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eflat

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Lots of good information, thanks. I do not want to travel too far or go to a CSU. I have to come home every few weeks for doctor appointments and stuff and not to mention play with my awesome little music studio I have at home. I just hate driving and 1 1/2 both ways every week or two seems like a lot.

I know Santa Cruz is kind of hippie school but I'm pretty cool with that. I prefer hippies to assholes, anyhow. I wonder which has better looking girls. That would make for a good tie breaker.
 

magomago

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Originally posted by: dr150
Davis and Santa Cruz are both great schools.

I'd say Davis is harder to get better grades, b/c Davis has some reeeallly smart/competitive students (LOTS!). Grades run on bell curves, so your GPA will be lower at Davis (unless you're some nerd hot shot).

Since your GPA SHOULD be higher at Santa Cruz, I'd go there so I'm more competitive for grad school applications. It makes a difference. The reps don't matter (unless you go to Cal).

Plus, the fact that Santa Cruz is BEAUTIFUL, more laid back, better parties, it's a no brainer.

You should also check out UC Santa Barbara--just like Santa Cruz but warmer!

With the exception of UC Riverside, Merced, Irvine (all ugly/boring) I'd recommend ANY UC.

Whatever you do, get good grades and take advantage of your resources.....college is a platform that will set you up for the next decade. Also, major in a skill set that employers value (like engineering/science/business). Unless you plan on a PHD or go to law/MBA school on the back of a SOFT degree (i.e. History/Spanish), you'll have a MUCH leaner salary in potential misery/frazzleness.

Had I a 2nd chance, I would have manned up and worked on an engineering degree instead of partying my way on the easier soft degree. It all worked out for me, but the path is a lot tougher!

This is a horrible post. It really is.

Every UC has some reeeeallly smart and competitive students. I would NOT hesitate to say that the top students at every UC campus are on the same level. These are students who will - despite their professors and classes - study on their own and push to learn no matter what.

You can't say that everything runs on a bell curve. Each own professor institutes their own method. My lower division classes generally followed a bell curve - but because the grades on tests were low it helped to normalize everyone. I know people who are Bio majors and bell curves hurt them because everyone tries hard to score high. Other professors have their own personal systems - some are required to follow the grading in a given department. My control systems professor did not even follow a bell curve because he stated that the theory is not well supported.

He should - realistically - go where he would feel more comfortable with.

And your comments are absolutely stupid on which UC to go to.
I don't to Riverside, but to deny that it has good academics is retarded. I will agree that the area is not as desirable, but the campus is far from "ugly". Boring - maybe. Only because it takes time to get to any places where things go on from Riverside, but even then the longest drive probably won't top 2 hours...more like 1 hour.

Merced was JUST BUILT! What do you want out of it? The type of culture that other campuses have taken fifty years to build!

And your final comment on Irvine is totally unfounded. It is a very beautiful leafy campus with plenty of trees. Construction, as with most UCs, is always going on. It has a wonderful Barclay theater where a lot of performances occur. Right next to the school is the massive San Joaquin reserve for those who are more "nature founded" as well as its own Arboretum. Within 15 minutes of campus is the beach, great places to shop like Southcoast. Many places are easily and quickly accessible from Irvine. SD is an hour away if you take the 5 south. LA isn't very far either - generally most the LA area is easily within an hour of Irvine.. And the entire Long Beach/Huntington Beach area is also just 15 minutes away and is great for those who love to surf.
You have to be unfamiliar to with the area to say that the campus is boring. True, UCI gave up a football team for the Science Library - which is the largest science lib in California (and I believe the 2nd largest west of the mississippi) and is easily worth it.
and the only valid point you may bring up is that all the places around the campus require driving to get to. Well guess what? This is southern California - everywhere has to drive to really get places. Even UCSD is not immune to this.
 

WildHorse

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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
I was just in Santa Cruz and you will not be disappointed with the female population...

Actually Santa Cruz is the lesbian capital of the western USA.

Santa Cruz is to lezzies what Palm Springs is to the homo guys.

Some of the women are aggressive about it in Santa Cruz, and go out of their way to make a spalsh and try to be provocatively in-your-face about it. It's a thing there.

As for your choice between schools, it's always been my perception that UCSC is academically the bottom of all the UC campuses. Maybe it's coming up in reputation since they got rid of their famous "no grades" policy.

