California Congressman makes $220k off campaign loan

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Feb. 13 (Bloomberg) -- During a decade in Congress, California Representative Grace Napolitano has pocketed more than $200,000 of political contributions by charging as much as 18 percent interest on money she loaned to her own campaign.

The suburban Los Angeles Democrat made the $150,000 loan in 1998, when she was first elected to the U.S. House of Representatives. Through Dec. 31, her campaign committee has used donations to pay Napolitano $221,780 of interest while reducing the principal by just $64,727, a review of her Federal Election Commission filings shows.

As recently as June 2008, Napolitano held a fundraiser asking supporters and political action committees for money to pay down the 1998 debt. Napolitano, her spokesman and her campaign?s lawyers didn?t respond to requests for comment.

?I find this practice quite reprehensible,? said Craig Holman, government affairs lobbyist for Public Citizen, a Washington advocacy group. Interest payments from Napolitano?s campaign treasury have ?proven exorbitantly profitable,? he said. ?Candidates are not supposed to personally benefit from these campaign funds.?

The Federal Election Commission in 1999 ruled the loan and its 18 percent rate were allowed by U.S. election laws, after a complaint by Napolitano?s 1998 Democratic primary opponent. The commission agreed with Napolitano?s explanation that the interest charges were justified because Napolitano had to pay penalties for taking the money from a retirement account.

Lengthy Loan

Former FEC Chairman Scott Thomas, a Democrat, said that while interest charges are legal he?s never seen another case ?where someone has basically continued to generate interest income off a campaign loan this long.? Most candidates only seek repayment of the initial loan amount, Thomas said.

?This is unbelievable -- it really is extraordinary,? said Michael Toner, a former Republican member of the FEC who was general counsel for George W. Bush?s 2000 presidential campaign. Toner said he ?cannot recall a situation? where a candidate collected interest in sums that ?actually exceeded the original loan balance.?

For Napolitano, a 72-year-old grandmother of 14, the campaign IOU has been a profitable asset, far outperforming stocks since the loan started accruing interest in May 1998. Over the same period, an investment in the Standard & Poor?s 500 stocks, with reinvested dividends, would have lost more than 7 percent, according to Bloomberg data.

In the first five months of 2008, Napolitano?s campaign paid her almost $68,000 of interest, according to FEC records. An additional $15,227 of principal was paid last May.

Biggest Asset

The debt is the biggest asset listed in Napolitano?s financial-disclosure filings, which don?t include personal residences. A former Ford Motor Co. secretary, Napolitano withdrew $150,000 for the loan from an employee-stock retirement plan. Ford shares, which traded for about $45 in May 1998, closed yesterday at $1.79.

Napolitano gave the money to her campaign in March 1998 and began charging 18 percent interest on May 3, 1998, after the deadline passed for moving the funds into another retirement account without early withdrawal penalties, according to FEC records.

Napolitano cut the interest charge to 10 percent in July 2006. As of Dec. 31, the campaign owed $85,273 of principal and $5,549 of unpaid interest, according to FEC filings.

When the FEC investigated her opponent?s 1998 complaint about the loan, Napolitano?s lawyer, Diane Fishburn, said the 18 percent interest rate was ?not out of line with the rates on other unsecured loan transactions.? The FEC concluded that the interest rate, while ?high,? was allowable.

FEC Ruling

?It does not appear that the 18 percent interest rate for the $150,000 loan amounts to a conversion of campaign funds to the candidate?s personal use or that the $150,000 loan was made on commercially unreasonable terms,? the commission ruled.

Napolitano didn?t charge interest on an additional $70,000 of loans to her 1998 campaign. FEC records show that the campaign repaid at least $59,000 of the interest-free loans by August 1999. The interest-free loans aren?t listed on campaign filings after early 2000.

Last year, when Napolitano faced only token opposition for a sixth term, her campaign sought $500 from individuals and $1,500 from political action committees at a June 25 Washington fundraiser. The money was to go at least in part for ?1998 primary debt retirement,? according to her campaign Web site.

