California Wildfires

[KMFJD]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1876871750379864511

https://www.nbcnews.com/weather/wildfires/live-blog/live-updates-pacific-palisades-wildfire-rapidly-grows-california-rcna186685

can the LAPD put out fires instead of starting them?

 

[IronWing]

Plethora of webcams here:

ALERTCalifornia

ALERTCalifornia is a UC San Diego public safety program working to understand wildfire and other natural disasters to determine short and long-term impacts on people and the environment.

cameras.alertcalifornia.org

Palisades Fire perimeter here:

Palisades Fire | CAL FIRE

www.fire.ca.gov

Eaton Fire perimeter here soon:

Eaton Fire | CAL FIRE

www.fire.ca.gov

Hurst Fire perimeter here soon:

Hurst Fire | CAL FIRE

www.fire.ca.gov

Note: the cameras are live feeds but you can watch up to 12 hours of time lapses by clicking on the play button at the bottom of the screen.

 

[Pens1566]

This looks awful

https://twitter.com/x/status/1876863865612329127

 

[Fenixgoon]

This looks awful

https://twitter.com/x/status/1876863865612329127

Holy shit that is awful

 

[Amused]

I'm on the beach in Redondo Beach miles away from the fires and we're covered in smoke and ash this morning with horrible air quality. I think it's the Eaton fire smoke coming this way.

 

[allisolm]

Palisades fire - 0% contained. 5000 acres
Eaton fire - 0% contained. 2000 acres and 2 deaths
Hurst fire - 500 acres 3000+ evacuated
38000+_ evacuation warnings

 

[NutBucket]

I'm on the beach in Redondo Beach miles away from the fires and we're covered in smoke and ash this morning with horrible air quality. I think it's the Eaton fire smoke coming this way.

Correct. Yet at home near Culver City the air was decent (I work near LAX, also bad here).

 

[sandorski]

Irrigating the Wilderness might be the solution. At least a band along the perimeter of cities. Not an easy solution because of Water alone. Shading is also a possibility from things in Space to White Sheets. None would be cheap, some could be disastrous.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Irrigating the Wilderness might be the solution. At least a band along the perimeter of cities. Not an easy solution because of Water alone. Shading is also a possibility from things in Space to White Sheets. None would be cheap, some could be disastrous.

The solution is really easy: don't build in environments that wildfires not only regularly occur, but are required for natural ecosystems.

 

[K1052]

The solution is really easy: don't build in environments that wildfires not only regularly occur, but are required for natural ecosystems.

When we were looking at homes in SD I kept seeing beautiful houses with nice views that had only one minor problem...they were on hills or in canyons. Down in the canyons I could see they were jammed with brush and eucalyptus trees. No thank you.

 

[sandorski]

The solution is really easy: don't build in environments that wildfires not only regularly occur, but are required for natural ecosystems.

They largely did that, the Environment is Changing. 10s of Millions of Americans are at risk of being displaced due to the Environment around them becoming increasingly hostile.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

When we were looking at homes in SD I kept seeing beautiful houses with nice views that had only one minor problem...they were on hills or in canyons. Down in the canyons I could see they were jammed with brush and eucalyptus trees. No thank you.

Yup, there's a ton of expensive oceanfront property in FL, SC, NC, GA as well. Great investment, whole place demolishes itself within 10 years.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

They largely did that, the Environment is Changing. 10s of Millions of Americans are at risk of being displaced due to the Environment around them becoming increasingly hostile.

Unless weather underground is insane, LA has gotten less than a quarter inch of rain since last spring. Becoming increasingly hostile? That's like living on fucking mars, man. Pull out, it's done.

 

[K1052]

Unless weather underground is insane, LA has gotten less than a quarter inch of rain since last spring. Becoming increasingly hostile? That's like living on fucking mars, man. Pull out, it's done.

This same exact thing could quite easily happen out in TX hill country where a shitload of development is happening.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

This same exact thing could quite easily happen out in TX hill country where a shitload of development is happening.

Yeah, that's also a terrible idea. There's a lot of fucking around going on right now and everyone seems to think the find out won't happen.

 

[IronWing]

This same exact thing could quite easily happen out in TX hill country where a shitload of development is happening.

The catch phrase here in Arizona is, "build like California, burn like California" because bozos keep building tree houses in canyons and at the tops of slopes.

 

[hal2kilo]

The catch phrase here in Arizona is, "build like California, burn like California" because bozos keep building tree houses in canyons and at the tops of slopes.

Hopefully, the insurance industry will make these people start facing reality. There are places in eastern Washington where you can't get fire insurance anymore.

 

[MrSquished]

Nuts. And of course Elon chimes in as the expert that all this would easily be avoided except for California regulations.

 

[feralkid]

Irrigating the Wilderness might be the solution. At least a band along the perimeter of cities. Not an easy solution because of Water alone. Shading is also a possibility from things in Space to White Sheets. None would be cheap, some could be disastrous.

What; raking isn't an option anymore?

 

[NutBucket]

Unless weather underground is insane, LA has gotten less than a quarter inch of rain since last spring. Becoming increasingly hostile? That's like living on fucking mars, man. Pull out, it's done.

That's correct. Yet the northern part of the state is at or above average. Things vary from year to year. Been like that for decades. To your point, usually January is not a dangerous time for fires.

 

[soulcougher73]

Well if they would just rake the underbrush everything would be fine...

 

[Brainonska511]

The solution is really easy: don't build in environments that wildfires not only regularly occur, but are required for natural ecosystems.

Sounds like you want everyone to live in a pod. /Redsquirrel

But yes, the solution is to abandon sprawl into wildfire territory, hardening existing properties (eg, landscaping requirements), and do more infill housing to accommodate population growth.

 

[Brainonska511]

The catch phrase here in Arizona is, "build like California, burn like California" because bozos keep building tree houses in canyons and at the tops of slopes.

When demand for housing is high and all that is legally allowed is sprawl, sprawl is what will sadly be built.

 

[K1052]

Sounds like you want everyone to live in a pod. /Redsquirrel

But yes, the solution is to abandon sprawl into wildfire territory, hardening existing properties (eg, landscaping requirements), and do more infill housing to accommodate population growth.

I would also suggest not building stuff almost entirely out of flammable materials (wood). Especially multiunit apartment projects that are stick over podium.

 

[Brainonska511]

I would also suggest not building stuff almost entirely out of flammable materials (wood). Especially multiunit apartment projects that are stick over podium.

That's fair. But mass timber could be a good choice, since it doesn't burn like light wood framed construction.