Call of Juarez ...Another Gun?

[apoppin]

Update: With Vista and Shader Model 4.0, CoJ is Seriously a good looking and huge performance hog ..

With rig in Sig - using my GTS-640 OC - i can barely get out of the teens with all in-game settings maxed --except i only got to 4xAA/16xAF ... never mind the HQ and multi-sampling possibilities ... even turning the map size down from 2048 to 1034 AND turning OFF AA only made a few FPS difference ... i guess i need to set shadows and textures down and maybe try a bit AF and even AA ...

we need faster Video cards
:Q

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the reviews were ... well, what do you think ... i hear precious little except it might be OK with not-so-optimum controls ... some call it a sleeper
[and i searched but it doesn't go back to far or else i spelled Warez wrong]
--if it is like Gun i would feel very badly that i paid more than $10 for it

i have a decent gaming system and are hoping for a decent FPS with good visuals, sure ... but i am looking for good game play ... and a Western theme is a 'plus' - even if Gun nearly shot it and left it for dead for me

shall i open the box ?... i am having second thoughts

is Ubisoft supporting their games pretty well?

no DX10 pathway, right?

and if i keep it, patch 1.1.1.0, right? ... even though i don't need multiplayer?

 

[apoppin]

oh noes ... is this Starforce?
:Q

http://www.coj-game.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=907

if so, back it goes .. i think PREY's latest patch has crap like this ... glad it's isolated to a single partition
--just say no to crappy copy protection !

 

[Noema]

Starfoce?

:thumbsdown:

I still have nightmares about that thing and Silent Hunter III.

 

[pontifex]

Gun was an amazing game. I loved it. This thing is nowhere close to it.

totally different style of play, this is mostly FPS.

I'm a huge Old West fan and this game was painful to play.

you should have tried the demo before buying.

 

[apoppin]

you should have tried the demo before buying

... naw ... Gun was $9.95 ... i am still on 56K ... see?
--and i *hated* Gun ... it was "amazing", all-right ... flashing signs "talk to shorty" ... and some great and some awful textures ... did they EVER patch it?

as to CoJ ... i can still return it ... it is UNopened ... Starforce is a no-no for me ... is it confirmed?
-i only trust OUR forum

 

[Jeeebus]

Originally posted by: apoppin
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>you should have tried the demo before buying</end quote></div> ... naw ... Gun was $9.95 ... i am still on 56K ... see?
--and i *hated* Gun ... it was "amazing", all-right ... flashing signs "talk to shorty" ... and some great and some awful textures ... did they EVER patch it?

as to CoJ ... i can still return it ... it is UNopened ... Starforce is a no-no for me ... is it confirmed?
-i only trust OUR forum

I'm Hoodoo Brown!!!!


- You were.

 

[m21s]

Call of Juarez uses the SecuROM 7 copy protection system, as well as a CD Key method and CD check.
Securom 7.24.0009 (Patch 1.1.0.0 updates the protection to version 7.27.0014)

It appears that Some European Editions of Call of Juarez have the much worse StarForce copy protection system.


I've played and beat it. Thumbs up for me, I actually enjoyed this game very much!

 

[CP5670]

Actually Securom 7 is worse in a way. It's a rootkit-like thing that is difficult to remove, much more so than Starforce.

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: CP5670
Actually Securom 7 is worse in a way. It's a rootkit-like thing that is difficult to remove, much more so than Starforce.

Securom has never cause any of the sort of conflicts and possible damage attributed to Starforce. Plus, it's not developed by Russians who link to pirated content on their own forums to show how "unsecure" other software is!

 

[CP5670]

But Starforce can be removed easily as long as you know it's on your system. That certainly can't be said about Securom. You need third party programs to do it that aren't very easy to find.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: apoppin
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>you should have tried the demo before buying</end quote></div> ... naw ... Gun was $9.95 ... i am still on 56K ... see?
--and i *hated* Gun ... it was "amazing", all-right ... flashing signs "talk to shorty" ... and some great and some awful textures ... did they EVER patch it?

as to CoJ ... i can still return it ... it is UNopened ... Starforce is a no-no for me ... is it confirmed?
-i only trust OUR forum

i don't think they ever patched it but I loved that game. That had been the most fun PC gaem I had played in a long time when I bought it. Sure it had a few bugs, but nothing game breaking. to each his own though.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: m21s
Call of Juarez uses the SecuROM 7 copy protection system, as well as a CD Key method and CD check.
Securom 7.24.0009 (Patch 1.1.0.0 updates the protection to version 7.27.0014)

It appears that Some European Editions of Call of Juarez have the much worse StarForce copy protection system.


