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California will make its own affordable insulin

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Greenman said:
I'm all for inexpensive insulin, but California has a pretty solid track record of blowing through budgets. HSR and the Bay bridge are the first two that come to mind. We'll do it, but the cost will be many times the estimate, and it will be years before any insulin will ever be produced.
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I mean, you're welcome to move to a state where your tax dollars go toward more important things than people.
 
Greenman said:
I'm all for inexpensive insulin, but California has a pretty solid track record of blowing through budgets. HSR and the Bay bridge are the first two that come to mind. We'll do it, but the cost will be many times the estimate, and it will be years before any insulin will ever be produced.
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California's current $97,000,000,000 surplus should provide them with a decent starting place I think.
 
Greenman said:
I'm all for inexpensive insulin, but California has a pretty solid track record of blowing through budgets. HSR and the Bay bridge are the first two that come to mind. We'll do it, but the cost will be many times the estimate, and it will be years before any insulin will ever be produced.
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I would be shocked if they got it to market in less than 5 years. A decade is more likely.
 
[DHT]Osiris said:
I mean, you're welcome to move to a state where your tax dollars go toward more important things than people.
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I am moving to another state, but not because of blown budgets. My primary goal is an equal or better quality of life for less money. Turns out that's pretty easy to do.
I've lived here for over 60 years, and clearly remember when it was an absolutely awesome place. Now it's over crowed, dirty, and crime is rampant. The last couple of times I've been robbed the police won't even come out to take a report, they have a website where you file your own police report. A cop signed them and emailed me a copy.
The city I live in had to shut down the local park because it was littered with used needles. Lots of places in the Bay area feel like a third world country. I don't want to live like that, so I have to move.
 
uclaLabrat said:
I would be shocked if they got it to market in less than 5 years. A decade is more likely.
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It all depends on how they do it. If they start from scratch, ten years seems like a reasonable estimate. If the state buy's an existing facility that's ready to produce, we would only have to remodel it to meet state requirements, and hire all new staff to be sure they're diverse enough. I think we could pull that off in five years.
 
Greenman said:
I am moving to another state, but not because of blown budgets. My primary goal is an equal or better quality of life for less money. Turns out that's pretty easy to do.
I've lived here for over 60 years, and clearly remember when it was an absolutely awesome place. Now it's over crowed, dirty, and crime is rampant. The last couple of times I've been robbed the police won't even come out to take a report, they have a website where you file your own police report. A cop signed them and emailed me a copy.
The city I live in had to shut down the local park because it was littered with used needles. Lots of places in the Bay area feel like a third world country. I don't want to live like that, so I have to move.
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Maybe if other states weren't so aggressively hostile towards their citizens, half the nation wouldn't be flooding the two or three states actively trying to make things better for everyone, not just the richest.

I'm sure you'll be fine in whatever state you end up in though.
 
[DHT]Osiris said:
Maybe if other states weren't so aggressively hostile towards their citizens, half the nation wouldn't be flooding the two or three states actively trying to make things better for everyone, not just the richest.

I'm sure you'll be fine in whatever state you end up in though.
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I hope it all works out, though one never knows what tomorrow will bring.
 
Greenman said:
I am moving to another state, but not because of blown budgets. My primary goal is an equal or better quality of life for less money. Turns out that's pretty easy to do.
I've lived here for over 60 years, and clearly remember when it was an absolutely awesome place. Now it's over crowed, dirty, and crime is rampant. The last couple of times I've been robbed the police won't even come out to take a report, they have a website where you file your own police report. A cop signed them and emailed me a copy.
The city I live in had to shut down the local park because it was littered with used needles. Lots of places in the Bay area feel like a third world country. I don't want to live like that, so I have to move.
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Don't know which state you're moving to, but let's hope it's not any of these 10 states if you're concerned about crime:
worldpopulationreview.com

Most Dangerous States 2026

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worldpopulationreview.com worldpopulationreview.com
1. Mississippi
2. Louisiana
3. Florida
4. Arkansas
5. Texas
6. Oklahoma
7. Missouri
8. Alabama
9. Georgia
10. South Carolina
 
kt said:
Don't know which state you're moving to, but let's hope it's not any of these 10 states if you're concerned about crime:
worldpopulationreview.com

Most Dangerous States 2026

Discover population, economy, health, and more with the most comprehensive global statistics at your fingertips.
worldpopulationreview.com worldpopulationreview.com
1. Mississippi
2. Louisiana
3. Florida
4. Arkansas
5. Texas
6. Oklahoma
7. Missouri
8. Alabama
9. Georgia
10. South Carolina
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Of the 15 things that go into the rating, only 2 are actual crimes.

This one paints a different picture.
en.wikipedia.org

List of U.S. states and territories by violent crime rate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
 
ch33zw1z said:
Enjoy that Deep South weather 😉 I hear they have something that resembles medical care there, maybe
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Ugh if there is any year you don't want to live in the South for the weather, this would be it. And in 20 years this will probably be a normal summer in the confederacy.
 
ch33zw1z said:
Enjoy that Deep South weather 😉 I hear they have something that resembles medical care there, maybe
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As long as your clan dues are paid up and you've kept your sheet clean you get to use the "private" medical system. That one has imported witch doctors, not the local guy's that never took advanced voodoo.
 