Napolitano is chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee?s water and power subcommittee and a member of the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee.

Political Contributions

From May 15 to Aug. 4, 2008, Napolitano?s FEC filing says she collected money from five political action committees that designated the funds for the 1998 primary. Contributors included PACs associated with Edison International, the owner of California?s largest electric utility; Parsons Corp., an engineering and construction company in Pasadena, California; and the American Road & Transportation Builders Association. Other donors included Fannie Mae and the National Community Pharmacists Association.

Edison spokeswoman Lauren Bartlett said in an e-mail that its PAC donates to debt retirement ?in rare cases.?

Lisa Camooso Miller, vice president of public affairs at the community pharmacists? group, said the association gave $1,500 to Napolitano for debt repayment and wrote a separate $1,000 check to be allocated at the lawmaker?s discretion. An FEC filing by Napolitano?s campaign earmarks the full $2,500 to the 1998 debt.

Dave Bauer, a spokesman for the road builders, said the group gave to the debt-reduction effort because ?we feel like supporting debt retirement is supporting the member of Congress.?

Fannie Mae spokesman Chuck Greener had no immediate comment. The mortgage-finance company closed its PAC after the federal government?s September takeover. Erin Kuhlman, corporate relations vice president for Parsons, declined comment.

Through year?s end, Napolitano had reported no payments for loan interest or principal since the June 25 fundraiser.

Napolitano won almost 82 percent of the vote in last year?s general election, where she was opposed by a third-party candidate who spent no money on the campaign.

A biography on Napolitano?s congressional Web site says she has five children, 14 grandchildren and a great-grandson. Napolitano was mayor of Norwalk, California, and a state assembly representative before her election to Congress.



Nice way to indirectly take bribes. Loan money then ensure it is never paid off, and you can continuously siphon interest to your own pockets from campaign donors. When is the change coming to Washington??
 

Slick5150

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Do you even read the shit you post on here?? Nowhere in there does it mention anything about bribes. She set up a scam to basically just live off of her campapign funds. It isn't bribery anymore so than anyone else that holds fundraisers and whatnot.. She was just then paying her mortgage off with the money rather than campaign ads, which is the highly questionable part of it.

But seriously. Learn to read. Its helpful when trying to make a point.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: Slick5150
Do you even read the shit you post on here?? Nowhere in there does it mention anything about bribes. She set up a scam to basically just live off of her campapign funds. It isn't bribery anymore so than anyone else that holds fundraisers and whatnot.. She was just then paying her mortgage off with the money rather than campaign ads, which is the highly questionable part of it.

But seriously. Learn to read. Its helpful when trying to make a point.

Right, attack Winnar but completely ignore another corrupt democrat. We should completely trust these criminals and this stimulus bill. I wonder how much they are making off it.
 

Firebot

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Slick5150
Do you even read the shit you post on here?? Nowhere in there does it mention anything about bribes. She set up a scam to basically just live off of her campapign funds. It isn't bribery anymore so than anyone else that holds fundraisers and whatnot.. She was just then paying her mortgage off with the money rather than campaign ads, which is the highly questionable part of it.

But seriously. Learn to read. Its helpful when trying to make a point.

Right, attack Winnar but completely ignore another corrupt democrat. We should completely trust these criminals and this stimulus bill. I wonder how much they are making off it.

Before I even opened up Winnar's thread and knowing California's politics, I knew it would be a Democrat at fault, because its the only articles a Republican partisan hack ever posts. I can't take posts from posters who never have an objective view seriously. There's just as many if not more corrupt Republicans, yet you will never ever see such a thread from Winnar, who was blaming Obama for the pending economic downfall before he was even in power.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: Firebot
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Slick5150
Do you even read the shit you post on here?? Nowhere in there does it mention anything about bribes. She set up a scam to basically just live off of her campapign funds. It isn't bribery anymore so than anyone else that holds fundraisers and whatnot.. She was just then paying her mortgage off with the money rather than campaign ads, which is the highly questionable part of it.