I've played and beat it. Thumbs up for me, I actually enjoyed this game very much!

SecurRom sucks .... StarFarce is [russian mafia] evil
:thumbsdown:

i will install CoJ

thanks for the clarification [i already d/led the patch (overnight) ... just in case]

 

[apoppin]

i keep getting PMs saying it is crap and don't open it ... CoJ not worth it for $40?


it still sits UNopened

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: apoppin
i keep getting PMs saying it is crap and don't open it ... CoJ not worth it for $40?


it still sits UNopened

i wouldn't pay $40 for it.

 

[apoppin]

i wouldn't pay $40 for it.

not even to be the first kid on this block to really benchmark it ?

 

[CrystalBay]

I think you'll like because it take some skill...

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: apoppin
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>i wouldn't pay $40 for it.</end quote></div>
not even to be the first kid on this block to really benchmark it ?

i don't care about benchmarks.

 

[apoppin]

i do

http://www.gamershell.com/news/39093.html

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1642

--Call of Juarez has DX10 features!
:Q

it's my first "dx10" game ?
$40 is "cool" ... considering what i spent on HW ... now i can finally "show it off"


http://www.extremetech.com/art.../0,1697,2147111,00.asp
. . .has a June 18 bench

Physics based particle water system - Physics done via geometry shader</end quote></div>
apoppin rips CoJ box open
. . . lets take a looksee

according to this ...

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/thelawman/index.html

i already have the patch - v 1.1.0.0 - 94.7 MB already has the benchmark included and the DX10 path

Call of Juarez (DX10) v1.1.1.0 Patch

This patch includes the DirectX 10 benchmark and includes several bug fixes. This patch can only be installed in the DirectX 10 version of the game on Windows Vista.

Oh yeah ... gotta install it in Vista ... sigh ... ANOTHER [final] clean install for the GTS and CoJ
. . . see you in a few hours with DX10 "impressions" over here:

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...d=2062057&STARTPAGE=12

. . . and game play impressions back here

--it's gotta be better than Gun

 

[BFG10K]

I don't know about Gun but I personally found CoJ to be awesome.

 

[m21s]

Originally posted by: BFG10K
I don't know about Gun but I personally found CoJ to be awesome.

 

[CrystalBay]

It seems to me the Eastern Euro developers take some chances on different gameplay on their FPS which I like .

 

[mflacy]

Originally posted by: BFG10K
I don't know about Gun but I personally found CoJ to be awesome.

Gun >>>>>> CoJ by a mile.

Go pick up Gun. It's usually priced around $10 these days.

 

[apoppin]

i HATED Gun ... Llike NWN2 but they never bothererd to patch or fix it ... i got it for less then $10 and i felt like i got ripped off .. it looked like an alpha but played OK ... my "immersion" was destroyed by the unfinished look and the FLASHING SIGNS telling you where to go next and who to talk to and what to do ... it could have been good ... with a few more months refining it.

 

[apoppin]

i HAD to Update: With Vista and Shader Model 4.0, CoJ is Seriously a good looking and huge performance hog ..

With rig in Sig - using my GTS-640 OC - i can barely get out of the teens with all in-game settings maxed --except i only got to 4xAA/16xAF ... never mind the HQ and multi-sampling possibilities ... even turning the map size down from 2048 to 1034 AND turning OFF AA only made a few FPS difference ... i guess i need to set shadows and textures down and maybe try a bit AF and even AA ...

we need faster Video cards

barely into the game ... just trying to get the performance right - above 30 fps ... might have to use my CRT or use DX9C
:Q

 

[MegaVovaN]

This is why you wait for DX10 games to come out, read up what hardware pwns it ez and THEN buy the hardwarez!
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