California to become a Red State, Blue Folk cannot afford to live there anymore 11-18-2004

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
You have it all wrong. The red states are the poor states and the blue states are the rich ones.

It all depends on your definition of "rich."

Yes. If you think wealth is measured by the amount of tacky commemorative plates and Nascar bumper stickers than the red states are where it's at.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Originally posted by: Vic
Most of the wealthiest areas of California already vote Democrat

fixed

Explain...

Well, im sure there are more, but for at least 1 example....SD county is fairly wealthy yet has a repub majority.

Here's the map of votes by county - Link

Here's per capita income by county (Excel format) - Link

Only 7 of the top 20 counties in terms of per capita income voted for Bush.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
You have it all wrong. The red states are the poor states and the blue states are the rich ones.

It all depends on your definition of "rich."

Yes. If you think wealth is measured by the amount of tacky commemorative plates and Nascar bumper stickers than the red states are where it's at.

And if smarmy commentary by those looking down their nose at others pads your pocketbook, then blue is where you need to be.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Good! Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out of California!

Seriously though, the coast of CA has always been very liberal, while the inland portions of the state are quite conservative. Follows my theory that the farther away from salt water you get the more conservative you generally are.

What about Salt Lake!

Exception to the rule! Perhaps I should revise my theory from "salt water" to "ocean water."

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Good! Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out of California!

Seriously though, the coast of CA has always been very liberal, while the inland portions of the state are quite conservative. Follows my theory that the farther away from salt water you get the more conservative you generally are.

What about Salt Lake!

Exception to the rule! Perhaps I should revise my theory from "salt water" to "ocean water."

Don't forget that every state between Florida and Virginia, inclusive, touches the ocean...as does Alaska

 

[imported_Michelle]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Your post suggests blue folk are not wealthy. In California, as elsewhere, there are plenty of wealthy Democrats. The San Francisco housing market does not have a lot of Republicans but the housing costs are enormous. Unless I'm missing something from your OP...

Not nearly as many "Wealthy Dems" as there are "Wealthy Religious Radical Right Fearless Liar Lemmings".

Well we may not have as much money, but at least us Dems are more educated.

Really? Intelligence, education, common sense, mental stability, and self esteem are exactly what some of you democrats are lacking. I have to completely disagree with your statement. Here is a list of organizations, individuals, ideas, beliefs, behavior, and thoughts of the ?more educated? Democrats:

1. Hollywood
2. Convicts
3. Welfare receiptants
4. Homeless educated
5. Drug users that cannot receive financial aid for college
6. Want to understand Bin Laden
7. Break in and steal office equipment from Republicans
8. Try to shoot Republicans
9. Try to run over Katherine Harris with a vehicle
10. Can't punch a ballot properly
11. Can't find their own precinct
12. Have to be forced to vote in the first place
13. Want lighter sentences for the poor criminals
14. Actually believe they can negotiate with terrorists even though they can?t with Repubs
15. Can't forge documents without getting caught
16. Pacifists
17. Can't pick a decent candidate to beat "dumb" Bush
18. Can't discuss issues without insulting someone
19. Have to seek counseling because Kerry lost
20. Show their own racism by making derogatory remarks about conservative minorities 21. Kill their babies because using protection is too difficult but against death penalty for murders
22. Still haven?t realized that "the rich" are the ones that pay the majority of taxes
23. Haven't realized that big business actually employs Americans
24. Claim to be the party of free speech but spend most of their time trying to shut down opposition
25. Want the blessing of a corrupt organization before we can defend ourselves
26. Obviously didn't read the 911 Commission Report in its entirety
27. Actually believe that the majority of Bush voters, the majority of America, are religious or bible thumpers
28. Believe Cuba is a better place
29. Couldn't come up with a health care plan on their watch
30. Couldn't help the gay community on their watch; and,
31. Proud that voting numbers were up for inmates.


Here are a few quotes from this liberal but educated bunch!

?Two states, Vermont and Maine, allow felons to vote even while serving their sentences. This year, voting numbers are up among the inmates:

"There's almost a childlike excitement here," said Kirk Wool, 44, one of the Vermonters in Kentucky, who is serving 29 to 73 years for a sexual assault conviction, and said he "hadn't begun voting until actually after my incarceration."

But now Mr. Wool, inmate No. 263524, says he feels so empowered by voting that "if I had chosen politics instead of crime, call it arrogance, but I believe with my ability to touch people, my ability to speak, I believe I very well could have been governor of the state of Vermont."

Sexual assault conviction? Perhaps his ability to ?touch? people has already started. More:

?Voting rights can also have a positive impact on the prisoners' self-esteem:

And the dignity of being allowed to vote means a lot, Mr. Wool said. "When I register for my absentee ballot, I get a slew of brochures," he said. "You see yourself in this little cell and yet these people with all this power and freedom are reaching out to you, too. It gives me hope, it really does."

Isn?t that sweet! More:

?As many as one of every seven black men in Atlanta who have been convicted of a felony, and one of every four in Providence, R.I., cannot vote in this year's election, according to a pair of studies released yesterday. The studies, the first to look at felon disenfranchisement laws' effect on voting in individual cities, add to a growing body of evidence that those laws have a disproportionate effect on African-Americans because the percentage of black men with felony convictions is much larger than their share of the general population. The study in Atlanta concluded that two-thirds of the gap in voter registration between black males and other ethnic and gender groups was attributable to Georgia's felon disenfranchisement law.?