UCD seems like the better school based on reputation. It'd be a lot more fun living around Santa Cruz or back up in the tall redwood trees behind it in Scott's Valley. Santa Cruz is dirty, scruffy, fairly crowded, full of ultra-lefties who've moved in from elsewhere, on the cold-surf ocean with great whites and otters, Steamer's Lane, The Hook, Mitchell's Cove, PLeasure Point. Davis is straight, boring, conventional, probably cheaper to live in, the better school, hotter'n hell whenever I've been there, nearer the High Sierra mountains which are one of the true paradises on earth.

So probably cost and academics favor UCD, exciting beautiful environment favors UCSC. You just have to call it based on your priorities.

 

dudeman007

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Originally posted by: Oiprocs
What about Cal Poly San Luis Obispo?

If you have to choose between those two, other people are right about the academia. If grad school is something you want to do, go to Davis. If you aren't planning on it, or don't plan on going until you have a few years of work experience, then go to Santa Cruz.

I'd go to Santa Cruz, but I'm an engineering major, so a job is waiting for me no matter where I go.

Bingo. I'm currently at Cal Poly and I'm loving it. The education is great and the location is ever better. I chose this school over UC Davis, UC Santa Barbara, and UCLA because of the great feel here and awesome educational opportunities.
 

kalster

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dont they have that unlimited sushi place in davis, i like davis, its a nice college town
 
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Originally posted by: CitizenDoug
Lots of good information, thanks. I do not want to travel too far or go to a CSU. I have to come home every few weeks for doctor appointments and stuff and not to mention play with my awesome little music studio I have at home. I just hate driving and 1 1/2 both ways every week or two seems like a lot.

I know Santa Cruz is kind of hippie school but I'm pretty cool with that. I prefer hippies to assholes, anyhow. I wonder which has better looking girls. That would make for a good tie breaker.

Dude, honestly, did you not know the girl to guy population is skewed? It's something like 6 girls to 4 guys, and when it gets hot... Oh man. So many cute girls out :) It's pretty sweet, man, I'm not gonna lie.
 

miniMUNCH

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It's history and spanish y'all... is there something about the academic rating that will make the history and spanish at Davis that much better than Santa Cruz... I highly doubt it.

I'd say UC Santa Cruz and replace either history or spanish with a minor in business or something else a little more marketable unless you plan on going to law school.
 

geckojohn

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Do you like the beach and surfing ? If that's a priority, then I'd definately recommend UCSC.

If not, then I'd go with UC Davis. With Davis, you are close to Sacramento, San Francisco and about an hours drive from South Lake Tahoe. Davis is a fun college town with lots of stuff to do there. Plus from an academic standpoint, might be better.
 

conehead433

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Originally posted by: dudeman007
Originally posted by: Oiprocs
What about Cal Poly San Luis Obispo?

If you have to choose between those two, other people are right about the academia. If grad school is something you want to do, go to Davis. If you aren't planning on it, or don't plan on going until you have a few years of work experience, then go to Santa Cruz.

I'd go to Santa Cruz, but I'm an engineering major, so a job is waiting for me no matter where I go.

Bingo. I'm currently at Cal Poly and I'm loving it. The education is great and the location is ever better. I chose this school over UC Davis, UC Santa Barbara, and UCLA because of the great feel here and awesome educational opportunities.

Besides, Pismo Beach is the best beach on the entire west coast, period.
 

WildHorse

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Pismo Beach is the best beach on the entire west coast, period. conehead433

Windy choppy Pismo with yahoos buzzing around in beach buggies is not even close. (No offense).

I do like horseback riding on the beach there a couple of times a year out of the Silver Spur / Pacific Dunes Riding Stables in Oceano by Pismo. Ben doin' that for years.

Nominations for best beach on the entire west coast:
Surfing: Rincon when it's firing during coldest winter!
Body surfing & Swimming: anywhere warm-water. from Newport south to La Jolla
Hotties: Huntington
Scenic: Big sur & upper norcal
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: BoomerD
What about UC Berkely? From Martinez it's only an easy 30 minute drive...

http://www.berkeley.edu/academics/departments/a.html

Obviously, he cant get in.

Davis or SC? Both are good UC schools. Which ever feels "right" is where you should go.

