California Democrats Look To Ban All Semi-Auto Rifles W/ Magazines

[jpeyton]

Say goodbye to the bullet-button. Any semi-auto rifle that accepts a detachable magazine is on the chopping block. It doesn't matter if the magazine is 30 rounds or 5 rounds.

http://news.yahoo.com/calif-dems-push-wide-ranging-182553505.html

 

[chucky2]

Sweet! Go Dems!

 

[desura]

It's not about the tool, it's about the outdoor experience.

Why so angry? They're not limiting hunting or fishing.

 

[jpeyton]

Why so angry? They're not limiting hunting or fishing.

I don't hunt or fish, but what does that have to do with this bill?

 

[davmat787]

Let's face it, CA democrats won't rest until this is the only legal gun remaining, and all else is banned:

 

[irishScott]

I'm finding it extremely ironic that the vast majority of new gun legislation is taking place in states that already had strict gun control.

 

[desura]

I don't hunt or fish, but what does that have to do with this bill?

Exactly. Why are non-sportsmen so obsessed with these weapons?

 

[irishScott]

Exactly. Why are non-sportsmen so obsessed with these weapons?

Why do you care? They're not shooting anyone.

 

[desura]

Why do you care? They're not shooting anyone.

Actually, they are. "Assault rifles" are used in 50% of mass shootings.

 

[irishScott]

Actually, they are. "Assault rifles" are used in 50% of mass shootings.

You don't say. How many mass shootings took place in California last year?

 

[Phanuel]

Actually, they are. "Assault rifles" are used in 50% of mass shootings.

Actually, "Assault rifles" are used in 0% of mass shootings, and that's not a made up % either.

Semi-automatic rifles maybe have been used in several though.

Pray tell though, how many gun related homicides a year are committed and what % of them are perpetrated by rifles vs pistols?

 

[desura]

You don't say. How many mass shootings took place in California last year?

It helps having strict gun control, doesn't it?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/04/mass-shootings-rampages-rising-data

 

[desura]

Actually, "Assault rifles" are used in 0% of mass shootings, and that's not a made up % either.

Semi-automatic rifles maybe have been used in several though.

Pray tell though, how many gun related homicides a year are committed and what % of them are perpetrated by rifles vs pistols?

I only really care about random shootings of random strangers. I don't care if two rival drug dealers shoot each other up, or some guy decides to kill himself with his guns. I only care when some psycho shoots people who have done nothing to him.

Again,

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/04/mass-shootings-rampages-rising-data

 

[irishScott]

It helps having strict gun control, doesn't it?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/04/mass-shootings-rampages-rising-data

Alright, that's 21 nutjobs who went on killing sprees last year; in the entire country, not just California. Now how many people own semi-automatic rifles that accept detachable magazines?

 

[desura]

Alright, that's 21 nutjobs who went on killing sprees last year; in the entire country, not just California. Now how many people own semi-automatic rifles that accept detachable magazines?

How many fishing rods have killed random people in public areas?

 

[irishScott]

How many fishing rods have killed random people in public areas?

Answer my question. Not that I expect you to, you can't (truthfully) without completely invalidating your argument.

Here's a hint, most semi-automatic rifles nowadays, and that's a genre that goes FAR beyond the scary black rifles, use magazines. This legislation would actually stand a good chance of being defeated by the Supreme Court as Heller protects guns that "are in common use", and you don't get much more common than a Ruger 10-22, among others.

 

[Darwin333]

It's not about the tool, it's about the outdoor experience.

Why so angry? They're not limiting hunting or fishing.

Who the fuck said that?

I sometimes enjoy building stuff but personally I'll keep my cordless drill, rotary tools, and various other power tools versus going after the old fashioned "experience".

 

[Phanuel]

I only really care about random shootings of random strangers. I don't care if two rival drug dealers shoot each other up, or some guy decides to kill himself with his guns. I only care when some psycho shoots people who have done nothing to him.

Again,

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/04/mass-shootings-rampages-rising-data

Awesome. Then why don't we arm everyone like the old wild west? You'd quite literally have no problem with this. Don't even try to say you would, you just admitted to not caring about two people with guns shooting at each other.

 

[desura]

Who the fuck said that?

I sometimes enjoy building stuff but personally I'll keep my cordless drill, rotary tools, and various other power tools versus going after the old fashioned "experience".

Have any of those tools ever been used to slaughter a room full of 1st graders?

 

[Darwin333]

How many fishing rods have killed random people in public areas?

Not nearly as many as those unnecessarily powerful sports cars I would bet.

 

[irishScott]

Have any of those tools ever been used to slaughter a room full of 1st graders?

Neither have any of my guns, therefore my ownership of them isn't a problem. I'm glad we agree on that rational.

 

[Agent11]

Answer my question. Not that I expect you to, you can't (truthfully) without completely invalidating your argument.

Here's a hint, most semi-automatic rifles nowadays, and that's a genre that goes FAR beyond the scary black rifles, use magazines. This legislation would actually stand a good chance of being defeated by the Supreme Court as Heller protects guns that "are in common use", and you don't get much more common than a Ruger 10-22, among others.

Yes. As sad as it is that they are pushing for this sort of legislation it is worse that they are doing so when anyone who isn't wearing blinders can see it is unconstitutional.

 

[Darwin333]

Have any of those tools ever been used to slaughter a room full of 1st graders?

They were probably instrumental in building the device that was used to slaughter those people in the Boston Marathon.

 

[Darwin333]

I only really care about random shootings of random strangers. I don't care if two rival drug dealers shoot each other up, or some guy decides to kill himself with his guns. I only care when some psycho shoots people who have done nothing to him.

Again,

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/04/mass-shootings-rampages-rising-data

And exactly how much better would you feel if said psycho used gasoline to trap a bunch of random kids who have done him nothing in their school while they burn to death instead of using an evil black gun?

Or are you seriously arguing that psychos will no longer do psycho shit if they don't have legal access to evil black rifles?

 

[Phanuel]

Yes. As sad as it is that they are pushing for this sort of legislation it is worse that they are doing so when anyone who isn't wearing blinders can see it is unconstitutional.

I live in CA and this is ridiculous.

I'm pretty much going to have to bury my toys and wait for this to go to the supreme court and hopefully get completely shot down. We really need a huge case to break all this insane bull regarding individual states and their ability to regulate firearms rights and codify a overall understanding that states cannot legislate restrictions and infringements upon this right.