California to become first U.S. state mandating solar on new homes

[UglyCasanova]

https://www.ocregister.com/2018/05/...first-u-s-state-mandating-solar-on-new-homes/

I’m not against the idea necessarily, with new development comes new power demands so makes sense in that regard, but damn:

The new energy standards add about $25,000 to $30,000 to the construction costs compared with homes built to the 2006 code, said C.R. Herro, Meritage’s vice president of environmental affairs. Solar accounts for about $14,000 to $16,000 of that cost, with increased insulation and more efficient windows, appliances, lighting and heating accounting for another $10,000 to $15,000.

That will have significant impact on development. That’s a fifth of a house around here.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Good thing it's not a the average home price is California.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Do high home prices help the affordability of it? Seems that just makes an already expensive thing that much more expensive.

 

[sandorski]

Do high home prices help the affordability of it? Seems that just makes an already expensive thing that much more expensive.

yes

 

[UglyCasanova]

High home prices helps the affordability of someone who wants to build a home... ok

 

[JSt0rm]

They help the affordability of putting solar panels on. Retard. How about you worry about whatever shithole state u live in and let us worry about what the 6th largest economy in the world does.

 

[sandorski]

High home prices helps the affordability of someone who wants to build a home... ok

Of course it does. Just the same way a Higher Tax rate is more affordable to people who make more income.

edit: Also consider that solar panels and the other mandated features will save the home owner energy costs.

 

[ch33zw1z]

High home prices helps the affordability of someone who wants to build a home... ok

Why you mad that California mandates 30k extra on new builds, when the average home is 400+k. In the OP, you compared to housing prices in your area and said it's 1/5th of that. Seems steep to you and I, but not to Californians who can afford to buy new homes, when they're just as likely to add the solar themselves after the purchase.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

They help the affordability of putting solar panels on. Retard. How about you worry about whatever shithole state u live in and let us worry about what the 6th largest economy in the world does.

Fifth largest. CA just passed the UK

 

[JSt0rm]

We just keep winning. Casaretard what dumb state do u live in?

 

[UglyCasanova]

They help the affordability of putting solar panels on.

How does that math work.

 

[brycejones]

How does that math work.

Lower utilities.....m.m

 

[JSt0rm]

You won’t put 30k in solar on your West Virginia trailer home. But you would easily do it on your 800k 1400. Sq door Burbank home.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Why you mad that California mandates 30k extra on new builds, when the average home is 400+k. In the OP, you compared to housing prices in your area and said it's 1/5th of that. Seems steep to you and I, but not to Californians who can afford to buy new homes, when they're just as likely to add the solar themselves after the purchase.

I mean you’ve made the case that home ownership in CA is for the wealthy but I don’t know how that makes this more affordable other than the wealthy have more money...?

 

[JSt0rm]

I mean you’ve made the case that home ownership in CA is for the wealthy but I don’t know how that makes this more affordable other than the wealthy have more money...?

What you don’t understand is only alarming to you.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Lower utilities.....m.m

That’s true but the arguement is that high home prices make putting $30k in upgrades more affordable. I don’t see how it does.

 

[pcgeek11]

They help the affordability of putting solar panels on. Retard. How about you worry about whatever shithole state u live in and let us worry about what the 6th largest economy in the world does.

Somebody got triggered.

LOL

 

[UglyCasanova]

What you don’t understand is only alarming to you.

So explain it. How does a high cost make an additional cost more affordable?

 

[JSt0rm]

Somebody got triggered.

LOL

Owned

 

[JSt0rm]

So explain it. How does a high cost make an additional cost more affordable?

I’m not going to explain percentages to a retar

 

[UglyCasanova]

So no answer other than name calling. You’re right, you sure owned me.

 

[JSt0rm]

You owned yourself dummy.

 

[Zorba]

I'd really like to see states push energy efficiency down to older homes. First, by killing historical district requirements that ban energy efficiency, like double pane windows, etc. I know it is easier on the new side, but older homes waste so much more energy.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I mean you’ve made the case that home ownership in CA is for the wealthy but I don’t know how that makes this more affordable other than the wealthy have more money...?

I dont think you know what wealthy means. Wealthy in our country aren't buying the average home priced domicile in CA, and solar on the roof is money they wipe their butts with.

 

[UglyCasanova]

You owned yourself dummy.

Your arguement is percentages and that I’m retarded, I'm assuming that means that 30k on an 800k house is a smaller percent than 30k on a 150k house. I mean yes, I agree. But that doesn’t equat to affordability.

If I make 60k a year and want to build a house it doesn’t matter what the home price is, this just cost my half my annual income. I don’t think well shit I’m already spending 400k what’s another 30. It still raises the initial cost, inhave to borrow more money and it may price me into a more expensive mortgage product. Trying to understand your logic here.