If I was hiring anyone, and they went to UC Berkeley, I would shred their resume. So many idiots go there.
 

Skeeedunt

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I was a computer engineering major at UCD, and I don't think I ever had a class that graded on a true bell curve.

It's a pretty nice campus and a decent town, but it can feel slightly middle-of-nowhere depending on where you're coming from. I think it used to be a lot more expensive to live off campus in SC, but Davis prices have gone up a lot since I compared them, so that may be different now. SC obviously has better scenery and weather.

As a few others have said, they're both pretty good, and I'd say go with whichever feels like the best fit. If you want to go to grad school or land a job with a Fortune 500 right out of college, a better school reputation might help, otherwise it doesn't seem to be that huge of a deal (at least not in the long term). And in terms of actual education, it usually has way more to do with how much you put into than "how good of a school" it is.
 

ed21x

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: BoomerD
What about UC Berkely? From Martinez it's only an easy 30 minute drive...

http://www.berkeley.edu/academics/departments/a.html

Obviously, he cant get in.

Davis or SC? Both are good UC schools. Which ever feels "right" is where you should go.

If I was hiring anyone, and they went to UC Berkeley, I would shred their resume. So many idiots go there.

and by idiots, you mean students from one of the most selective schools around and a faculty to back up the highest number of top ranked prgrams out of any school in the nation?
 
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Originally posted by: CitizenDoug
Lots of good information, thanks. I do not want to travel too far or go to a CSU.

That's funny. A CSU will give you just as good an education except you'll actually be interacting with your processors instead of their TAs. And you'll save enough money that you'll be in a better financial place upon graduation. Since they're less competitive you'll probably even have more time for other things you enjoy in life.

If you think people are going to hire you based on what schoool you went to, then you're living in a bad movie from the early 80's.
 

ed21x

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Originally posted by: conehead433
Originally posted by: dudeman007
Originally posted by: Oiprocs
What about Cal Poly San Luis Obispo?

If you have to choose between those two, other people are right about the academia. If grad school is something you want to do, go to Davis. If you aren't planning on it, or don't plan on going until you have a few years of work experience, then go to Santa Cruz.

I'd go to Santa Cruz, but I'm an engineering major, so a job is waiting for me no matter where I go.

Bingo. I'm currently at Cal Poly and I'm loving it. The education is great and the location is ever better. I chose this school over UC Davis, UC Santa Barbara, and UCLA because of the great feel here and awesome educational opportunities.

Besides, Pismo Beach is the best beach on the entire west coast, period.

Cal Poly SLO is an amazing campus nestled in a really cozy college town. I absolutely love it. :)
 

aplefka

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My sister just graduated from UCSC. Coming from someone who has grown up in Sacramento and now lives in SoCal I'd say go with Santa Cruz. It's such an awesome place. The campus is beautiful too. But I'm biased since I grew up 30 mins away from Davis. It's just not a very happening place.
 
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1. University of California?Berkeley *
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32. Colorado School of Mines 11 *
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Top 55 PUBLIC schools, as rated by US NEWS. I believe EVERY UC campus made the list, with the exception of fledgling Merced, which I'm sure in due time will also be there. UC Hastings (San Francisco) and UC San Francisco were omitted because there is the general university list, and both the aforementioned schools are professional school only (law and medicine, respectively).

Also note the absence of Cal States on the list. I'm not saying that there argent some areas where some Cal States excel in, but for the most part, I take the rankings as pretty good normative indicators of the quality of education you are getting.
 

compuwiz1

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Go to Santa Cruz. Most of the retailers around here can't stand Davisites.
 

eflat

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Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
It's history and spanish y'all... is there something about the academic rating that will make the history and spanish at Davis that much better than Santa Cruz... I highly doubt it.

I'd say UC Santa Cruz and replace either history or spanish with a minor in business or something else a little more marketable unless you plan on going to law school.

I'm planning on teaching, so they are all fine majors.

The crazy part in me wants to major in music composition too and I'll probably drop history for it. I'm just not convinced that I'm good enough to get any work yet.

Anyways I think Santa Cruz wins. Sounds more laid back and I love the beach. Yeah Davis is better academically but I'm going to grad school anyways and with good grades and test scores I do not think it is that important.
 

Apathetic

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How about you go visit each campus and talk with some professors in the history and spanish departments and see which ones you prefer?

Dave