But seriously. Learn to read. Its helpful when trying to make a point.

Right, attack Winnar but completely ignore another corrupt democrat. We should completely trust these criminals and this stimulus bill. I wonder how much they are making off it.

Before I even opened up Winnar's thread and knowing California's politics, I knew it would be a Democrat at fault, because its the only articles a Republican partisan hack ever posts. I can't take posts from posters who never have an objective view seriously. There's just as many if not more corrupt Republicans, yet you will never ever see such a thread from Winnar, who was blaming Obama for the pending economic downfall before he was even in power.

You say that, but its democrat after democrat after democrat getting caught. You can use the 'they all do it' line but it certainly doesn't seem that way lately.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Slick5150
Do you even read the shit you post on here?? Nowhere in there does it mention anything about bribes. She set up a scam to basically just live off of her campapign funds. It isn't bribery anymore so than anyone else that holds fundraisers and whatnot.. She was just then paying her mortgage off with the money rather than campaign ads, which is the highly questionable part of it.

But seriously. Learn to read. Its helpful when trying to make a point.

Right, attack Winnar but completely ignore another corrupt democrat. We should completely trust these criminals and this stimulus bill. I wonder how much they are making off it.

did you even read his post?
 

Balt

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Slick5150
Do you even read the shit you post on here?? Nowhere in there does it mention anything about bribes. She set up a scam to basically just live off of her campapign funds. It isn't bribery anymore so than anyone else that holds fundraisers and whatnot.. She was just then paying her mortgage off with the money rather than campaign ads, which is the highly questionable part of it.

But seriously. Learn to read. Its helpful when trying to make a point.

Right, attack Winnar but completely ignore another corrupt democrat. We should completely trust these criminals and this stimulus bill. I wonder how much they are making off it.

Uh, he didn't ignore anything. He admitted it's a scam, and he's right.

It's not a bribe, it's an unethical loophole and it needs to be closed.
 

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On the brighter side, at least it's not the same Napolitano who is in charge of Homeland Security! At least the Napolitano mentioned in here is confined to CA.
 

Firebot

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Firebot
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Slick5150
Do you even read the shit you post on here?? Nowhere in there does it mention anything about bribes. She set up a scam to basically just live off of her campapign funds. It isn't bribery anymore so than anyone else that holds fundraisers and whatnot.. She was just then paying her mortgage off with the money rather than campaign ads, which is the highly questionable part of it.

But seriously. Learn to read. Its helpful when trying to make a point.

Right, attack Winnar but completely ignore another corrupt democrat. We should completely trust these criminals and this stimulus bill. I wonder how much they are making off it.

Before I even opened up Winnar's thread and knowing California's politics, I knew it would be a Democrat at fault, because its the only articles a Republican partisan hack ever posts. I can't take posts from posters who never have an objective view seriously. There's just as many if not more corrupt Republicans, yet you will never ever see such a thread from Winnar, who was blaming Obama for the pending economic downfall before he was even in power.

You say that, but its democrat after democrat after democrat getting caught. You can use the 'they all do it' line but it certainly doesn't seem that way lately.

It only looks like if democrats after democrats are being caught because you are looking for stories to assert your side as been the superior moral side. Democrats are more in the news lately because they have received a huge influx of power, and as such hold more seats. Kinda like saying republicans after republicans getting caught in sex scandals with prostitute rings is the norm, when we know that both sides have corrupt politicians.

I'm conservative btw.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: Firebot
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Firebot
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Slick5150
Do you even read the shit you post on here?? Nowhere in there does it mention anything about bribes. She set up a scam to basically just live off of her campapign funds. It isn't bribery anymore so than anyone else that holds fundraisers and whatnot.. She was just then paying her mortgage off with the money rather than campaign ads, which is the highly questionable part of it.

But seriously. Learn to read. Its helpful when trying to make a point.

Right, attack Winnar but completely ignore another corrupt democrat. We should completely trust these criminals and this stimulus bill. I wonder how much they are making off it.

