can buy with that money, my eyes glazes over just thinking about it. Or a private island!

 

[Craig234]

You do realize that you'd probably get more votes if you spent $100,000,000 to feed the hungry instead of on ridiculous tv and radio advertisements, right?

No, she wouldn't.

Anybody else sickened by this? We're in a recession, depression... whatever you want to call it... But Meg Whitman has $100,000,000 to waste on tv ads.

As much as I oppose Meg Whitman, and her trying to buy the office, she's not the problem.

The problem is that it TAKES over $100M to get elected, whether that money is from an ego-driven billionare or someone who raises it from coproations who want a return.

 

[Craig234]

Remember I come from California and was in high school when we had Gray Davis. The mother fucker was the biggest whore around and didn't even try to hide it.

No, he wasn't. He was, IMO, a real 'public servant' - albeit one who had to raise big bucks like the others as I just pointed out.

Most Californians were ignorant about Davis (including me) despite bhis being governor - in fact it seems the attacks on him came from the 'special interests' he opposed mostly.

I learned more about Davis during the campaign, when some info was published with things he had done few had heard of.

It's very ironic for CA to get pissed about Enron, and use that anger to throw out the governor who was anti-Enron and replace him with friend of Enron Arnold.

 

[Craig234]

You people in CA have some nutty politicians. Why would any sane person SPEND $100 million of their own money for that job? The state gov is about to implode.

Besides, she looks like Ben Franklin in a bra.

Fern

Why did Arnold?

(Campaigned how he'd spend his own money so he didn't have to take special interest money, and then took MORE special interest money than Gray Davis had).

Marketing beats facts more often than not.

 

[Craig234]

Obama is perfectly germane to this issue. If it is sickening that Whitman spends $100,000 during a recession (which BTW is officially over LOL), if this indicates her "fervor" to "buy" the office, then it is certainly germane to point out that Obama spent far, far more in his "fervor" to "buy" the office. The only way that has nothing to do with the issue is if you somehow feel that it's sickening to spend one's own money but perfect okay to spend others' money. Although come to think of it, that viewpoint probably encompasses the entire Democrat Party . . .

If elections allow private donations, then the more people donating to someone, the better for democracy.

It's when a few people can change the results of an election by spending money because they're rich, to push an agenda the public wouldn't vote for, that democracy is defeated.

 

[cubby1223]

Anybody else sickened by this? We're in a recession, depression... whatever you want to call it... But Meg Whitman has $100,000,000 to waste on tv ads.

You are sicked by a rich person spreading her money around to others?

 

[cubby1223]

If elections allow private donations, then the more people donating to someone, the better for democracy.

If elections allow private donations, then the more special favors the elected officials owe to those who financed the campaign

It's when a few people can change the results of an election by <whatever means of their choosing>, to push an agenda the public wouldn't vote for, that democracy is defeated.

Like your hero Hugo Chavez