?Interest in the effect of felon disenfranchisement laws has increased since the presidential election of 2000, when George W. Bush won Florida by only 537 votes; an estimated 600,000 people in the state, most black, were barred from voting because of felony convictions.?

I?m assuming the people barred from voting were the educated Gore voters!

?We've talked often about the felon vote, the hispanic vote, the female vote....now it's time to campaign for the homeless vote.

If you run into any homeless people, make sure they know that the Constitution allows citizens to vote even if they don't own property or have a permanent address. The temporary address of a soup kitchen or homeless shelter is just fine.

Analysts say the homeless favor Kerry. The homeless believe he is more interested in their issues. So let's get them out there. One person, one vote-- rich, poor, male, female, minority or homeless.?

The homeless need to be told they can vote even if they don?t have an address, and it?s good to
know that they were educated enough in the soup kitchen or homeless shelter to know that Kerry
is more interested in their issues.

?Say hello to Bush v. Choice, a site dedicated to getting pro-choice voters educated, registered, and ready to defeat Bush and elect John Kerry in November. It is a project of NARAL Pro Choice America.?

Oh, they have to get pro-choice voters educated?

?A Critical Voting Group: Single Women

TomPaine.com today has an interesting article by political psychologist Martha Burk about how important the "Sex and the City" crowd vote will be this fall--single women voters.?

More educated crowd, huh?


?Will Osama 'Rock the Vote'?

Writing in the San Francisco Chronicle, John Arguilla, a professor of defense analysis at the United States Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, makes the case that Osama bin Laden can determinethe outcome of the 2004 election.

It's been mentioned by a few, including us, that if Bush pulls Osama out of a hat shortly before election day, it could be a problem for the Dems. Arguilla looks at it from the other side -- what if there's another big attack before election day? Using several examples from Abe Lincoln to LBJ, Arguilla says:
If, by the November election, the al Qaeda mastermind is able to mount another large terrorist attack inside the United States, bin Laden will show that Iraq has been a fatal distraction from the more pressing business of ripping apart his network. And George Bush will lose his job. Such are the electoral fortunes of war.

...The main point is, if bin Laden has the capability to launch an attack on America this year, he will. It must be an irresistible temptation to know that, from his remote cave, he could possibly exert a decisive influence on the political succession in the United States.?

Oh my! The intelligent Dems didn?t want us to catch Osama BEFORE the election! No concern about Americans dying at all. Amazing.

?Eminem Anti-War, Anti-Bush Video Out

Eminem's powerful new anti-war, anti-Bush video is out. It probably won't air on MTV, but here are direct links where you can view it:
? Windows Media Player
? Real Player
? Quicktime
? Another Quicktime site.?


Another educated Bush hater. Doesn?t matter that he sings about killing ?faggots.?

?Black Leaders Reject Lott Apology

Black leaders in Congress have rejected the apology of Republican Senator Trent Lott.?

Big surprise there. I?ll go ahead and leave you with some quotes from the ?educated? dems.

"Clarence Thomas is the chief house slave, but he should be fired because he can't do his job -- he can't keep us down," Hopkins said. "He's the house slave appointed to keep the field slaves and the yard slaves down, but he can't do it. It just doesn't work."

"When white folks can?t defeat you, they?ll always find some Negro, some boot-licking, butt-licking, bamboozled, half-baked, half-fried, sissified, punkified, pasteurized, homogenized N-gger that they can trot out in front of you."

"There is a right-wing conspiracy," said Bond, " . . . an interlocking network of funders, groups, and activists, who coordinate their methods and their message. . . . They are . . . the movement behind vouchers, the legal assault on affirmative action and other remedies for discrimination, attempts to reapportion us [blacks] out of office, and attacks on equity everywhere. They?ve had a collection of black hustlers and hucksters on their payrolls for more than twenty years, promoting them as the new generation of black leaders. They can?t deal with the leaders we choose for ourselves, so they manufacture, promote, and hire new ones. Like ventriloquists? dummies, [these blacks] speak in their puppet-master?s voice."

 

[LunarRay]

So what's your point...

 

[Steeplerot]

Funny rents are plummeting here now that the yuppie dot-comers are leaving in droves, taking their SUVs back to the suburbs and leaving the city to city folk.
"In case of earthquake go home now!" -An old sign I used to see on Market Street.

 

[randym431]

Didnt stats, from the election, show higher income voted Kerry, lower for Bush?
Would explain those RED/BLUE states/locations. Surely more weathy live in Ca, a blue state...

I lived in San Diego for 13 years, lucky to have lived the high life! It is strange, like the melting pot of the rich. Your at a stop light. One guy (who works 3 jobs to get by) is sitting in an older, hardly running car. A young punk, in a car costing $50,000+ pulls up beside. The first guy has to wonder "what an I doing wrong"? He doesnt realize, its the melting pot stupid!

A Gay couple I knew there, in Stockton, and retired in their 60's, just sold their home last month for $350,000. They moved here to iOwa, bought a huge classic victorian style home for $115,000 in a great location. And still have some $200,000 left over. But then again, they havent seen Winter here...yet (hehehe).

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Good! Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out of California!

Seriously though, the coast of CA has always been very liberal, while the inland portions of the state are quite conservative. Follows my theory that the farther away from salt water you get the more conservative you generally are.

That Theory doesn't work here. Surrounded by salt water here.

It's more like the further away from City Churches the more radically Religious folks get.

 

[gsaldivar]

Good.