Before I even opened up Winnar's thread and knowing California's politics, I knew it would be a Democrat at fault, because its the only articles a Republican partisan hack ever posts. I can't take posts from posters who never have an objective view seriously. There's just as many if not more corrupt Republicans, yet you will never ever see such a thread from Winnar, who was blaming Obama for the pending economic downfall before he was even in power.

You say that, but its democrat after democrat after democrat getting caught. You can use the 'they all do it' line but it certainly doesn't seem that way lately.

It only looks like if democrats after democrats are being caught because you are looking for stories to assert your side as been the superior moral side. Democrats are more in the news lately because they have received a huge influx of power, and as such hold more seats. Kinda like saying republicans after republicans getting caught in sex scandals with prostitute rings is the norm, when we know that both sides have corrupt politicians.

I'm conservative btw.

I'm not posting any stories.. I'm responding to others posting stories. Republicans like screwing people through sex, democrats like screwing people out of their money while telling the Republicans they aren't paying their fair share. DEMOCRATS aren't paying their fair share. Maybe we could pay for this stimulus by just taxing the democrats illegal earnings more. Sex scandals are different that pay to play and these other democrats screwing tax payers. Sex scandals don't hurt anyone, but Republicans are thrown out of office for them anyway. These scandals hurt the tax payer and yet democrats are not being held responsible for their criminal behavior.

Yet we should just 'trust them' to fix this economy. Trust them how? That they are going to write the bill so they all profit? Is there a single democrat out there thats not somehow screwing the American public out of their hard earned money?
 

AlienCraft

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Anyone who doesn't think that all politiicans are'nt feather bedding, self- serving stooges for Big BizNezz just isn't paying attention.

A New American Revolution will not be televised.
 

BoomerD

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I've always thought that the whole "Loaned his/her campaign money" was a scam to begin with. If they want the office, putting their own money into the campaign should NOT be a loan...it should be SOP.

Unfortunately, it happens on both sides of the aisle. This lady seems to have "played the game" pretty well...:roll: BUT, as long as it's not illegal, there's not much that can be done. I think it's highly unlikely that the politicians for either side will ever vote to outlaw such practices...it could affect THEM at some time.
 

Genx87

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As recently as June 2008, Napolitano held a fundraiser asking supporters and political action committees for money to pay down the 1998 debt. Napolitano, her spokesman and her campaign?s lawyers didn?t respond to requests for comment

That takes some balls. Hold a fundraiser to raise money to repay a debt to yourself.

With idiots like this at the helm it is no surprise they believe SS is long term viable.
 

Fern

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Not a terribly good article IMO. They needed a CPA to figure it out and write about it.

From the info given it's hard to determine if she's actually profited personally, and if so, by how much.

In 1998 she took out the money from her pension-type plan, so would have paid fed/state income tax and an early withdrawl penalty IIRC.

They should have added up how much money in the aggregate (interest and non-interest bearing loans) she paid in (to her campaign and in taxes & penalties etc). Then add up how she has persoanlly taken from her campaign - both principal and interest. If she's taken in more than she's paid out, she's illegally/unethically benefiting personally IMO.

Fern
 

chess9

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In the pantheon of evil doings by Congresswomen/men this must be at the bottom of almost anyone's list, except a Republican whiner.

I'd consider a vote for the bank bailout about 1 million times worse.

-Robert
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: chess9
In the pantheon of evil doings by Congresswomen/men this must be at the bottom of almost anyone's list, except a Republican whiner.

I'd consider a vote for the bank bailout about 1 million times worse.

-Robert

The bank bailout that Democrats voted for?
 

chess9

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: chess9
In the pantheon of evil doings by Congresswomen/men this must be at the bottom of almost anyone's list, except a Republican whiner.

I'd consider a vote for the bank bailout about 1 million times worse.

-Robert

The bank bailout that Democrats voted for?

Yes! And quite a few Republicans. Stupid stupid stupid.

-Robert