Greenman said:
The last couple of times I've been robbed the police won't even come out to take a report, they have a website where you file your own police report.
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LMAO

The cops used to come out for robbery? Man thats some service. Which expensive burg do you live in? Unless somebody died or was about to die the cops wouldn't bother to show up at most of our stores which were scattered across mid to large sized towns and smaller cities. Meth heads steal a dump truck and drive it though a cinderblock wall to get your non-existent ATM? Go to the station and file a report. Manager skips town with the contents of the safe? Go to the station and file a report. Nutcase sets fire to a half dozen cars in the parking lot? Go to the station and file a report (after the FD is done of course). Drunken person urinates on the other customers and refuses to leave? Well you get the idea.

I've personally interacted with the cops maybe three times at our business. One a cop lost their gun in our store (we found it), two an employee was being sought for connection to a murder, and three somebody expired in store due to natural causes. I wouldn't set your sights too high in this department.

Man I would have killed for a website instead of dealing with whatever surly officers are riding the front desk on a random day.
 
K1052 said:
LMAO

The cops used to come out for robbery? Man thats some service. Which expensive burg do you live in? Unless somebody died or was about to die the cops wouldn't bother to show up at most of our stores which were scattered across mid to large sized towns and smaller cities. Meth heads steal a dump truck and drive it though a cinderblock wall to get your non-existent ATM? Go to the station and file a report. Manager skips town with the contents of the safe? Go to the station and file a report. Nutcase sets fire to a half dozen cars in the parking lot? Go to the station and file a report (after the FD is done of course). Drunken person urinates on the other customers and refuses to leave? Well you get the idea.

I've personally interacted with the cops maybe three times at our business. One a cop lost their gun in our store, two an employee was being sought for connection to a murder, and three somebody expired in store due to natural causes. I wouldn't set your sights too high in this department.

Man I would have killed for a website instead of dealing with whatever surly officers are riding the front desk on a random day.
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Exactly. The police in this country are poorly trained, unaccountable, mostly power tripping, and not motivated because they are untouchable for the most parts.

In Europe police are trained two years, and some countries require an associate's degree. Policing this country need serious reform, because they are not good public servants for the most part.
 
K1052 said:
LMAO

The cops used to come out for robbery? Man thats some service. Which expensive burg do you live in? Unless somebody died or was about to die the cops wouldn't bother to show up at most of our stores which were scattered across mid to large sized towns and smaller cities. Meth heads steal a dump truck and drive it though a cinderblock wall to get your non-existent ATM? Go to the station and file a report. Manager skips town with the contents of the safe? Go to the station and file a report. Nutcase sets fire to a half dozen cars in the parking lot? Go to the station and file a report (after the FD is done of course). Drunken person urinates on the other customers and refuses to leave? Well you get the idea.

I've personally interacted with the cops maybe three times at our business. One a cop lost their gun in our store (we found it), two an employee was being sought for connection to a murder, and three somebody expired in store due to natural causes. I wouldn't set your sights too high in this department.

Man I would have killed for a website instead of dealing with whatever surly officers are riding the front desk on a random day.
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he’s not in for a rude awakening leaving shitty CA at all, nope.
 
kt said:
Sure the data and indicators they use to do the rating are not all actual crimes, but they create the conditions that could lead to higher crime rate.
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The conditions for crime aren't crime. I'm interested in violent crime and theft, the actual numbers. That seems like the best way to measure violent crime and theft.
 
K1052 said:
LMAO

The cops used to come out for robbery? Man thats some service. Which expensive burg do you live in? Unless somebody died or was about to die the cops wouldn't bother to show up at most of our stores which were scattered across mid to large sized towns and smaller cities. Meth heads steal a dump truck and drive it though a cinderblock wall to get your non-existent ATM? Go to the station and file a report. Manager skips town with the contents of the safe? Go to the station and file a report. Nutcase sets fire to a half dozen cars in the parking lot? Go to the station and file a report (after the FD is done of course). Drunken person urinates on the other customers and refuses to leave? Well you get the idea.

I've personally interacted with the cops maybe three times at our business. One a cop lost their gun in our store (we found it), two an employee was being sought for connection to a murder, and three somebody expired in store due to natural causes. I wouldn't set your sights too high in this department.

Man I would have killed for a website instead of dealing with whatever surly officers are riding the front desk on a random day.
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Sounds like you need to move as well.
 
K1052 said:
I am next week. To Southern California.
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Great climate, way to crowded for me. House prices are pretty steep as well.
If you need to drive much, buy an electric car, fuel prices here sailed through absurd last month and appear to be headed toward insane.
 
Greenman said:
Great climate, way to crowded for me. House prices are pretty steep as well.
If you need to drive much, buy an electric car, fuel prices here sailed through absurd last month and appear to be headed toward insane.
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I simply cannot with the heat in the south. It’s 105 in Austin today. My husband starts sweating at the mere thought of going outside.

California gas prices have always been higher relative to where I’ve lived so not surprised buy them. We already have one EV and I’m going to trade my PHEV in for one soon after the move.
 
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